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By Shafee Ahmed Ko, TwoCircles.net
Chennai: In a neutral effort to probe the “Peace” controversial meet of Dr.Zakir Naik with his remarks to Yazeed, Prophet Muhammad (sal), Osama Bin Laden and, his concept of teaching Islamic principles teaching the Muslim students at his Islamic International School in Chennai in relation with people of the alien faiths (other than Muslims). This correspondent’s earnest and conscientious pains to contact the key spokespersons, during the “Peace Meet” in Chennai failed.
Nevertheless, in order to accomplish the news story of Dr.Zakir Naik’s controversies, finally this correspondent, after a constant knocks, was successful in meeting Mr.R.K.Noor Mohammad, a scholar from Madina University, an official of Islamic International School in Chennai which is run, conceived, and developed by Dr. Zakir Naik. The summarized conversation between this correspondent and Mr.Noor Muhammad is here:
Interview on 19 Jan 2010 (11.15 am to 12 noon)
Venue: Office of the correspondent: Islamic International School, Chennai.
Questions from the Correspondent : Dr.Zakir Naik is under controversy with regards to his statements on (1).Yazid, (2)Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and (3) Osama bin Laden, and (4) teaching the students of his Islamic International School, Chennai not to greet the people of non Muslim’s festivals. The request was proposed to elaborate one after one.
Answers (Mr.M.K.Noor Mohammed)
It’s good that I am meeting a journalist. Most of the Muslims are ignorant of journalism and our boys and girls must be trained in this field. Insha Allah.
1. Dr.Zakir Naik on Yazeed:
During a “Peace Meet” in Mumbai on November 2007, at the question answer session, a non Muslim desired a specific clarification on Yazid. While answering his question, in hurry Dr.Naik uttered “Raziallahu Anhu” instinctively by “slip of his tongue”. In the in the meantime he identified the error resulted due to inattention.
Nevertheless, Dr.Zakir Naik was quick to point out stating that,” I have read so in some books. I am ready give in writing that I won’t commit such faults. Will those people furnish a written assurance that they will not abuse companions of Prophet Muhammad such as Hazrath Abu Backer (R),Hazrath Umar (R),Hazrath Usman (R) and Hazrath Aayish (Raz.anha)?”
(Mr. Noor Muhammad offers a bunch of papers supporting this argument which included Urdu and English dailies from Mumbai-Times of India, Urdu Times Mumbai, and Roznama Rashtria Sahara Mumbai et al)
2. Dr.Zakir Naik on Prophet Muhammad (sal)
“How can a believing Muslim ask help from dead person even if that person be Prophet Muhammad (sal)?” rebutted Mr.Noor Mohammad. I hope you agree with me? Dr.Naik had tendered a written apology on the basis that if there could be any “slip of tongue” that he (Dr.Naik) would not resort to such thing. (Mr.Noor Mohammad gives copy of written apology dated 12.11.08 at 1.35pm) PS: This copy had been published in twocircles.net.
3.Dr.Zakir Naik on Fight against Enemies of Islam and Osama bin Laden.
Dr.Zakir Naik has spoken in the intense and explicit context of a fight or enemies of Islam. Of course, Dr.Naik did say that he supported those who fight against the enemies of Islam. He (Dr.Naik) does not know whether Osama bin Laden is a terrorist or he trains terrorists. But if Osama bin Laden’s fight is against enemies of Islam, Dr.Naik said that, “I am with him”.
(Mr.Noor Mohammad asks this correspondent to search for NDTV YouTube video session, “Walk and Talk” where this subject is discussed in detail)
4. Dr.Zakir Naik’s Concept not to greet people of non Muslims on their festivals.
“We teach all the students in our school the etiquette of neighbourhood and how to treat nicely the non Muslim guests who would be at our homes”
He goes further on to say that, “Please don’t take this as from Dr.Naik”, asks Mr.Noor Mohammad the correspondent.
Mohammad begins that, “But on this issue, I am very firm and I do teach myself in my classes that Muslims should not greet the people of non Muslims faiths in their festivals such as Christmas, Pongal, and Diwali etc. How can a Muslim greet “Happy Christmas” which will be a direct connotation or a determined reference more similar to “praying expression” to Jesus Christ to whom we don’t believe?” .So will be Pongal and Diwali. Mr. Noor Mohammad is replete with or deeply permeates with Holy Quran’s verses to support his school of thought taking Sura 2:173-Sura 5:3-Sura 6:145-Sura 16-115.
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as salam, i just want to say
as salam, i just want to say one thing, allah loves those who forgive, so lets forgive dr zakir naik, as he has done some mistakes unknowningly may be, as we all know he did a immence work on his studies and studied not only quran and sahi hadees but other religious books as well........ and we all do mistakes big or small, hidden or in public, i have no hard feelings for him, and i feel his true wish to preech and spread islam... for dr zakir naik, i belive in you, may allah protect us and guide us all, aameen...
to err is human
asalamualaikum, we human beings are so prone to find faults in others.I think its high time we look at the positive side of everyone.AS for dr Naik he is doin a great job ,and we muslims should stand by him always...of course he is human and to err is human..we muslims shouldnt find fault in other muslims and give in a chance for non muslims to put our brothers down...Even if Mr naik has uttered those words he has apologised so why do people keep finidng faults...its high time muslims mature and support muslims as a whole!
about the so called "errors" made by Dr. Zakir Naik
Assalamualaikum!
brother Zakir ; i have 1 thing to say in these trying times of urs!
"inna ma'al usri yusra"
"INDEED WITH HARDSHIP WILL BE EASE!"
i see truth in ur speech ; Inshalla Allah will get u out of this very soon!
Naik lack in islamic knowledge we need to save our imaan.
Salaamun Alaykum
The basic principle concerning the dead is that they do not hear the words of the living sons of Adam, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“but you cannot make hear those who are in graves”
[Faatir 35:22]
Wrong again ;) . Have you looked into the tafsir of that verse??? Or do you make your own tafsir, like many other wahabbis??? :lol:
Imam ibn kathir says conserning that verse 35:22: “but you cannot make hear those who are in graves.” means, `just as the dead cannot benefit from guidance and the call to truth after they have died as disbelievers and ended up in the graves, so too you cannot help these idolators who are decreed to be doomed, and you cannot guide them.' It is clear from the words of ibn kathir that the hearing of that verse means guidence (hedayah) (the prophet(saaws) can not guide them because they died as kuffar) and not that they can not hear us. So ibn Kathir explains that the hearing is the guidence. ;) And as you know after a person dies a kafir he cannot be guided anymore and its to late to repent.
