Is Gandhian ideology of non violence relevant today?
Yes
58% (93 votes)
No
38% (61 votes)
I do not know
4% (7 votes)
Total votes: 161
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YES. IT IS RELEVANT
FOR THIRTEEN YEARS OUR HOLY PROPHET (s.a.w.s) PRACTISED IN MAKKAH A 'NON-VIOLENT" MOVEMENT TO POPULARIZE ISLAM. FROM THIS, WE CAN INFER THAT IT IS RELEVANT TODAY TOO- PROVIDED IT IS FOLLOED IN AN ISLAMIC MANNER.
S.M.PASHA
The "Humbug" Gandhi
Problems with "bloggers" is that they are out to make a debut in smart rejoinder oblivious of the need for salience, substance, or sheer sincerity! Gandhi was called "Humbug" by the late B.R. Ambedkar for his popular sobriquet of "Mahatma." Arguably, Mohandas was no "Mahatma," a term that was first used by Rabindranath Tagore as a rejoinder to Gandhi's calling the great poet "Gurudev." This was pure social bonhomie and exchange of courtesy between a profound aesthete and an astute political activist. Gandhi was also berated by Sir Winston Churchill as a "half-naked Indian fakir" sometime in 1931 but at the same time recognized politician as a "seditious Middle Temple lawyer" by the Nobel Laureate British statesman. Truly the great Mahatma or the beloved Bapuji of political hagiography is irrelevant today, though Gandhi the visionary of peace (ironically he had to witness a communal bloodbath prior to India's independence helplessly and he succumbed to an assassin's bullet and met with a violent death), however starry-eyed, is a blessing to humanity at all times and in all cultures. Sadly and admittedly, he failed to prescribe an effective panacea against violence, and this is a bitter reality!
GANDHIJI WAS NOT A HUMBUG
ONE MAY AGREE WITH GANDHIJI'S VIEWS OR DISAGREE WITH HIM BUT ONE HAS NO RIGHT TO CALL HIM A 'HUMBUG' FOR HE CALLED A SPADE A SPADE ANT NOT A LITTLE SPOON OR A BIG LADLE. TO THE WISE, JUST A HINT SUFFICES.
S.M.PASHA
Inspiration !
Little wonder ,the great man was inspired by the Prophet of Islam ..just the way several others were.
Dear Gopi Thomas &
Dear Gopi Thomas & others.
While I do not defend Saudi Arabia (birth-place of the Prophet of Islam) nor condemn Gujrat (birth-place of the Father of our Nation),it is interesting to know what Gandiji said about the Prophet:
"I wanted to know the best of the life of one who holds today an undisputed sway over the hearts of millions of mankind.... I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet the scrupulous regard for pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every obstacle. When I closed the second volume (of the Prophet's biography), I was sorry there was not more for me to read of that great life." - Mahatma Gandhi,statement published in 'Young India,'1924.
It was never relevant.
The Gandhian ideology of non-violence was never relevant. Not even back when it was thought to be relevant. The idea that India won it's freedom because of Gandhian ideology of non-violence is to have a simplistic view of history. There is more to India's struggle for freedom than Gandhi.
M.K. Gandhi, the humbug who roamed in the guise of a sanyasi
M.K. Gandhi, the humbug who roamed in the guise of a sanyasi, injected all the dangerous Brahminical values into our veins. It is these values that make us think that Gandhi is a Mahatma. As long as the country goes on calling him a Mahatma we will continue to be steeped in the Brahminic poisonous values.
M K Gandhi the humbug
I would like Mr Anonymus to enumerate Brahminic Values first. Then the Dangerous Brahminic Values and lastly the Brahminic Poisonous values. If I understand correctly, Brahma is God Almighty, The Great, The Good, The Merciful, The Param Atma, the Maha Atma etc.; Brahminic therefore should mean God like. Now if the fellow has the freedom to Believe in God and still believes that A Godly Person like Mahatma Gandhi could inject in us Dangerous Values and steep us in Poisonous Values ?? then I say that this Mr Anonymous is miserable with the freedom and non-violence and democracy etc., he would be better off as a terrorist, a dictator. A man who lives by violence ...... dies violently!!!
Anonymous/shame on you/Gandhiji
Anonymous!
You could make this statement because Gandhiji got freedom for you (or your parents or garndparents depending on ur age).
And for your information, he was not a sanyasi nor a Barhmin -- he was a brahmin by his work of selfless service; but not "birth".
He understood the people and led them without seeking office or position.
Just two weeks ago, Mr Obama, US President, was asked if he could have lunch with any living or dead leaders, whom would he choose -- and his answer was Mahathma Gandhi.
Martin luther King, Mandela led their peopel out of shackles using GAndhian ideology and belief systems.
Now, coming to whatever situation of today that you are referring to -- that is the result of 60 years of mostly stupid way of appeasing by Congress govts; Gandhiji did not design the systems for government, neither participated in the development of teh constitutition. They are all done by people after him. His "karma" was done when we got independence.
You also are responsible for whatever sorry affairs we are in. HAve yyou started a grass roots movement in your town or community to rectify whatever your complaint is..
U should be glad that u r living in a country where u have the freedom. If you wwere in Saudi Arabia you would have been beheaded. If you were in Egypt you would have been in jail. So, lso in many other countries.
Gopi
Mr Thomas how can you guess the relegion of the Anonymous and bring Saudi Arabia or Egypt into this? Had you be living in Zimbabwe or Nigeria or Columbia or Rwanda or Bosnia or Gujarat you might not even be alive today.
