Mumbai attack: Terrorists spoke Marathi?
By Abdul Hameed, TwoCircles.net
Mumbai: It is somehow surprising to learn that the terrorists in Cama hospital in Mumbai were fluently speaking Marathi. The terrorists who are said to have fired in Cama hospital talked to an employee clad in civil dress in Marathi, reports a Marathi daily 'Maharashtra Times'.
The newspaper said the terrorists who targeted ATS chief Hemant Karkare, police commissioner Ashok Kamte and encounter specialist Vijay Salaskar were speaking Marathi fluently.
The newspaper claims the terrorists having fired at two watchmen in uniform asked the other beside them on gunpoint in Marathi, 'You are here an employee?' The employee caught the legs of the terrorist and said, 'I am not working here. My wife has suffered from heart attack and I have come here to admit her.' The terrorist asked him again in Marathi, 'You are speaking true or false?' The employee answered, 'No, by God I am speaking true.'
On this the terrorist let him go.
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SOLUTION OF INDIA
SOLUTION OF INDIA PROBLEM
Muslims are involved in Kashmir and few incidents all over the country. Who is involved in Northeast, Jharkhand, Bihar, Maharashtra, Anshra Pradesh and Chhatisgarh, West Bengal etc.
Solution for India
India is a country composed of A large number of minorities concetrated in certain areas
we have seen how The indian State Sponsored Terrorism has hit the Sikhs in Punjab (dehli the 1984 roits)
The Christians in Orisa
and The muslims in Gujrat and Bombay.
secessionist movement in Mani pur, Assam, Khalistan, Kashmir, Nagaland and 104 and so separatist movements there
the separatist movement and the state sponsored terrorism against them
The Indian state sponsorship of KHI the rebel group in burma
The indian Support for the Tamil Tigers
Indian Financial and Armament for TTP (Tanzeem-e-Taliban-e-Pakistan) by providing them the Milan rockets
Indian Arms support for Balauchistan Liberation Front
and Indias issues with China and Bangladesh over territory as well as rivers.
i think we can clearly see where the problem lies.. the Country of Hindustan (india) is a land of the Hindus... and its ideology directly conflicts its Constitutional "SELF" being created on secular grounds and the Hindu ideology of Shudi and Hindutava therefore the only proper solution for this country is to accept the demands of the secessionist movements and allow either autonomy or a separate nation to all different nations within India holding different ideologies
AS FOR ISLAM AS THE ROOT OF TERRORISM:
the reason for terrorist or (freedom) movements in around the world and them perticularly being Muslim is that
Most of these countries
Somalia, Afghanistan, Chechnya, Bosnia, Kashmir, Palestine , Daghistan , Iraq
are all ocupied by forgien forces or are being ruled by puppet regimes that do not reflect the thought or consent of the people of that country.
lets not forget that in 1857 and latter we were all fighting for the indipendence of India and we were all called terrorists
names like Bhagat sing, Maulana Azad, Ghandi, Nehru were in the lines of seperatists and terrorists. muslims and hindus and christians and sikhs of india were all fighting in the same ranks untill the election sof 1939
which allowed All india Congress (although secular but prodominantly Hindu) party.
that started establishing Hindutva concepts
such as Vand-e-matram
the shudi and sangrathan movements
the forcing of Hindi over all citizins of india that led to a language conflict.
"YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THE BACKDROP BEFORE UNDERSTANDING THE WHOLE PICTURE"
SOLUTION OF INDIA PROBLEM
YOU MUSLIMS SHOULD BE THROWN OUT OF INDIA.
YOU MULTIPLY LIKE RABBITS.
NEHRU CREATED A BLUNDER BY KEEPING YOU IN INDIA
YOU SHOULD BE THROWN OUT SO THAT WE GET RID OF ISLAMIC TERRORISM
Rubbish
I disagree that Muslims should be thrown out. I say that as a Hindu. I believe that as a secular country, we can bring everyone into the mainstream and be more powerful because of our differences.
Muslims are as Indian as anyone else. They ought to be treated with the respect they deserve as human beings (just as Hindus should.)
(No subject)
"If we do go to war, psychological operations are going to be absolutely a
critical, critical part of any campaign that we must get involved in":
General H. Norman Schwarzkopf
"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people
from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus
becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent,
for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the
greatest enemy of the State.":
Joseph Goebbels - Goebbels was Hitler's Minister of Propaganda
Saffron Sarkaar Raj
India headed towards Hindu Fascism
Mosque in Parbhani, Maharashtra, where a bomb explosion left many injured, in
december 2003. Naresh Kondwar and Himanshu Phanse of Bajrang Dal, who were killed
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while making bombs in Nanded in April 2006, were allegedly responsible for bombing
the mosque.
Backdrop:
'Samjhauta, Hindi for friendship, Express' is only one of many CBM's that have been
undertaken by the two countries to improve relations, was initiated to increase people
to people to contact between the two arch rivals. On February 17,2007, the train that
travels from Delhi to Lahore was hit by a bomb, killing as many as 68 people. Most of the
casualties consisted of Pakistani nationals. Many conspiracy theories were hatched in
an attempt to explain what had really gone by.