And the dead could hear the prophet(saaws), that is clear from this hadith:
In Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 314: The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) ordered that the bodies of the idolaters slain on the day of Badr be thrown into a well whose interior was encased with stones, then he approached the well and began addressing the unbelievers by their names and fathers' names, saying: "O So-and-so son of So-and-so, and So-and-so son of So-and-so: it would have been easier if you had obeyed Allah and His Messenger. We have found what our Lord promised to be true; have you found what your Lord promised to be true?" To which `Umar said: "O Messenger of Allah, [I]why speak to lifeless bodies?" And he replied: "By Him in whose hand is the soul of Muhammad, you do not hear my words better than they do."
And in Muslim Book 040, Number 6869: "By Him in whose hand is the soul of Muhammad, you do not hear my words better than they do, only they are unable to answer."
And also:
Narrated Ibn 'Umar:
"The Messenger of Allah spoke to the People (buried) in the Well saying: "Have you found out that what your Lord had promised you is true?" then someone exclaimed: "Are you calling out to the dead!" The Prophet replied: "You do not hear better than they do, except they do not respond."[Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 23, Number 452]
And not only can the prophet(saws) hear us but so can all muslims::
Abu Umama said,
"When I die, do with me as the Prophet salallahu alayhi wasalam) ordered us, saying, 'When one of your brothers dies and you have smoothed over the earth upon his grave, let one of you stand at the head of the grave and say, "O So and so Son of So and so" for he will hear, though he cannot reply. Imam Tabarani related this hadith in his al-Mu'jam al kabir and Ibn Hajar al Asqalani has said that "its transmission is sound" [Talkhis al-habir fi takhrij ahadith al-Rafi'i al-kabir].
And the Prophet(saws) does know our situation::
Narrated Amr ibn al-'As: …When you bury me, fill my grave well with earth, then stand around it for a time which a camel is slaughtered and its meat is distributed so that I may enjoy your intimacy and (in your company) ascertain what answer I can give to the messengers (angels) of Allah. Sahih Muslim, Book 1, Number 0220.
See bellow also, where I show from more ahadith that the prophet(saws) is aware of his followers(muslims) in his(saws) holy grave.
There is nothing in the Qur’aan or in the saheeh Sunnah to indicate that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) can hear every du’aa’ or call from human beings.
First of all akhi…the prophet(saws) is NOT dead and Allah tells us not to even(because shuhada have lower position than prophets) call the shuhada dead:
“And say not of those who are slain in the way of Allah; "They are dead." Nay, they are living, though ye perceive (it) not.” (2:154).
And the prophet(saws) does hear and is aware of the situation of his ummah, read this hadith:
Ibn Mas`ud's narrated that the Prophet(saws) said: "My life is a great good for you, you will relate about me and it will be related to you, and my death is a great good for you, your actions will be exhibited to me, and if I see goodness I will praise Allah, and if I see evil I will ask forgiveness of Him for you." (Narrated from Ibn Mas`ud by al-Bazzar in his Musnad (1:397) with a sound chain as stated by al-Suyuti in Manahil al-Safa (p. 31 #8) and al-Khasa'is al-Kubra (2:281), al-Haythami (9:24 #91), and al-`Iraqi in Tarh al-Tathrib (3:297), Shaykh `Abd Allah al-Talidi said in his Tahdhib al-Khasa'is al-Kubra (p. 458-459 #694) that this chain is sound according to Muslim's criterion, and Shaykh Mahmud Mamduh in Raf`al-Minara (p. 156-169) discusses it at length and declares it sound. Their shaykh, al-Sayyid `Abd Allah ibn al-Siddiq al-Ghumari (d. 1413/1993) declared it sound in his monograph Nihaya al-Amal fi Sharh wa Tashih Hadith `Ard al-A`mal.)
And here is the explanation of the hadith by some great scholars:
Ibn al-Mubarak said: One of the Ansâr narrated to us from al-Minhal ibn `Amr that the latter hears Sa`id ibn al-Musayyib say: "Not one day passes except the Prophet's(saws) Community is shown to him morning and evening. He knows them by their marks [or names] and their actions, thereby giving witness concerning them. Allah said: “But how (will it be with them) when we bring of every people a witness, and We bring you (O Muhammad) a witness against these?” (4:41). (Narrated by Ibn al-Mubarak in al-Zuhd (p. 42), Ibn Kathir (asmâ'ihim instead of sîmâhum) in his Tafsir (1:500), al-Qurtubi in al-Tadhkira (1:335), Ibn Hajar (asmâ'ihim instead of sîmâhum) in Fath al-Bari (1959 ed. 9:99), and al-Mubarakfuri (asmâ'ihim instead of sîmâhum) in Tuhfa al-Ahwadhi (8:300).
And akhi…your wrong again the salaf did make tawassul just like the prophet taught them. I will first prove to you from a hadith from the prophet and then give you from the sahaba.
Tawassul taught by the holy prophet(saws):
Tirmidhi relates, through his chain of narrators from 'Uthman ibn Hunayf, that a blind man came to the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) and said, "I've been afflicted in my eyesight, so please pray to Allah for me." The Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) said: "Go make ablution (wudu), perform two rak'as of prayer, and then say:
"Oh Allah, I ask You and turn to You through my Prophet Muhammad,
the Prophet of mercy; O Muhammad (Ya Muhammad), I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight [and in another version: "for my need, that it may be fulfilled. O Allah, grant him intercession for me"."
The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) added, "And if there is some need, do the same."
Remember that there is a usuli principal that everything that the prophet(saws) teaches is valid until yowm al-qeyamah unless there is proof that show otherwise. And by the way…the prophet(saws) was not even present when the man made tawassul, because the prophet(saaws) said: GO make ablution (wudu), perform two rak'as…..
Now to the classification of the hadith by the muhadithun:
Tirmidhi has stated that the hadith of the blind man is "a hadith that is well or rigorously authenticated, Moreover, Baihaqi related the hadith by way of Hakim and confirmed that it was rigorously authenticated (SAHIH), Hakim having related it by a chain of transmission meeting the standards of Bukhari and Muslim :eek: , which the great muhadith Dhahabi confirmed, and Shawkani cited as evidence. The men of the hadith's chain of transmission are known to top Imams of hadith such as Dhahabi, Ibn Hajar, Hakim, Baihaqi, Tabarani, Ibn 'Abd al-Barr, Shawkani, and Ibn Taymiya. This hadith was also recorded by Bukhari in his "al-Tarikh al-kabir", by Ibn Majah in his "Sunan", where he said it was rigorously authenticated (SAHIH), by Nasa'i in "Amal al-yawm wa al-layla", by Abu Nu'aym in "Ma'rifa al-Sahaba", by Baihaqi in "Dala'il al-nubuwwa", by Mundhiri in "al-Targhib wa al-tahrib", by Haythami in "Majma' al zawa'id wa manba' al-fawa'id", by Tabarani in "al-Mu'jam al-kabir", by Ibn Khuzayma in his "Sahih", etc.
