Do you support proposed Central Madrasa Board?
Yes
58% (234 votes)
No
36% (145 votes)
I do not know
6% (23 votes)
Total votes: 402
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I support the Central Madrasa
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Edutation
Each and any one should get full respect what he studies.
Markazi Madarsa Board
The management of madarsas are much worried about this board. There are many reasons.
1- The income through madarsa shall become auditable. Main Trouble.
2- The salaries of staff shall be given by the government. So the management cannot blackmail the teaching and non teaching staff.
3- exploitation shall be lesser by the management.
4- Development of Educational status of Muslims.
The managment of Maadrsas
The managment of Maadrsas which r currently affiliated to any board are worried about the affiliation with 'Markazi Madarsa Board" priamrily fo following reasons:
1. they feel they will loose autonomy
2. they can no more fool around with illiterate community as the accounts will become auditable.
3. They can no more exploit the teaching staff and keep them engaged for paltry amounts as the salary will be paid by Govt.
4. Education will bring devlopment and community would no more be amenable to exploitation.
Nevertheless, it is not true for all madarsa managements there are ppl who r doing commendabel jobs.
Where are you living
Where are you living Mr Badr? All madarsahs do their audit regularly. The problem with govt getting into this business is to create another stereotype where the teachers of these madarsahs will not be paid at par with other teachers for sure and the meagre they earn will continue to be there except the enactment of govt strenglehold and making them accept that Hindi is a modern subject. One can only laugh with a broken heart and people like you are there to accept anything on face value because of the packing, another Mahmood Abbas. The people who run madarsahs do in voluntarily. Let the govt survey and open school which is attended by 96% of Muslims and 100% seek the schools. Let the madarsah's be for religious education and none of them claim that those who get into them are in for a 'decent' life the way you seem to be define what is decent. There is hardly any money to be misused but if you let me know your contact I gurantee that those so called secular Muslims who are earning all sorts of money in the schools which are aided by govt. If Indian govt asks Muslims to be having faith in Islam, the lot is going to improve but they never want the problems to go. If Islamic living solves the ills in India as a whole, they apprehend people going the Islam way where many say that consumption of Muslims by Islam is the root problem. Now, also you want the govt interfere in religious affairs. By asking a foothold in social system of education of Islam, they in fact are trying to exclude us from the Public Funding and as it is many policies suffer due to lack of funds which we find are available in abundance for filthy pilgrimages and statues. Are you convince Mr Zia ul Badr or are in que to become some Ahamd Patel or VP of India. If yes, please go your way without pontifying us.
I agree with you with more
I agree with you with more additions.
If minorities or so important....
It the GoI is so concerned about the Muslim why it is dragging feet on many demands of the Muslims. How come the system think that the religious education of only Muslims need to be monitored. I fail to understand what difference it will make if a redundant subject like Hindi is taught as 'modern' subject at the Madarsah. The left over of the Madarsah which is 96% of the population feel discriminated at every place though coming from the so called mainstream system of education, what is the gurantee that the CMB student will not be. If the govt thinks that Muslim should not have Muslim names, what is left to be discussed? It is asking them to change their religion in other words.
If the govt is so bothered, why not put social auditors at the schools aided by the state govts to improve their lot. There are many who are trying to start standard schools but are struggling due to paucity of funds.
By this step, if the intention is to garner votes, there is a surprise. All the hollow steps the system takes are known to the common man and common Indian is sensible and educated enough to read into this game. Instead of solving the problem, the govt want to put forth steps like this and the Sachar report and call of 'first right' from some politcal stage so that no problem is solved. Muslims need standard education and not interference is socially funded Madasrahs. Will someone dare to do the same to the convents and vidya mandirs??
why worried
Why government is worried for 4% people as its established for imparting islamic education so no need to touch them they have to establish Muslim Education Board instead of MDS so rest of the people can benefit and if madarsa people like they can also enroll for it later after successfully comleting their course from the respective madarsa.
Madrasa board
I recommend conversion of all Madrasas to regular secular schools where all other children go. Religious education, if needed, should be provided at home or madrasa specifically for that purpose.
Madrasas, rightfully or wrong, have achieved notoriety as breeding ground of terrorism because of the Pakistan situation.
It is time to think whether MPL has harmed us and made us segregated and ghettoized; instead of propelling us.
L Mirza
You are mentally Langre Mirza. The madaris govt talking about are only religious that is the reason they do not offer any worldly employability. They do not have any help from govt except the intelligence agencies keeping their hawlish eye despite them being not able to defend themselves verbally. The problem with half educated Muslims like you is that you are inward looking and self critical. No weak can have a deal from a surrender.