Indian authorities and the media were quick to assert that the evidence
overwhelmingly pointed towards Pakistan and ISI. With the immediate release of
sketches of the suspects, it seemed that Indians had it all figured out. For Pakistan it was
nothing more than a feeling of déjà vu; India is known to have a history of blaming
Pakistan and ISI for the smallest of occurrences in India, hardly ever backing it up with
any credible evidence. And so when in 2006 Malegaon, a town in the Nashik district of
the Indian state of Maharashtra, located at some 290 km to the northeast of state
capital Mumbai, was rattled by a series of bombings, the blame was put on groups
having links with Pakistan and Bangladesh. The Maharashtra Police blamed the Student
Islamic Movement of India, further linking them to Lashkar-e-Taiba and in turn the ISI.
The unlikely twist surfaced recently in India with the arrests of 10 people, including a
serving Lieutenant Colonel Prashad Srikant Purohit, a Hindu monk and nun for their
alleged involvement in bomb explosions that killed six people in the Muslim-dominated
town of Malegaon this year. So far, ten people, including a self-proclaimed Hindu seer
and a serving lieutenant colonel, have been arrested for their involvement in the Sep 29
bombing. Besides Purohit, of the accused also include Sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur,
Shivnarayan Singh Kalsangram, Shyam Bhawarlal Sahu, Major Ramesh Shivji Upadhyay
(retd), Sameer Kulkarni, Rakesh Dattaram Dhavde and Ajay Rahirkar. The suspicion is
now directed at the extremist Hindu movement Sangh Parivar, a network linked to a
former Major, and now in custody, Ramesh Upadhyay who represents the terrorist
organization, Abhinav Bharat.
The chilling part of the entire episode is the involvement of accused Lt Col Purohit in
bomb attack on the Samjhauta Express to which he confessed. During investigation Col
Purohit has also confessed to training Hindu terrorists for attacking Muslims, besides
training them for attacking Samjhauta Express for which he had also supplied them
RDX. He further confessed that it was intended to cause armed conflict between
Pakistan and India so that anti-Muslim passions could be nurtured in India, leading to
violence.
The Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS) claimed that Purohit supplied RDX to one “Bhagwan” for
Samjhauta Express blast. Public prosecutor Ajay Misar said Abhinav Bharat’s treasurer
Ajay Rahirkar had handed Rs2.5 lakh to Lt Col P S Purohit.
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Mahant Amritanand Dev alias Dayanand Pandey, the self-styled pontiff who was
arrested from Kanpur has revealed that it was under his instructions that Lt. Colonel
Shrikant Purohit procured RDX from an army depot that was used in the Malegaon
blast. According to reports Pandey was present in all the pre-blast meetings in Bhopal,
Jabalpur and Faridabad, monitored operations meticulously and was also responsible
for arranging the finances that came in through illegal channels. It is believed that
Pandey, a dropout from the National Defence Academy, collaborated with two other
accused who are presently on the run - Ramji Kalsangara, who allegedly planted the
motorcycle owned by the Hindu ascetic Pragya Singh Thakur in Malegaon, and Sameer
Dange.
The suspects have also been questioned for May 2007 blast at Mecca Masjid in
Hyderabad and the April 2006 twin blasts at New Delhi's Jama Masjid. In the Mecca
Masjid blasts as many as 14 people were killed and over 50 injured. The case was
investigated by the city police special wing and was later handed over to the Central
Bureau of Investigation which could not come to any conclusion. Investigations into the
Samjhauta Express explosion and the Jama Masjid blast also failed to make headway
and police could not across on any tangible leads.
Police have already established a strong link between Pandey and some of the
suspects in the Kanpur blast case through surveillance. On Aug 24, two members of the
right-wing Bajrang Dal were killed there while assembling bombs.
After the arrest of Panday police is expecting to get some breaking clues in the 2006
Nanded blasts in Maharashtra as well.
The arrests have reinforced growing suspicions over the last few years of a potential
threat from Hindu extremists.
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Infiltration of Hindu Fascists in Army?
Interrogation of Major (retd.) Ramesh Upadhyay unearthed that the Bhonsla Military
School in Nashik was used as a training ground by the conspirators. The school has
denied its involvement in the blast but it is under the scanner for allowing Bajrang Dal
activists to hold training sessions in the use of arms and martial arts.
The school’s links to the RSS is an open secret as it was founded by B.S. Moonje, who
was Savarkar’s close friend and who assisted in creating the RSS.
The arrest of the serving army officers and former officers’ link to the recent terror
activities points towards a worrisome notion; of the deep infiltration of fundamentalist
ideas into Indian army. The critics believe that the constant indoctrination of Hindutva
ideology over decades by the VHP, the RSS, the Bajrang Dal and the BJP has resulted in
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this kind of violence, which has found its way into crucial state institutions like police
force, army and the education departments.
Ram Punyani, secretary of the All India Secular Forum and a human rights activist, said
that the deep and widespread ideological indoctrination began years ago but was
propagated systematically during the National Democratic Alliance (NDA) regime.