And here are some ahadith about the sahaba making tawassul after the prophets(saws) burial:
Tabarani, in his "al-Mu'jam al saghir," reports a hadith from 'Uthman ibn Hunayf that a man repeatedly visited Uthman ibn Affan (Allah be pleased with him) concerning something he needed, but Uthman paid no attention to him or his need. The man met Ibn Hunayf and complained to him about the matter - this being after the death (wisal) of the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) and after the caliphates of Abu Bakr and Umar - so Uthman ibn Hunayf, who was one of the Companions who collected hadiths and was learned in the religion of Allah, said: "Go to the place of ablution and perform ablution (wudu), then come to the mosque, perform two rak'as of prayer therein, and say:
'O Allah, I ask You and turn to You through our Prophet Muhammad,
the Prophet of mercy; O Muhammad (Ya Muhammad), I turn through you to my Lord, that He may fulfill my need,' and mention your need. Then come so that I can go with you [to the caliph Uthman]." So the man left and did as he had been told, then went to the door of Uthman ibn Affan (Allah be pleased with him), and the doorman came, took him by the hand, brought him to Uthman ibn Affan, and seated him next to him on a cushion. 'Uthman asked, "What do you need?" and the man mentioned what he wanted, and Uthman accomplished it for him, then he said, "I hadn't remembered your need until just now," adding, "Whenever you need something, just mention it." Then, the man departed, met Uthman ibn Hunayf, and said to him, "May Allah reward you! He didn't see to my need or pay any attention to me until you spoke with him." Uthman ibn Hunayf replied, "By Allah, I didn't speak to him, but I have seen a blind man come to the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace) and complain to him of the loss of his eyesight. The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said, "Can you not bear it?' and the man replied, 'O Messenger of Allah, I do not have anyone to lead me around, and it is a great hardship for me.' The Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) told him, 'Go to the place of ablution and perform ablution (wudu), then pray two rak'as of prayer and make the supplications.'" Ibn Hunayf went on, "By Allah, we didn't part company or speak long before the man returned to us as if nothing had ever been wrong with him."
The classification of the hadith by muhadithun:
The hadith is rigorously authenticated (sahih), as Tabarani explicitly states in his "al-Mu'jam al-saghir"1/184. The account has been classified as rigorously authenticated (SAHIH) by Baihaqi (bayhaqi belail an nabowa 6/167-168), Mundhiri, and Haythami.
Statements of contemporary scholars conserning the hadith:
Sheikh Shu'ayb Arna'ut said the hadith is rigorously authenticated (sahih). Morrocan muhadith Sheikh 'Abdullah Muhammad Ghimari, who characterized the hadith as "very rigorously authenticated," and noted that hadith masters Haythami and Mundhiri had explicitly concurred with Tabarani on its being rigorously authenticated (sahih).
And according to the Shafi'i school tawassul is mustahab, Ibn Naqib Al-Misri, and Imam Nawawi recorded in his "Al-Adhkar (281-282)", and "al-Majmu" explicitly record that "tawassul" through the Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) and asking his intercession are recommended.
Another hadith from the sahaba:
From the Sahabi Malik al-Dar:
The people suffered a drought in `Umar's khilafa, whereupon a man came to the grave of the Prophet sallAllahu `alayhi wa- Alihi wa-Sallam and said: "Messenger of Allah! Ask for rain for your Community, for verily they have but perished." After this the Prophet(saws) appeared to him in a dream and told him: "Go to `Umar and give him my greeting, then tell him that they will be watered. Tell him: Be clever!" The man went and told `Umar. The latter wept and said: "My Lord! I spare no effort except in what escapes my power." Another version of the hadith is recorded by al-Tabari in his Tarikh (2:509).
Ibn Kathir cites it thus from al-Bayhaqi's Dala'il al-Nubuwwa (7:47) in al-Bidaya wal-Nihaya (Ma`arif ed. 7:91-92=Dar Ihya' al-Turath ed. 7:105) saying: "isnaduhu sahih" and he also declares its chain sound (isnaduhu jayyidun qawi) in his Jami` al-Masanid (1:223) in Musnad `Umar. Ibn Abi Shayba cites it (6:352=12:31-32) with a sound (sahih) chain as confirmed by Ibn Hajar who says: "rawa Ibn Abi Shayba bi'isnadin sahih" and cites the hadith in Fath al-Bari, Book of Istisqa ch. 3 (1989 ed. 2:629-630=1959 ed. 2:495) as well as in al-Isaba (6:164 §8350=3:484) where he says that Ibn Abi Khaythama cited it. It is also thus narrated by al-Khalili in al-Irshad (1:313- 314) and Ibn `Abd al-Barr in al-Isti`ab (2:464=3:1149).
Ibn Hajar identifies the man who visited and saw the Prophet upon him peace, in his dream as the Companion Bilal ibn al- Harith, counting this hadith among the reasons for al- Bukhari's naming of the chapter "The people's request to their leader for rain if they suffer drought" in his Sahih, book of Istisqa'.
Yet another hadith from the salaf:
Reported from our Mother A'isha(ra) in al-Darimi's Sunan, in the 15th Chapter of the Introduction (1:43) titled: "Allah's generosity to His Prophet after his death," related from Aws ibn `Abd Allah with a good chain:
"The people of Madina complained to `A'isha of the severe drought that they were suffering. She said: "Go to the Prophet's grave and open a window towards the sky so that there will be no roof between him and the sky." They did so, after which they were watered with such rain that vegetation grew and the camels got fat. That year was named the Year of Plenty."
The classification of the hadith:
It is declared authentic by all the Sunni experts of hadith(Encyclopedia of Islamic Doctrine (4:47-52)), last in date Shaykh Nabil ibn Hashim al-Ghamri in his 1999 10-volume edition of and commentary on al-Darimi titled Fath al-Mannan (1:564-566).
And here are what some ‘ulama (scholars) have said conserning tawassul:
Imam Ibn Hajar said:
"It is desirable to seek the intercession of saintly people and the relatives of the Prophet sallAllahu `alayhi wa-Alihi wa-Sallam, and it shows al-`Abbas's great merit and that of `Umar due to the latter's humbleness before al-`Abbas and his recognition of his due right." (Ibn Hajar in Fath al-Bari (2:497).