I support you in your berating of this guy on his comments about Gandhiji but I think your reaction in the last paragraph of your reply is also totally deplorable. Remember that two wrongs do not make a right.
By the way in Saudi Arabia people are beheaded only for drug traficking and murder. The situation in our country would be much better today if we have such laws. I know about Saudi Arabia becoause I lived there for more than 10 years and have first hand experience of that country unlike many others who form their opinions sitting on their living room couches.
Mumtaz/freedom
I did not guess his religiuon. I was using Saudi Arabia and Egypt as examples of countries where there are no freedoms,and especially , they put people in jail for criticizing ruling family or people in power. If you think Saudi Arabia is beacon of freedom, hey, everybody ahs his own opinion! You may be a population of one who thinks Saudi Arabia has freedom..I know even friday sermons are censored so that Mullas dont utter anything against the State.
I may be wrong on beheading on criticism. I know they do public behanging and stoning for many crimes.
60 years of Hindu rule - India ranked 122 out of 133 in peace
A Golbal Peace Index was published with a ranking of countries from the most peaceful to the most violent. The peaceful nature relates both to the country's internal state and also its interaction with other states.
Here are the top 10 nations out of 121.
1.New Zealand
2.Denmark
3.Norway
4.Iceland
5.Austria
6.Sweden
7.Japan
8.Canada
9.Finland
10.Slovenia
Here are the bottom 11 nations out of 121.
122.India
123.South Africa
124.Mauritania1
125.Sri Lanka
126.Myanmar
127.Burundi
128.Ethiopia
129.Nigeria
130.Colombia1
131.North Korea
132.Lebanon
See the link for the measuring criteria and analysis.
Here is Anti Chaddhiwala's analysis
The rankings show many predictable features.
Norway comes the top out of 132 nations. It is a country known for being a peaceful state, its citizens and governments are responsible, it is a country that gives 1% of GDP as aid with no political strings attached, and it has tried to arrange peace between other countries and warring groups. It deserves its position.
Iraq is at the bottom. It is a country at war, so that is no surprise. It would not have been in that position otherwise.
The U.S. is at 83 out of 133 ! It might surprise but it should not. Internally citizens in the U.S. are not safe due to their gun culture. Externally, the U.S. has a record of waging wars on false pretexts.
Where is India ? Its rank is 122 out of 133 ! It is the correct position. I have mentioned to Gopi it is a pseudo-democracy. It is a country where citizens are murdered by police in fake encounters, where politicians organize pogroms to get elected, where caste and communal violence are routine. There is no trust between citizens, and between citizens and organs of the state. Kashmir and Assam are ruled by the army and the gun. India has territorial disputes with Pakistan and China.
Gopi Thomas tells us the Hindu curve is going up. When the Hindu curve goes up, India goes down ! Look at the countries that became independent after India, see where they are – Malaysia, Singapore, Korea and others.
Many of the Muslim countries who Gopi derides are ranked higher than India in the peace index – Oman is 22, Qatar is 16, Kuwait is 42 ! Out of 57 Muslim countries, the majority come above India.
So what has 60 years of Hindu rule done for India ?
The reason India will remain in this position is the Hindu mentality. Instead of creating situations where Godhra and Gujarat do not occur again, they think it was a successful experiment, and they will do more of it !
This the thinking of the sort of people who rule India.
http://www.visionofhumanity.org/gpi/results/rankings/2009/
And earlier, Gopi you were boasting about the Hindu curve going up.
Now, you sound considerably downbeat.
What is the matter Gopi ? When debating with Anti Chaddhiwala, you don't whether your dhoti is bound or unbound !
If peace is the criterion, your Hindu party, the BJP, brought the culture of mob rule and bomb blasts to India. So what are you talking about ?
India deserves its place at the bottom. It is a country where citizens do not have security, where people are murdered according to caste and community, where to win an election, politicians organise a riot, and where some states are ruled by army.
Is this not the reality ?
I notice from your tone that you recognise the reality, but you find it difficult to face it.
Unless the Hindus show better performance, would it be wrong in saying Hindus are incompetent ?
You should be thinking how Hindus could improve so that they could be good managers of India.
No thomas idiot he does not
No thomas idiot he does not want to say that. He means that Saudi is much more peaceful that anyplace specially compared to India. Why you biased sicko bring freedom everywhere. Millions of your Mallu christians go and make money and funny thing is that these christian lady wear Hijab and say salam like everybody else. I know u guys can stoop to any level to earn Money and when u come bak Indian u start talking about religious freedom. For guys when it is money it is good..Why do u go there when u dont like it so giving indian muslim more chances to earn better!!
Look at the Nepal How peaceful and developing was it until it had Kingdom, there were lot of restrictions but people were living peaceful.Not like today where the country is in tha hands of pigs!!
Hey thomas, Bringing out
Hey thomas, Bringing out examples of lack of religious freedom only from muslim country shows that how biased you are.
Yes Thomas; exactly for that
Yes Thomas; exactly for that reason Saudi Arabia has one of the lowest crime rate; FYI ... I also lived there for more than 7 years.
non violence
violence..... violence se kabhi khatam nahi howa. violence ke khatme ke liye non violence ka hi sahara lene parta hai. that's why aaj bhi gandhi ji ka rasta atal hai, relevant hai and mushkil hone ke baad bhi easy hai. l
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