It placed its members in the bureaucracy, particularly in the education department,
and in the cultural arena. “RSS people who once headed a department may have
retired, but they have ensured that the damage continues, as they would have hired a
number of like-minded people. So you can imagine how deep the penetration is. It will
take generations to root this out,” said Punyani.
It is a well known fact that once George Fernandes had asked the army chief, the Air
Marshal, and the Admiral to report the Kargil war to MPs. When the three obliged to the
given orders and the place where meeting was planned , it was the party office of BJ.
This is how the Saffron Brigade interferes in the affairs of the armed forces, blatantly.
The involvement of serving lieutenant colonel of the Indian army in blasts and in the
supplying of 60 kg of RDX for terrorist activities, further casts a shadow over the
credibility of the army.
In the past BJP has been offering tickets to the former army officers, (many of them are
former generals) for contesting elections for Lok Sabha on behalf of the party and to an
extent it has been successful in wooing them. One such retiree is the chief minister of
Uttarakhand B C Khanduria retired Major General. Another retired officer Sabyasachi
Bagchi who is member of BJP proudly praises the RSS for having developed the
character of young people.
SS Raikar of Bhonsla military school, a retired army officer, is believed to have allowed
the school premises to be used as a den for making terror schemes and devising
conspiracies, besides facilitating arms training and providing accommodation.
The former governor of Jammu and Kashmir Lt General (Rtd) S K Sinha is alleged to
have allowed Dyanand Padey to stay in the official residence. Daynand Pandey was
hosted by him in Raj Bhawan and the two had held a meeting in a famous temple in
Kashmir.
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RDX and Army connection: (Chilling clues)
Lt Col P S Purohit who provide RDX Samjhota Train blasts and also being interrogated for
other bomb blasts in India.
On September two, 2006, Indian police in Ahmednagar seized about 195 kg of cocktail
of explosives that included RDX from a local scrap dealer Shankar Shelke which was
procured by him from Army Ordnance decommissioned as scrap.
A mobile phone from which he had made over 150 calls was also recovered and
during investigation it was found that he had got a cellular connection on a fake
name, adding to his already dubious profile.
However, before police could arrest him, Shelke allegedly committed suicide and his
employee could not provide any details about him. The case was closed as a suicide,
with no further investigation.
The investigations into how the RDX reached some right wing groups allegedly
responsible for Malegaon explosions, led to this forgotten case of suicide of Shankar
Shelk. Some leads are now emerging that the deadly RDX could have been pilfered
during such decommissioning of scrap from the Army.
In the past the law enforcing agencies of India have failed to find out the origin of such
explosive used in different blasts, especially in Maharashtra where Bajrang Dal had
been imparting explosive and arms training to its activists.
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Who is financing 'Hinduvta Terror?'
According to ATS, the money needed to finance these plots is generally collected by a
self-styled religious leader hailing from Gujarat. According to reports the probe into links
of Hindu outfits, accused of terrorism, with Army men brought a few business houses
under the examination of Maharashtra's ATS and Central Security agencies,
investigating the finances of the group supposedly responsible for Malegaon blast.
Sources attached with the probe said that a religious leader from Southern Gujarat was
one of those who collected funds from the business houses. According to some other
reports foreign funds were used in Malegaon attack.
Reportedly huge amounts of money collected in the US go into the accounts of VHP
and other conglomerates of RSS. Sonal Shah and her father Ramesh have been in the
core group of VHPA [America] and have been instrumental in sending fund under the
name of Eklavya Vidyalaya for backward tribals.
Although the human rights organizations of India complaint that these funds were not
used for the backward tribals.
It is also believed that finds collected from abroad by saffron brigade were used in the
recent-anti Christian riots in Kanthamal of Orissa and other parts of India and in 2002
against the Muslims of Gujarat. The backward community of Charras was roped in by
the RSS to wreak vengeance on the Muslims by slaughtering them. This confession is
caught on camera. There is no audit of this fund collected by saffron from US and
western countries.
BJP lacks moral fiber -- indulges in double talk.
The BJP connection:
With the surfacing of the connection between Army personnel, BJP and the terror
activities, the party too has come under heavy scrutiny. Sensing the gravity of the
matter and possible questioning in connection with the Malegaon bombings, Bharatiya
Janata Party (BJP) MP Yogi Adityanath refused to assist in the investigations.
"I dare the police to arrest me and I will offer no help in their probe," he added, amid
reports that he was likely to be questioned in connection with Malegaon.
The BJP and its allied Hindu extremist groups are also questioning the investigation and
blamed that it was an attempt to malign these groups. They further announced to
defend Pragya Singh (Sadhvi) who has confessed her role in the bombing, and to
provide her legal help. BJP Initially denied any association with Pragya Singh but later
supported her. Maharashtra Chief Minister Vilasrao Deshmukh also accused that those
parties that once sought lethal POTA (Prevention of Terrorism Act) charges framed
against suspects from minority communities were now asking the government to go
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easy on the Hindu right-wing extremists.The probe after arrest of Sadhvi and Col Purohit
led to Adityanath, the successor of Mahant Avaidyanath of the Gorakhpur Temple
Trust, who is believed to be responsible for the BJP's foothold in eastern Uttar Pradesh
and is also known for his Hindu awakening rallies.