Imam ibn kathir cites the above hadith from Sahabi Malik al-Dar in his explenation of the verse 4:64 of the holy Quran, and says:
يرشد تعالى العصاة والمذنبين إذا وقع منهم الخطأ والعصيان أن يأتوا إلى الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم، فيستغفروا الله عنده ويسألوه أن يستغفر لهم فإنهم إذا فعلوا ذلك تاب الله عليهم ورحمهم وغفر لهم، ولهذا قال {لوجدوا الله توابا رحيما} وقد ذكر جماعة منهم الشيخ أبو نصر بن الصباغ في كتابه الشامل الحكاية المشهورة عن العتبي، قال: كنت جالسا عند قبر النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم، فجاء أعرابي فقال: السلام عليك يا رسول الله، سمعت الله يقول[ ولو أنهم إذ ظلموا أنفسهم جاؤوك فاستغفروا الله واستغفر لهم الرسول لوجدوا الله توابا رحيما]
وقد جئتك مستغفرا لذنبي مستشفعا بك إلى ربي......
ثم انصرف الأعرابي، فغلبتني عيني فرأيت النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم في النوم، فقال يا عتبي، الحق الأعرابي فبشره أن الله قد غفر له
If ibn kathir was against tawassul he would have condemmed the hadith, but instead he calles it sahih and is scilent about it, ibn kathir would never have been schilent about shirk.
Here are the names of some of the ‘ulama that allowed or encouraged tawassul, I give the references for studies from their works that will illustrate that:
Imâm Ahmad said that in based it on his time with Safwan Ibn Sulaym(as related from his student Abu Bakr al Marwaziyy), also see Ibn Taymiyyah al-Tawassul wal-Wasîlah (s. 98).
Imâm Nawawi(Nawawi al-Adhkar).
al-Qurtubi(study Qurtubi tafsîr and specially the comments on verses about tawassul)
Ibn Kathîr(as mentioned above from his tafsir).
Ibn Hajar al-Asqalâni (Fath al-Bâri kitâb al-Istisqa).
al-Bayhâqi (Dalayl al-Nubuwwah (6:166).
al-Nisâ’I (‘Amal al-Yawm wal-laylah).
al-Tirmidhi (al-D’awât).
al-Tabarâni, (al-Du’a).
al-Hâkim, (al-Mustadrak).
al-Mundhari (al-Targhib wal-Tarhib) and
al-Haythami (Majma’ al-Zawâyd).
It would need a lot more text to cover the topic of tawassul, but I hope this will be of help where you can begin.
Allahs salawat and salaam on our sayyed Muhammad and his pure ahlul bait.
about some muslim writers writing in marathi against islamic pri
Dr.Zakirbhai,
Assalamolkum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatahu,
This may perhaps be a new experience for you. In maharashtra there are more than 350 marathi muslim wirters who have contributted to marathi literature. ( The history goes to 15th Century0 The problem is that there are no sufficient books on islam in marathi. Thos who studies through Marathi medium,uch muslims observing the sarroundings comment adversely and also bring out in writing things which are forbidden in islam. The effect of nastik persons like Hamid Dalwai is much on such writers. If we want to convince the non islamic persons in maharashtra about the principles and the scientific reasons for he traditions what way is to be adopted. this is important for the writers like me.
Sincerely,
ehtesham(Jalgaon)
DearEhtesham I would like to
DearEhtesham
I would like to inform you that in Marathi language AhsanulBayan Quran translation which is published from salafi madrasa in malegaon is the most authentic tafseer.Also you may refer ShamsPeerzadasDawatulQuran.You may meet ZakirBhai in mumbai on sunday lecture or prior appointment.
Forgive us Allah...
Assalamu 'alaikum.
I'm not a regular on this circle... I just accidentally stumbled upon this thread...The first question that comes to my mind after reading all the posts is "when shall we start being Muslims rather than being Sunnis, Shias, Salafis, Wahabis, Berelvis and so on so forth....??"
Sisters and Brothers, let us not become the cause of deviation of even a single muslim mind. Do we not consider what we say or write might have bearing on other people's thought? if yes, then are we ready to answer on their behalf on the day of judgment?
Let us prepare ourselves first. Prepare for that final day... not for fuelling fitna...How many of us are confident that she/he is knowledgeable enough to comment about nitty-greetties of Deen and about other Muslims??? I, as a muslim seeking true practice in twenty first century curse those- who put “ism” before Deen- for making my Deen difficult for me… See you on the day of Judgement!
My point, sisters and brothers, is that- let us correct ourselves to become true muslims first... and if we do that, inshallah we'll see all fitna vanishing away themselves!
"False Preacher" - He will
"False Preacher" - He will be judged directly by Allah for what he has done, encouraging Hatred & Violence.
i m speechless after seeing
i m speechless after seeing this comment. i understand people have distinct opinions but before we speak we should understand that anything we say has a repercussion and also our accusation should be backed by genuine and logical statements. not some whimsical emotional babble.......i m extremely worried about ur mental condition............plzzz tell me with valid reasons y u feel dat Dr. Zakir Naik is a false preacher........did he say anything which was false, did not match the scriptures or wat??? if u cant then take back ur statement........its kiddish to say things which one cant prove.......
It is all muslim duty to understand islam
Dear All,
Before putting a blame on any body, look after you, whether you have try to learn islam. because all people think that, it is a duty of Alim, Hafiz, Mufti, olma. tell me what is your duty to only earn money, listen them and take what is worth for you.if it against your profile then all Alim, Hafiz, Mufti, olma are wrong. definately what they have learn that they will answer you. Many muslim who now that alcohol is haram then also they drink, because they like that. at that moment nobody bother about islam. because of that entire religion get effected. I really thanks to Dr. zakir naik, atleast he come up with knowledge of islam, any body is not hundred percent perfect he is trying his best.
Salaam, Everyone has faults.