Why is the govt dragging its feet on Sachar report and not funding schools whereever it wants. I mean people are talking as if the 65% of have not are all Muslims. Come on wake up, do not be ashamed of, it is said, جہاں جاگے وہیں سویرا Oh! sorry you are illeterate I meant, Jahaan jaage waheen sawera.
I totally agree with Dr.
I totally agree with Dr. Shahnavaz. Atleast they can get chance in getting employement, than limiting their abilities to madrasa teachers.
Based on their capabilities they can get reach upto good services ranks.
We should encourage this move by the government.
Ishtiyaq Ahmed.
madrassa board is a must
A madrassa board with the status of CBSC is a must for those who study in madrassas. they could get a certificate equvalant to
Sslc/ Plus two after completing a study period of 10 or 12 years. This certificate will help all madrassa students to became a police constable/ clerk, typist etc. in the main stream other than become a mulla or muaddin or a madrassa teacher. if a student is smart he can go for further studies on the basis of this certificate. More over all madrassas can be affilieated to the board instead of going for affiliation of CBSC, NCERT or state board.
so all should welcome this initiative
madarsa board
Very good suggession
Understanding is needed
Dr SA Srinivas seems to be a doctor out of reading books without comprehension. We have the data about the left over 96% Muslims and their employment in central/state govts all over the country. If you have resolved that Muslims who get a certificate out of the regulated madaris, this shows what is your mentality and plans. You want the rest 96% too be taken off the mainsteam educational system where we spend croses for the IITians who in turn serve outside while majority of India is not having a primary school. You want the Muslims to be fully segregated so that you enjoy their exclusion by this mean as well. Already, the Hindu fault of caste is having its toll because you have reservation for only Hindus, STs/Scs which stems from the fact that you do not want the 2% Muslims who are 100% secular school educated. Instead of working on the many factors which includes lack of educational and municipal facilities by undeclared exclusions all over the country, Mr Sibal is hell bent upon arming the criminal communalist who are overtly Muslim-phobic to attack Muslims. Already by only asking Indian minorities to have first right on resources, there was ruckus, what will happen to the so called grant of say 100 rupees per student to MMB in comparision to 1000 rupees which is paid to secular schools? Though it is just 10%, the communalists will make it an election issue and the system in India is such that nobody is going to make a Hamas out of outfits like BJP and its sister orgs. The proposed step is retrograde and will accelerate the degradation of India.
If India is serious of its development, let it invest in the towns and villages without any discrimination of being a city or populated by certain group of people, Hindus, Muslims or otherwise.
The bottom line is even if we exlcude Muslims from the list of Indians, we find that one of every third person who is poorest of poor is in India. So why so much fuss about Muslims. This act is outrageous and we should find inclusive solution to this National Problem. Lets work for full India Mr Sibal. You are hell bent upon nullifying the achievements of India in one go with abolition of exams and now MMB.
4% vs 96%
It well know that only 4% of young muslim go to Madrasa. so why to bother about them first.
Let us hear some plan for 96% of young Muslms, majority of them are either not going to school or dropping out very early stage of schooling.
4% vs 96%
It well know that only 4% of young muslim go to Madrasa. so why to bother about them first.
Let us hear some plan for 96% of young Muslms, majority of them are either not going to school or dropping out very early stage of schooling.
CMB need a re-look on its structure and function
CMB need a re-look on its structure and function
Submitted by P.M.Pareethu Bava Khan (not verified) on 5 October 2009 - 12:36pm.
The Central Madarsa Board need a re-look on its proposed structure and function. I think that the structure of the proposed board should be decided up on with utmost care. It should be well balanced with competent persons having very clear, right and proactive views on religious as well as main stream education.
The scheme is seen to have been molded to suit the system prevailing in North India. It is to be redesigned to suit the system prevailing in other parts of India also.
The main problem is with regard to the channeling of the fund through State Govt. The smooth flow can be ensured if the funds are routed through Wakf Board, or through District Collectors etc. A state level mechanism can be created with the Wakf Board for monitoring and watching the utilisation of the fund with periodical check up by the officials of the Ministry of Minority Affairs, Govt of India. The system now being followed by the Ministry of Rural Development, GOI can be made applicable here also. The RD Ministry is giving funds directly to DRDAs of the Districts directly through out India.
P.M.Pareethu Bava Khan
Secretary General,
Unity for Social Development, Kerala
Trivandrum
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