He justified the attack on churches in Orissa following the killing of a Vishwa Hindu
Parishad (VHP) leader. "The Hindu reaction (after the killing of the priest) is justified and it
is high time that the Hindus should pick up weapons just like our gods and goddesses
adorn weapons," had said.
Adityanath has been active in reconverting other religious groups, particularly the lowcaste
converts to Christianity, back into the Hindu fold. In 2005, a large group of 1,800
people were converted in the town of Etah.
Pragya Singh (Sadhvi) who confesses her role in bombing
BJP's sudden romance with Pakistan
With emergence of Hindu terrorism, BJP which usually does not nurture good opinions
about Pakistan much less support India's friendly relations with her, on November 19 said
that Indian police probe into an army officer’s alleged role in the Samjhauta Express
blasts among other terror attacks could harm talks with Pakistan
BJP spokesman Ravi Shanker Prasad was quoted by Indian media as saying, “The
juvenile investigations would encourage jihadi elements in Pakistan and would have an
effect on the talks between the two countries which are due in the last week of this
month.”
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“There is a risk of Pakistan seeking a review of the entire terrorist attacks in which India
had alleged a Pakistani hand”, he said adding “The morale of the Indian Army should
be protected at all costs.” And further, “The ATS theory would give Pakistan an
opportunity to prove that India is involved in sponsoring anti-Pakistan campaign on
terror,”
Reaction of Hindu religious leaders:
Hindu religious leaders are now uniting and some of them met in Panipat on Sunday
November 16th to form a Dharam Sangrakshan Samiti to defend the blast accused,
from the allegations leveled by the Maharashtra Anti-Terrorism Squad. In Panipat, the
Sangh Parivar demonstrated its united resolve to fight for those accused of terrorism.
The Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) now plans to hold a massive rally of religious leaders
on November 26 to demonstrate their support for those accused of a connection in the
blast.
Reaction of the Hinduvta leaders (Excerpts)
There was a National debate in India as India was reminded of the spreading of Hindu
terror in India, in the face of these investigations. This is the summary of the same.
“When Hindu leaders are accused of killing innocent people and indulging in terror acts
isn't it time to do aatmachintan (introspection) just as they want the Muslin leaders to
do when Muslim youths are accused of being involved in terror acts. Govindacharya
(RSS) claimed that the government has been ignoring the Hindus and such terror acts
only reflect the frustration in the society.
"Hindu Samaj has definitely done the aatmachintan and this kind of emotional outburst
are the result of such aatmachintan. There are two reasons: First when Hindu samaj
(society) feels that there is no government that takes care of their interests and feelings
then such outburst are a natural consequence though undesirable.
Similarly when the legitimate established organizations espousing the cause of Hindu
society apply double standards to their own convictions and they are not honest about
their concern of large section of Hindu society, then definitely the Hindus do the
aatmachintan and the result is mushrooming of such outfits."
BJP President Rajnath Singh said that Hindu saints were being maligned and VHP's
Praveen Togadia says a Hindu can never be a terrorist. Contrary to this, a completely
opposite stance to this is taken by the BJP when Muslim politicians are the subject of
discussion, particularly in this context.
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“Gandhiji also said ‘politics without religious values is of no use to me'. He meant the
Dharma. Dharma needs to be in politics otherwise it will become immoral” Singh
argued.
Dipankar Gupta argued that BJP can never ever rid itself of its Hindutva agenda. "When
you come down to the wire, the defining characteristic of the BJP is Hindutva. It can
occasionally take on other issues as well like economic regeneration but everybody is
talking about that. So what's different about the BJP? The difference is Hindutva. So
when push comes to shove, their Hindutva colours come out."
Conclusion:
Chaos and fear continues to haunt India as the poor continue to pay with their
flesh and blood, for a senseless war that has been imposed on them by the followers of
a violent ideology .More arrests are expected in the coming weeks as the frightening
dimensions of a radical Hindu terror plot starts to unravel, with investigators indicating
that it had the makings of a larger conspiracy and planning of reprisal killings of Muslims
for serial bombings in a number of Indian cities.
Indian analysts are now worried about Hindu terrorism. Some of it has been on display
for a long time against the Muslim community. Some of it is recent; targeting Christian
missionaries and Christian converts. Because of the rise of Hindu fundamentalism in the
1980s, which saw a revival of old Hindu supremacist thinkers like Savarkar, who was
behind the killing of Gandhi, India is now open to terrorism that is lashing out at the
state. People are accustomed to voting the BJP to power as an alternative to the
Congress and that in turn empowers the grand Hindu fundamentalist alliance called
the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) that contains such extremist outfits as Bajrang Dal.