Salaam,
Everyone has faults. I am not perfect and i am sure many of you are not perfect also. Dr zakir naik is human, he is intelligent you have to give him some credit, a lot of people have come to islam because of him. Let ALLAH swt be the judge, we all need to be better practising muslims, remember the pious person will always have a bad name due to satan playing with your mind, as he doesnt want many to follow them, Follow the sunah and the Quran and do not just read practise up on what you read, we are not here to cause more hatred between the muslim Ummah many are dying because of the wars, and we sleep cosy in our beds? So PLEASE BROTHERS AND SISTERS STOP THIS BICKERING WE HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO IN OUR TIME LIKE PRAY AND MAKE DUA FOR OTHERS AROUND US, LETS NOT FIGHT OR ARGUE WITH EACH, YOU KEEP YOUR OPINION AND I SHALL KEEP MINE..
oh muslims you become
oh muslims you become muslim. remember u must have to go back to almighty and you will be asked for your deeds. so have preparation for akhirah
Education
Assalamo Alaikoom............Zakir sahab
I have some questions if you give answer it will be big thing for me.
where did you learn "Dini Taleem"
Who is your teacher
what is the status of Tabligi Jamaat in your view.
Regards
(Naim Ahmed)
Irrational questions
Dear Naim,
Why are you posing these irrelevant questions- Dr. Naik is not a mufti, neither he gives any legal rulings that he should have Deeni Taleem or an appropriate teacher.
The simple message of the Qur'an already exists for all humanity, which is what Dr. Naik is spreading- or do you mean to say that the Qur'an is only meant for scholars??
How does Tablighi Jamat fit into this- whether or not one has good opinion of it, or whether or not it is doing the right work is immaterial..
tell me about barber profession is halah or not
assalam alikum sir please tell me barber profession is halal or not because one barber family propose me their son has a barber profession i mean please tell me i accept this proposal or not out of this family is very simple and islamic but i am confused what i do i don't about barber profession is halal r not please sir help me and reply me quickly please sir.
w salam
@ Nishath & M
@ Nishath & M Naqqaad
Assalamo Alaikoom,
Thanks for replying to my comment. I would like to thank Nishath for commenting on my post. I want to discuss more with you please mail me if u have time. I also want to thank Mr M Naqqaad for you suggesting me to learn Arabic. I am trying man. Your name has got nice meaning.
I want to see your view over one fact that is
if I pray for Yazeed(the killer of Profet's(PBUH) grand son) beside praying for Imam Hussain and Hassan am I making any sin .
You too people have god knowledge in Islam. Please comment with proper citation.
Write to me at
subidh@gmail.com
Subidh
regarding islam
dear readers ASSALAM WA ALAIKUM WA RAHEMATULLAHE WA BARAKATUHU (may allahs peace mercy and blessing be on upon u) my brothers and sisters please if u dont like dr zakir naik ok fine but my request to u is pls read about islam i hope u know that today the most growing religion is islam i ask a simple question to all of u why? please search the answer of this question insha allah u will find the true path...........ur brother azmat ali deshmuk allah hafiz(allah protect u)
Bin Laden is a Takfiri-Khariji
Even if Bin Laden is apparently "fighting" against enemies of Islam, at the same time he is also declaring Muslims as Kaafirs and Islamic Scholars have issued fatwas against him which has declared him a Khariji. So, it is incorrect for Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah to support Bin Laden but he needs to be refuted and boycotted. Hope Dr. Naik and IRF gain more knowledge of Islam before they go around preaching to others.
Regarding Yazeed, there is difference of opinion among Scholars and the best opinion is to neither consider him to be a saint nor a Kaafir. Obviously the Shia and Barelvis are wrong.
Regarding the other 2 issues, Dr. Naik is correct.
The Problem with Dr.Naik
We need Islamic preachers who are humble, who consider Islam to be one of several religions seeking the path to God, who respect the religions of others, who promote brotherhood of the human race, who can interpret Quranic injunctions in a broad humanistic framework, who condemn violence, terrorism and suicide-bombing in unequivocal terms, who denounce extremism and fanaticism, and who advance the cause of gender justice and gender equality. Unfortunately Dr.Zakir Naik is none of those.
dr zakir naik
ASSALAM WA ALAIKUM WA REHMATULLAHE WA BARAKATUHU my dear brother my humble request to u is love allah and his mesenger muhammad (saw)only and read true islam if u dont like dr zakir naik no problem but at least read follw practise the true way of islam and pray for me also allah hafiz.................................
for your comment on Dr.
for your comment on Dr. Zakir Naik, i would advise you to follow more of his lecture.. and base your conclusions on facts... any quotations will also be preferred.Plss perfectly weight the good things about him and whatever disagreement you are having before jumping into conclusions.
Interviewer's unethical attitude!!!
Assalaamualaikum Warahmatullaah,
I R K Noor Muhammad (not M K Noor Muhammad)really shocked to read my interview which has been distorted, quoted me out of context, I don't know whether the interviewer did this delibrately or by mistake, Allaah knows the best!
I said, I myself teach in the classes that we should live in harmony with non-Muslims, united, together and giving all their due rights etc.,we have nothing against non-Muslims in our syllabus, we are only following what is the Qur'aan and authentic ahadeeth, we follow the Islaam which was followed by the companions free from division and sectarianisms, why the interviewer conveniently deleted that portion?
when it came to wishing non-Muslims on their festivals I told him clearly that this is an issue of Aqeedah of Ahlus Sunnah wal jamah, we cannot greet them on their festivals and this is not a serious issue anyways.
I sincerely request the journalists to give the complete interview not the distorted, out of context and misleadiing ones
Salaam, I just wanted to
Salaam, I just wanted to comment on what you wrote.
Why should we greet non-muslims at christmas? half the people do not know why they celebrate in the first place, they do not wish me Eid-Mubarak and majority do not agree with our festivals. They continue practising their ways and we do the same. By greeting them we are accepting what they celebrate is correct Christmas is a Pagan Holiday anyway, read up on their history you will find out more. And I agree with Dr zakir to some extent , we are all students, Islam is all about seeking knowledge, and you can still learn a thing or two or maybe more of many scholars, always check the references they quote. so that your ears and eyes are both convinced, no one knows ones intention only ALLAH swt knows, so may ALLAH swt make us all Good Muslims, and humble because from most peoples comments there coming across as harsh, Let ALLAH swt be the judge of zakir. Personally i wouldn't send blessings on YAZID how can i when look what he did to the prophet pbuh's family. but then ALLAH knows best.
Sorry part of my Comment was meant for you, but then i got carried away and the rest is for everyone else.