A common sense conclusion would be that these acts of terrorism are aimed at
creating a communal divide in India, to fulfill the ultimate dream of the Hindu Raj over
India. A country where mosques are bombed, army men like Colonel Purohit join hands
with radical groups like Swami Dayanand Pandey to unleash terror at the expense of
innocent lives of their own countrymen is a country that has failed to her own people,
let alone by taken as a model of democracy to be followed by the rest of the world.
It is high time India should take lead from the situation in her neighboring country where
fundamentalists are on the rampage and blowing innocents into piece.
Before it is too late to root out Hindu Talibanization from Indian society, which is growing
fast as Machiavelli said “By being on the spot one sees trouble at its birth and one can
quickly remedy it; not being there one hears about it after it has grown and there is no
longer any remedy.”
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Part 2 - The Mumbai Drama – untold story
Who did it?
“It is essential that we strike and crush Pakistanis, enemies of
Jews and Zionism, by all disguised and secret plans,”
David Ben Gurion, first prime minister of Zionist entity.
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Despite the fact that Indian media and the government is blaming Pakistani militants for
the attacks, certain interesting facts have come to light already which clearly indicates
that Hindu groups of radicals from BJP, RSS and Shev sena, in collaboration with Indian
Military Intelligence officials were involved in orchestrating the massacre.
Let’s list the known facts so far: Most of the sources are from Indian media themselves.
1. Within 15 minutes of the attacks, three top Police officers from
the anti-Terror squad were shot by the attackers. Those three
officers were the ones who were investigating the case against
Indian Military Intelligence for their involvement in domestic
terrorism as mentioned in part 1 of this report.
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IN THE LINE OF DUTY
Karkare has been leading the investigation into the Malegaon blast. His death is bound
to affect the probe, which is ongoing.
2. The Terrorists who killed the Police officers were speaking
Marathi, a local Hindu language.
Mumbai attack: Terrorists spoke Marathi?
29 November 2008
http://www.twocircles.net/2008nov29/mumbai_attack_terrorists_spoke_marat...
Mumbai: It is somehow surprising to learn that the terrorists in Cama hospital in Mumbai
were fluently speaking Marathi. The terrorists who are said to have fired in Cama
hospital talked to an employee clad in civil dress in Marathi, reports a Marathi daily
'Maharashtra Times'.
The newspaper said the terrorists who targeted ATS chief Hemant Karkare, police
commissioner Ashok Kamte and encounter specialist Vijay Salaskar were speaking
Marathi fluently.
The newspaper claims the terrorists having fired at two watchmen in uniform asked the
other beside them on gunpoint in Marathi, 'You are here an employee?' The employee
caught the legs of the terrorist and said, 'I am not working here. My wife has suffered
from heart attack and I have come here to admit her.' The terrorist asked him again in
Marathi, 'You are speaking true or false?' The employee answered, 'No, by God I am
speaking true.'
On this the terrorist let him go.
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3. The terrorists consumed alcohol and bought bottles of beer
before embarking on “martyrdom” operations. No Muslim on
earth would do this just before his death. This is a BBC report!!!
Reports also suggests they were fair skinned, even blonde
haired!!!
“Locals say the orgy of killings in Mumbai began here. Three men walked into the cafe,
drank beer, settled their bills and walked out. Then they fished out guns from their bags
and began firing.
Gaffar Abdul Amir, an Iraqi tourist from Baghdad, says he saw at least two men who
started the firing outside the Leopold Cafe.
He was returning to his hotel from the seaside with a friend when he saw two men
carrying bags and brandishing AK-47s walking in front of them, shooting.
"They did not look Indian, they looked foreign. One of them, I thought, had blonde hair.
The other had a punkish hairstyle. They were neatly dressed," says Mr Amir.
As the two girls fell near the cafe, he saw the two men quickening their steps towards
the Taj Mahal hotel further up the road.
A few minutes later, gunfire was heard from the hotel, and much later, Mr Amir heard
that gunmen had taken guests hostage”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7752625.stm
4. The Terrorists were wearing yellow bands in their hands which
are a revered Hindu sign for good luck and blessings.
Muslim Terrorist?? Notice the yellow wrist band, a Hindu sign. He is too calm casual for
an outsider attacker on a rampage. They had consumed alcohol and beer before
embarking on killing spree !
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For comparison see pictures below.
Note the similar yellow wrist band of Hindu radicals at another location and time. This is the man,
a terrorist of Bajrang Dal who with that weapon in his hand had split/pierced the womb of the
Muslim woman in Gujrat in 2002 and slaughtered her unborn baby as well with her with this same
weapon. The picture with the weapon having blood on it was published by press then.
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5. The widow of the slain Police officer refuses to accept
compensation from BJP, accusing them of being involved in
murder of her husband. The officer was receiving death threats
for the past many weeks ever since he had started the
investigations.
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Karkare's wife declines 'Modi's compensation' offer
Nov 29, 2008
http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Karkare--s-wife-declines---Modi-...
offer/392207/
Mumbai The family of slain Maharashtra ATS chief Hemant Karkare has declined
Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi's offer of monetary help, sources said on
Saturday. Modi on Friday visited the residences of Karkare and encounter
specialist Vijay Salaskar, who were killed while fighting militants on Wednesday
night.