Expose the salafis
Kausar is absolutely right. Salafi must be banned from posting his obnoxious views here. It would be even better if the real meaning of the ideology of the salafis is exposed to the Muslims so that they may not fall prey to marketing strategy of these polygamous extremists. Thousands of parents are happily paying 7000 rupees per month to Zakir Naik to brainwash their children. Many have taken there children out of quality schools like the Don Bosco to put them in Naik's Islamic International School. Soon these parents are going to realise their folly. May Allah save the Muslim community from salafi fanaticism.
correct it
brother ,
dont misunderstand salafis and islamic school. it may be better than Donbosco school
Heartrending Attitude
Dear Brethren,Our aim should be to please Allah and get his reward(Jannah)at the end.Only Muslims can achieve Jannah, so be Muslim always rather than being called Sunni or Shia or Salafi or Bohra or Barelvi.When Muslim world is going through a desicive period,when our enemies(Hindutva fascists, Zionist,Crusaders and Communists)get together to wipe out Islam from the earth,we should not devote time in mud slinging process.Creating FITNA(trouble)among Muslims is rampant as our enemies have succeeded to some extent.Though Isam and Quraan are complete,people understand them in defferent way as circumstance varies from one person to another.Do something beneficial to Ummah instead of being engaged in character assasination.Allah bless all of us.
Kudos to brave ladies.
I hereby fully endorse Madam Parveen and other lady to expose Salafis on the platform of Two net Circle. Some of them have become habitual, propagating their nonsenses ideology by hook or by crook!
Regarding Dr.Naik we all must know the source of his income. He has became millionaire, after his religious business!!!
He was a inhabitant of one room at Palla galli, Dongri, area of south Mumbai, that room was also grabbed by his father Dr. Abdul Karim from a Bengali widow.
I hereby invite all the right thinking Muslims who believes the true spirit of Islam, based on holy Quran and teaching of prophet Mohammed SAW., to counter the false ideology of Salafism, as this forum has become the easy and assessable ground to liar salafis to propagate their brand of Islam, as they like, by copying unreliable verses from Internet.
Lets think about ourselves
Ms Kausar Begum, Parveen Bano and Kader Bootwala,
I am not very fond of Dr Zakir Naik nor am against him. Kader Bootwala saab, you dont know how to write your name correctly, how come mere 'snatching of Bengali widows house' will belittle Dr Naik, even if he is at fault. You say he way staying in one room. Do you mean one should be residing in big mansion to be great. May be he wanted to be hubmle. Many claim to follow the true life of the Prophet but is it the way he lived. Did he live in mansion as you expect any of this follower to be real follower. Did he ask people to just follow him without knwoing what is being done. Unfortunately Barelvi's ask their followers to follow what is invented as Sunnat. I have lived in Barely and found that any type of education, religious or otherwise is a strict no-no to girls just because they are supposed to be segregated, but, I found them rearing a flock of buffalos and not only that, but picking up guava off the bush of kitchen garden of the roadside houses. What picture does it give of a Muslim lady? Illiterate, ignorant and what else. But, the same lady is aware about an Eid being of wahhabis hence not to be celebrated but the mohalli Masjid at 10 o'clock declares that there is no Rozah today. Is it not mockery of your control on certain number of people who are being led astray. Those who are at it are at a perennial loss and are sure to be getting the wrath of nobody else but Allah. In this world itself, they are to get all the treatment they derserve.
Ms Kausar and Parveen, you too wrote how Dr Naik speaks. Come to the context ladies. You represent the general secularised people who happen to be even at the homes of many Dr Naik follewer. While you have the teeth to tell Dr Naik (remember, I am not a fan or follower of Naik) he does not know how to talk to a lady. Do you think you qualify to be that lady who need to be talked the way you expect him to talk. Agreed that Mr Salafi writes what he wants but how can you ask TCN to banish him just because you think your words are not enough but need some help as well. If your words are genuine, they'll stick to many minds and you need not ask for reservation as is being done in India. If capability is the criteria, why have 33% incapable and leftover meritorious. These33% would be not more than a pawn in the hands of the others. We get to see that always.
To many Dr Naiks 7000 pm fee is bad but a mention of Don Bosco shows how much educated you are. If you wish your child to be as ignorant as you are about education and putting your child in convent (convent means a christian madarsah) makes him liberal, dont complain about not having a old age home becuase Muslim parents live and die with their children and not at old age home. The insanity you have in person should not be tried to be sold as liberal. I would consider others liberal when they send their children to my govt aided school which teaches their clanguage as well. Come to sense ladies, they do not send their children to my school because it is run by me, though I follow the medium and syllabus available with others, just because I am a Muslim. Many of my students join IIT and NDA for that matter. If to you becoming a quasi christian is not a problem, your choice but do not seek reservations like knowhow of talking to a lady while the lady takes liberty of all kinds. Ladies of a society are not only ornaments but more than that. You must at best be visiting your child's school while spending husbands earning. I am being personal but please forgive me for this. If you are working, have you seen people asking about christmas to a christian but always ask about Eid and Rozah etc. May be you too are not aware about them but asking each year shows they are not liberal while you are ignorant. They atleast have a culture, might be of ignorance, you are not entitled of even that, but being liberal, you dare calling others, while being best of the ignorant. If Zakir Naik's school charges fee equal or more than many Public Schools, you complain but pay through nose and then complain of non-availability of 'quality' schools run by Muslims. May be you are some clergy type of people claiming to be be Muslim, where a bearded ignorant practices religion like the Hindu and Christian priest do.
My call to you is to learn Arabic and study the Qur'an and many Ahadees available so that you need not follow any sect and are independent of anybody like Salafis, Barelvis, Wahhabis or Ahle Hadees etc. Our relation is directly with Allah, individually and the shifa'at of the Prophet would be only on the Day of Judgement. Mere abusing others or asking for favours for being a woman is not the solution. Woman in fact is more responsible than a man. She is entitled to consessions as well provided the practice by her is justifiable. By the way, what is your say about the left over 30% of european ladies who cannot marry legally because only 35% of the population is male? It was in this context that Dr Zakir Naik talked of the 'free' lady concept. If you say that that is not our problem for being Indian, I have wasted my time in trying to reason out. The universe is of Allah and we cannot absolve ourselves off just because we are from other part. May Allah give us the courage to practice His way instead of pointing and blaming others.
Mr.Naqqad is not good critics!
Mr.Naqqad, with due respect, because most of the time you have called me brother.
You are always criticising the names of the representative on the forum. May I know, What is this Naqqad? It is not an Islamic name.
What I know, through my Urdu knowledge, Naqqad means the critics!
According to your name unnecessary you are criticising others, poking your nose, posing yourself very intelligent and others fools!
It is unIslmic.
You are not always right!
And yes, why you always tried to become the mediator, without any invitation!!!
Regarding Zakir Naik's one room,
I don't bother he may reside in the palace of Saudi rulers or with his homosexual friend Anwar Ebrahim in a lavish apartment in Malaysia, who was sentenced for years in jail.
Your mentor Zakir Naik was the residence of a room, which was forcefully grabbed by a Bengali widow by some thirty years back. At that time Zakir Naik was matured and part of that grabbed room with his father Abdul Karim Naik.
Whether it is allowed in Islam to grabbed the property of some poor widow?
Mr.Naqqad, don't try to become much smart, like Zakir Naik. You are all one and same hypocrite, fooling innocent Muslims in the name of Islam!!!
Charity begins at home
Dear Abdul Qadir,
While you are not able to digest my comments on your comment on someone else, how come you do the same. I did not criticise either of you but said that both of you need to continue your own instead of making it 'washing dirty linen in public' and Dr Zakir Naik did not but only you did it. I am yet to hear or see from Naik's side but you did the same on TCN.
Now, how come I am trying to be oversmart. It is upto people at large who need to tell whether one is smart and not and not the person itself. I always remember this and never claim to be anybody. If you intend to ban comments on a public forum like TCN, one can imagine what would be your act on your own media!! Did Dr Naik asked you to write his name? How come you can eat and have your cake simultaneously. Please see reason. If your comments of anybody were not asked for and you did, how come you think others will not. A kettle cannot call a tumbler black my dear. ہوش کے ناخون لو and make sure that you are reasonable. My name is Muhammad Naqqaad which means a person who is engaged in praise of Allah and who is a critic. It will not make any difference if you put another 'a' or omit an 'a' from my name. I am lesser mortal seeking Allah's mercy and am not divine. If one feels he is divine and need not face the Judgement, let him do his own things while asking others not to do.
My comments were not personal but your comments on Dr Naik have been, in public, without any proof (images etc). Is this not تہمت then what it is? Is this not forbidden? May Allah have His mercy on both of you!!
Salafi should not be allowed to post
How dare this fellow Salafi tells a woman that "she is free to change her name and enjoy as she likes". Does he realise what he is suggesting? You fanatic! dont you know how to talk to a woman? But then how can you? You have been trained by Zakir Naik who himself once answered a non-Muslim woman that she would be better off being the second or third wife of someone than becoming "public property." How crude!
I hope the readers of Two Circles have realised that the salafis throughout this debate have adopted the Bush Doctrine: YOU ARE WITH US OR AGAINST US. There is no middle ground for them. Anyone who does not agree with salafism is a kafir and might as well change her name and enjoy as she likes. Another peculiar thing that can be observed here is that they want to settle all issue through a debate. Example; S.M.Pasha.If this is not extremism what is? The Muslims should realise that by putting our children in schools run by people like Zakir Naik will cause great harm to them. They will become so rigid that they will start hating all non-Muslims and non-Salafis. These schools must not be allowed to exist in India. Let us all bring pressure to close them down.
kauser
I think you should go back to sleep.. Allah bless you..Sleep well
Control your tongue Ms.
Control your tongue Ms. Kauser or whatever! Allah knows the best! and Allah has not asked any believing woman to prostrate like a Dog or has seperated women from performing Hajj differently from Men, nor has he asked woman not to visit the Masjid, nor he asked woman to offer any different zakath from Men!
Women enjoys every position equal to man in islam, the only religion which gives the Liberty to woman is Islam! Just because you know a few words about the Madhab dont wag your tongue, think of a day when your so wagging tongue would stop talking, your other parts would answer for your doings!
Alhamdulilah! what the Brother said about women is True! she has the liberty to choose her man, But her man should be a believing man and so she has can marry him only with her Fathers Permit. And for that small issue you called him a Fanatic! You never kow who is the Salihun, Siddiqun in the eyes of Allah! Lest Control your tongue and your typing stregth before you comment on a believer!
And stop criticizing salafi's for no one knows who is the fragrance of jaanah, which school is the one, neither me nor you, and you dont have any rights to openly say "Salafi should not be allowed to Post" You are a human and so is a Salafi! You are created of Mud and o is a Salafi, You read the Quran and So is salafi! You Prostrate in front of allah and so does a Salafi! You Cry to Allah for help and so is Salafi! Bear your tongue and those words for Allah has said "A women's dominion always results in wrath" Bear in mind before showing off your typing strength!
Oh and to add, if you have a
Oh and to add, if you have a problem, do not send your own children to his school , if parents want to let them its their choice, and ALLAH SWT knows best how they will turn out, do you have any idea what your children will turn out to be when there older??? No you do not. WHY ARE PEOPLE SO QUICK TO COMMENT ON OTHERS LOOK AT YOURSELF FIRST!
Peace Exhibition controversy
After observing keenly the ongoing debate here I noticed that all the people defending Dr. Zakir Naik are doing it emotionally. So far none of his supporters have denied any of the allegations againt Dr.Naik. For example, it was alleged that he charges more than Rs.7000 per month, excluding books, as fees for primary school students and no one has denied this. Someone wrote that the stage on which Dr. Naik sits is worth upto 40 lakh rupees. Even this has not been denied. An article claimed that religious extremism is preached in Dr.Naik's schools, and surprisingly, this has been confirmed by Mr. R.K.Noor to TCN. Given these facts it may not be wrong to say that the Dr. Zakir Naik's opposers do have a point. He seems to be an extremist.
reply to warris haleem's baseless claims against dr.zakir naik
may peace, mercy & blesiings of almighty allah(swt) be on all of you,
to tell ALL the people defending zakir naik are emotional is by itself an emotional statement. i request haleem to do his SELF ANALYSIS before judging anyone. if br zakir is charging 7000rs, then what is your problem. there are 100's of children studying in that school, they dont have any problem, so what is yours??? dont be jealous if u cannot do it. i too believe with you that dr zakir naik is extremeist, he is extremely kind, honest,truthfull etc. i hope even u be the extremist like brother zakir.
wassalam.
Assalaam-o-AlaIKUM I WANNA
Assalaam-o-AlaIKUM
I WANNA SAY THAT DR.ZAKIR NAIK IS A GOOD HUMAN AND HE IS AN EXTREMIST AND EVERY MUSLIM SHOLUD BE AN EXTREMIST.THE WORD 'EXTREMIST' IN HALEEM'S MIND IS THAT TOLD IN THE MEDIA.
BUT ACTUALLY EXTREMIST MUSLIM MEANS THAT A MUSLIM WHO IS VERY MUCH KIND,HONEST,RUTHFULL AND ONE WHO BELIEVES STAUNCHLY BELIEVES IN ALLAH AND HIS LAST MESSENGER HAZRAT MOHAMMED ( S.A.W.).