Modi also announced that his government would give Rs 1 crore to Maharashtra for the
families of policemen killed in the attacks.
Karkare's widow and other family members have declined Modi's offer, the sources
said.
14 Maharashtra police personnel, including two IPS officers, sacrificed their lives while
fighting terrorists.
6. Top Indian Journalists are suggesting a clear nexus between
Israeli Mossad and Indian Military Intelligence and RSS gangs.
The terror was waged in Mumbai to get rid of the Police officer
conducting this investigation.
Now we would give a timeline and opinions of various top journalists
and global media as the situation continued to unfold during and
after the crisis. As part of the disinformation war, the proof and signs
that this was a false flag black operation by Mossad and RAW is
being deliberately ignored.
On the night of attack, renowned Indian writer Amaresh Misra wrote
following words.
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Mumbai Terror Attacks: The Mossad Angle
They killed Hemant Karkare, chief of the police anti-terrorist squad in Mumbai, to send a
message that you cannot investigate the Mossad-RSS angle
by Amaresh Misra
MUMBAI, INDIA 4:00AM -- Mumbai is under attack. People and forces who killed
Mahatama Gandhi, who demolished the Babari Mosque have triumphed. More than
16 groups of terrorists have taken over Taj, Oberai and several hotels. Hundreds of
people are dead. For the first time no one is blaming Muslim organizations. The Mumbai
ATS chief Hemant Karkare and other officers of the ATS have been killed. These were
the same people who were investigating the Malegaon Blasts - in which Praggya Singh,
an army officer and several other noted personalities of the BJP-RSS-Bajrang Dal-VHP
were arrested. Karkare was the man to arrest them. Karkare was receiving threats from
several quarters. LK Advani, the BJP chief and several other prominent leaders of the socalled
Hindu terrorism squad were gunning for his head. And the first casualty in the
terrorist attack was Karkare! He is dead - gone - the firing by terrorists began from
Nariman House - which is the only building in Mumbai inhabited by Jews. Some Hindu
Gujaratis of the Nariman area spoke live on several TV channels - they openly said that
the firing by terrorists began from Nariman house. And that for two years suspicious
activities were going on in this house. But no one took notice.
Our worst fears have come true. It is clear that Mossad is involved in the whole affair. An
entire city has been attacked by Mossad and probably units of mercenaries. It is not
possible for one single organization to plan and execute such a sophisticated
operation. It is clear that this operation was backed by communal forces from within
the Indian State. The Home Minister Shivraj Patil should resign. The RSS-BJP-VHP-Bajrang
Dal should be banned. Advani and others ought to be arrested. Today is a day of
shame for all Indians and all Hindus. Muslims and secular Hindus have been proven
right. RSS type forces and Israel are all involved in not only destabilizing but finishing
India. India should immediately snap all relations with Israel. We owe this much to
Karkare and the brave ATS men who had shown the courage to arrest Praggya Singh,
Raj Kumar Purohit, the army officer and several others.
A photograph published in Urdu Times, Mumbai, clearly shows that Mossad and ex-
Mossad men came to India and met Sadhus and other pro-Hindutva elements recently.
A conspiracy was clearly hatched. This is a moment of reckoning especially for Hindus
of India. The killers of Gandhi have struck again.
If we are true Sanatanis and true Hindus and true nationalists and true patriots we have
to see this act as a clear attack by anti-national deshdrohi forces. Praggya Singh,
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Advani and the entire brand is anti-national. They ought to be shot. Any Hindu siding
with them is hereafter warned of serious consequences.
This is a question of nationalism. If no one else, the Indian army will not take this lying
down. Communal, anti-national forces have attacked the very foundation of the Indian
constitution and the nation. We will fight a civil war if need be against the pro-Hindutva,
communal forces and their Israeli backers.
---
Dr. Amaresh Misra is an historian/journalist. His most recent book "War of Civilizations:
India AD 1857" was released in March 2008 by the Vice President of India Shri Mohd.
Hamid Ansari.
Enver Masud, "5,000 Killed, 50,000 Homeless in India 'Pogrom'," The Wisdom Fund, March
16, 2002
"Godhra bogie was burnt from inside: Report," Times of India, July 3, 2002
Rama Lakshmi, "Hindus Detail Involvement In Deadly '02 Riots in India On Video,
Assailants Tell of State Collusion," Washington Post, October 26, 2008
Rama Lakshmi, "In India, Controversy Over Hindus' Arrests: Terrorism Case Sets Off
Politicking, Protests," Washington Post, November 24, 2008
"Mumbai rocked by deadly attacks," BBC News, November 27, 2008
Paul Joseph Watson, "Mumbai Attacks Blamed On Al-Qaeda As Pretext For U.S. Military
Response," prisonplanet.com, November 27, 2008
Timeline:
There is a very definite timeline of events which lead
to Mumbai drama. Indian Zionists were under severe
pressure as their cadre was being arrested by ATS
Chief Kurkure and the fascists had to retaliate in
quick time before more of their top leaders were
arrested. Just watch the timeline of events. It makes
some fascinating analysis.