AS FAR AS HIS REMARKS ABOUT YAZEED IS CONCERNED I THINK HE IS RIGHT BECAUSE HE WAS ATLEAST A MUSLIM (NOT A TRUE ONE).AND WE SHOULD PRAY FOR ALL OUR MUSLIM BROTHERS AND SISTERS.
CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY NO NEW PROGRAMMES OF ZAKIR NAIK ARE BEEN BROADCASTED ON PEACE V?
Zakir is not forcing any one to join School.
Brother Waris Haleem,why are you shifting the focus from real debate Islam versus Secularism to Zakirs income,school and cost of the dias?Till now not a single secularist has come up with any covincing answer against the ideology of Islam(they can never come till the day of judgement).
Instead of indulging in character assasination they should accept the defeat and become true muslim and stop admiring impotent secular democracy which cannot protect any of the rights of minorities.
Islamic International Conference of 1.57 billion strong muslims in the world does deserve an international standard dias.
If you dont have enough money to educate your children then you have lot of Central Govt.state govt,and munciplr corporation schools where education is free and they provide midday meal too.
A muslim is one who obeys each and every instruction of Allah(swt)and Prophet(saas),if anyone thinks this is extremism then there is nothing wrong in being one.Alhamdulillah
The information provided by
The information provided by Abdus Salam is disturbing. I was not aware that Bilal Philips and some others in the Peace group have four wives and I have an uneasy feeling that this is true because it has not been denied by the Zakir Naik camp. On top of it R.K.Noor has said in the interview that children in the Islamic International School are taught not to respect people of other faiths. Actually I was planning to put my son in that school but now I have decided against it. I do not want him to become a misfit in society when he grows up. I am also going to ask my friend who admitted her son in IIS last year to consider removing him.
Allah(swt)instructed
Allah(swt)instructed Prophet(saas)not to stop drinking honey which is Halal food.Then why Zarina is objecting to any muslim who has four wives when Allah(swt)and Prophet(saas)have given permission?
If you think the permission given in Quran for 4 wives is wrong then you are against Allah(swt)who has given you life.Imagine fighting with one who has created this universe,minute part of which is our solar system,and the sun contains millios of atomic bomb explosions taking place everyday in front of you.
Polygamy
Abrar,
I think your undrstanding of polygamy in islam in superficial. I am a non-muslim and what i heard from a good muslim is, you are allowed to marry one healthy woman and 3 women who are either old or destitute. The case here is that men marrying 4 virgins, which will only cause social upheavel if others won't get women to marry and procreate.
Polygamy - Reply to Giri
It appears Giri is questioning about "polygamy" with half-baked OR hear-say knowledge, about Islam and Polygamy.
Mr. Giri:
Yes, "polygamy" is allowed in Islam. If, (and that's a big IF) one chooses to practice it, the attached requirements / duties on that person are strict. If one is willingly / knowingly abusing "polygamy", then he is responsible to answer "Allah". I don't want to waste TCN's web-site space to list those requirements / duties.
Now, I would question you (respected Mr. Giri) show me the percentage of Muslims in India, Pakistan, or any Muslim country practicing "polygamy".
And, I will show you Hindus in India practicing "polygamy" (behind the screen, secretly, and unofficially) are MORE THAN the Muslims practicing "polygamy". A small hint ((without my intention of hurting feelings of anyone)) are "Devadasis" at Temples in India. I hope you understand, where I am pointing??
I would wait for your answer with authentic / official / reliable statistics on Muslims practicing "polygamy".
And remember Mr. Giri - a good Muslim "may not" be knowledgeable w.r.t. polygamy. He maybe confusing you and other readers. So, please refrain from commenting with "half-knowledge". Thank you.
Good Luck.
An Indian
polygamy
Mr Indian how you know Hindus in India practicing "polygamy" (behind the screen, secretly, and unofficially) are MORE THAN the Muslims you have any proof or you are a day dreamer foolish man devadasis are dancers which thry only dance in front of god not in front of others.Look at your nawabs after marraying many women still they go other women who sings qawali songs. Almost muslim men are hving twoor three wifes who preaches the peace and brotherhood but they never practice all muslims taking advantage of polygamy which is there in islam.Recent reports say that 80%pakistan law makers are married twicw or thrice now where you will keep your face mr.Indian and please dont say indian beacause our Indian Culture is Ramayan.
Polygamy is better than several irresponsibe relations.
Islam is based on Quran and Sunnah.Your question is hypothetical.Everywhere in the world there are millions of virgins,divorcees,widows.Islam allows muslims to marry upto 4 women without any distinction regarding their virginity or health.
Islam is pro marriage,always encourages people to lead a happy,married,responsible life towards their wives and children and all the family.Islam considers illegal sexual intercourse even if both agree as a grave sin,in all these relations women suffer most.
To know Islam it is not good to visit orientalist websites or ask your ignorant friends.Go to source i.e.Quran &Sunnah.
I can understand your tactics to divert debate but Islam is ideological superpower,have all the answers to problems of humanity.
Your response to polygamy
Your response to my question and your views on polygamy is laughable. If it is true that a muslim can marry upto 4 healthy virgin women and be happy, then you are only creating social havoc. Just saying there are millions of women available (like commodities) is laughable as there are millions of men who are striving to get a single life. There is a delicate balance of sex ratio skewed favourable towards men, thanks to hatred against girl child in out society and on the top of that you want to have muslims marry 4 healthy women to lead a happy life? what about other men?
I would like to ask a non-salafi, non-wahabi muslim women if it is true that one can marry 4 healthy wives.
" Just saying there are
" Just saying there are millions of women available (like commodities) " This is Wrong Mr Giri to put words in the mouth.. A man marries one or 4 wives (Which is allowed in islam conditionally but not commanded to) is with the will of both man and woman. So here the women are not commodities like you think.. They are having all the right to reject and look out for a man who has no wife..You dont seem to have any respect towards women perhaps
Brothers, Assalamo
Brothers, Assalamo Alaikum.
Don't forget Dr, Zakir Naik is doing a good job and he is a great man.
What an idea Pashaji!! You
What an idea Pashaji!! You want to organise a debate. But where will you get the crores of rupees to hold this meeting Sirji? Dont you know that for such a venture you need to have access to Gulf money, or at least know how to milk a rich businessman dry? And where will this debate take place? Madarse Azam School? Hahaha.
By the way how about a debate between you and the Shia Qazi on Yazeed? Or better still how about a friendly symposium on polygamy between Bilal Philips and mufti Umer with Dr.Zakir Naik as the referee?
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