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November 12, 2008, (Wednesday): New Delhi/Mumbai
Self styled spiritual guru Dayanand Pandey alias Swami
Amritanand Dev was arrested by Maharashtra Anti-
Terrorism Squad (ATS) in Kanpur in connection with the
September 29 Malegaon bomb blast.
November 13th, 2008 (Thursday): New Delhi: Gujarat
Police have arrested a woman for the first time in a case
related to the 2002 Gujarat riots. Gita Rathod has been
arrested for her role in the infamous Naroda Patia riots of
2002. She was arrested by a Special Investigation Team (SIT).
November 14th: Media reported arrest of Lt Col Purohit
and his confession regarding provision of IED for
bombing Samjhota Express train and Malagon blasts.
November 15th: Indian media was littered with news
of more arrests of Hindu terrorists in connection with
bomb blasts in India. Media reported “Hindu extremists
involved in Malegaon blasts may also be behind Ajmer and
Samjhauta Express blasts, sources have told NDTV.
They say Aseemanand, Dayanand and Sadhvi Pragya Singh
Thakur met at Shabari Kumbh at Dangs.
The group then began to meet regularly to plan attacks.
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Police also suspect the group could be behind the Ajmer
dargah blast in February 2007.
The man who planted Ajmer bomb was killed by the group.
They may also be behind Samjhauta Express blast, sources
say. Leaders of mainstream Hindutva groups were aware of
their activities, they add.
The development comes even as Lt Colonel Prasad Purohit,
the first serving Indian Army officer to be held in a terrorrelated
case, has reportedly confessed to his role in the
Malegaon blast during his narco-analysis test in Bangalore.”
November 24th : Pune: An anonymous caller, who used a
public call office, to contact the Pune police, threatened to
blow up the residence of Mumbai Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS)
Chief Hemant Karkare "within a couple of days", a top
official confirmed today (November 26th)
November 27th/28th: Karkare was killed during Mumbai
shootout by unknown gunmen at Cama Hospital. Sources
close to Indian intelligence and investigators claim that
Karkare was killed by a 9mm bullet weapons which are
used by Indian police.
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An Israeli and Jewish house was also part of the drama. Let’s see what is the
history of these Jewish centres in criminal and terrorist activity around the world. !
So, we know that Chabad houses were Mossad HQ’s. !!!
Chabad Houses have history of criminal
activity
By: Wayne Madsen on:
29.11.2008 [17:22 ] (48 reads)
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/articles/20081129
November 29-30, 2008 — Mumbai gangland war and its global tentacles
WMR previously reported that the violent and bloody attack on Mumbai represents a
pay-back from exiled Indian Muslim Mumbai gangland warlord Dawood Ibrahim who
fears that the CIA was conspiring with the Pakistani government to extradite him from
Pakistan to India. Such an event would effectively cede control of Mumbai's lucrative
organized crime territory to Hindu extremist criminal syndicates allied with the Hindu
terrorist Shiv Sena group.
The targeting of the Lubavitcher Chabad House in Mumbai, where a New York rabbi
and his wife were killed by one team of gangsters that arrived by sea from Pakistan,
was likely more score settling by Ibrahim who suspected that Israeli Mafiosi were
conspiring with Hindu extremist gangs to supplant Ibrahim's criminal influence in
Mumbai.
There is a history of Chabad Houses not only being used as safehouses and logistics
centers for Israeli intelligence but as storefronts for criminal activity. In March 1989, U.S.
law enfocement rounded up a criminal network in Seattle, Los Angeles, New Jersey,
Colombia, and Israel that involved a Chabad House that was involved in money
laundering and currency violations.
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What language the terrorists spoke ??
Mumbai attack: Terrorists spoke
Marathi?
29 November 2008
http://www.twocircles.net/2008nov29/mumbai_attack_terrorists_spoke_marat...
Mumbai: It is somehow surprising to learn that the terrorists in Cama hospital in Mumbai
were fluently speaking Marathi. The terrorists who are said to have fired in Cama
hospital talked to an employee clad in civil dress in Marathi, reports a Marathi daily
'Maharashtra Times'.
“The newspaper said the terrorists who targeted ATS chief Hemant Karkare, police
commissioner Ashok Kamte and encounter specialist Vijay Salaskar were speaking
Marathi fluently”
The newspaper claims the terrorists having fired at two watchmen in uniform asked the
other beside them on gunpoint in Marathi, 'You are here an employee?' The employee
caught the legs of the terrorist and said, 'I am not working here. My wife has suffered
from heart attack and I have come here to admit her.' The terrorist asked him again in
Marathi, 'You are speaking true or false?' The employee answered, 'No, by God I am
speaking true.'
On this the terrorist let him go.
A distinguished Pakistan analyst Ahmad Qureshi has done following analysis of
developments in India. Before we do our concluding review, this makes interesting
reading.
Signs of an Attempted Coup in New Delhi
With a traumatized nation and a paralyzed government, a core group of secular
ideologues and Hindu nationalists are executing a ‘soft coup’ in New Delhi to bring to
power hawks who want to pursue America’s agenda of grooming India as a regional
policeman, sort out Pakistan and confront China. India will self-destroy in the process.
India’s military and intelligence has been penetrated. The man who uncovered the plot,
Hemant Karkare, the antiterrorism chief of Mumbai police, was the first target of the
mysterious terrorists. Patriotic Indians need to wake up and save their country.
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By AHMED QURAISHI
Saturday, 29 November 2008.
WWW.AHMEDQURAISHI.COM
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan—Preliminary signs emerging from India’s power center, New Delhi,
paint a picture of an unstable situation. Security is already compromised. But a bigger
story is taking place in New Delhi, not Mumbai. There are disturbing signs that India, a
nuclear-armed nation of a billion people, is witnessing a ‘soft coup’ attempt involving
secular rightwing ideologues and Hindu nationalists.
Exploiting the fears of a traumatized nation and a government caught sleeping at the
wheel, a core group of rightwing ideologues within India’s military, intelligence and
political elite are trying to overthrow Manmohan Singh’s government. The plan
apparently is to help the rise of rightwing elements in power and firmly push India in a
confrontation with Pakistan and some other countries in the region.
The objective of this core group is to see India emerge as a superpower closely allied
with the United States. They are excited about American plans for India as a regional
policeman and have no problem in confronting China and Pakistan to achieve this
status. They think time is slipping and they don’t want a hesitant political leadership in
their way. Already the instability in the wake of Mumbai attacks is being exploited to
start a war with Pakistan. The fact that this will also help U.S. military that is facing a
tough time in Afghanistan appears to be more than just a coincidence.
In the very first hours of the Mumbai attack, the unknown terrorists were able to achieve
a singular feat: the targeted murder of Hemant Karkare, the chief antiterrorism officer in
the Indian police. The man was responsible for exposing the secret links between the
Indian military and Hindu terror groups. His investigation resulted in uncovering the
involvement of three Indian military intelligence officers in terrorist acts that were
blamed on Muslim groups. At the time of his murder, Karkare was pursuing leads that
were supposed to uncover the depth of the nexus between the Indian military and the
sudden rise of well armed and well financed Hindu terrorism groups with their wide
network of militant training camps across India.
An aggressive advertisement campaign has already begun across India urging a
scared population to rise against the government.
On Friday, front-page advertisements appeared in several newspapers in Delhi showing
blood splattered against a black background and the slogan “Brutal Terror Strikes At
Will” in bold capital letters. The ads signed off with a simple message: “Fight Terror. Vote
B.J.P.”
The Indian, the Pakistani and the international media has not woken up yet to this ‘soft
coup’ taking place in New Delhi. Some observers and journalists are beginning to
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catch its first signs. This is how a New York Times reporter, Somini Sengupta, has
characterized it today:
“Mr. Singh’s government had lately hit back at the Bharatiya Janata Party with
evidence that its supporters, belonging to a range of radical Hindu organizations, had
… been implicated in terrorist attacks. Indeed, in a bizarre twist, the head of the police
antiterrorism unit, Hemant Karkare, killed in the Mumbai strikes, had been in the midst of
a high-profile investigation of a suspected Hindu terrorist cell. Mr. Karkare’s inquiry had
netted nine suspects in connection with a bombing in September of a Muslim-majority
area in Malegaon, a small town not far from Mumbai. “
Evidence is emerging that Karkare knew he was facing the prospect of a violent death
because of the investigation he was pursuing. What Karkare probably didn’t know is
that his elimination would come in such a perfectly executed operation.
Only hours before Karkare’s violent death, his close friend, retired Colonel Rahul
Gowardhan, received an envelope. Karkare called him to say he was sending him a
confidential letter. This is how Times of India has reported the story:
“Just some hours before that,
Karkare had sent a letter to him in an
envelop which had some “personal”
content. “Hemant had called me up
on Wednesday,” said Gowardhan, a
top official with MSEDCL. “As I was in
a meeting, we decided to postpone
the talk. He hung up saying he would
be sending me an envelope. When I
wanted to know the content, he told
me to just read the letter that’s inside
it. I returned home and read it. I
cannot share the content of the letter
with anyone,” said Gowardhan”
The highly sophisticated nature of the attack in Mumbai, lasting for almost 60 hours,
diminishes the chances of a foreign invasion and increases the possibility that influential
elements in Indian intelligence and Hindu militant organizations might have helped
orchestrate this incident, pretty much like they did in the Sept. 29 Malegaon attack, in
which they tried to simulate a Muslim terrorist group. In that attack, in which three Indian
military intelligence officers have been arrested, the objective was to provoke a Muslim
backlash that could justify a massive state crackdown against minorities.
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Observers are already seeing how the hawks within the Indian establishment and Hindu
militant organizations have seized the initiative from a paralyzed government. The
Indian army and intelligence are already penetrated. Now the real culprits are
channeling the fears of a traumatized people toward Pakistan. India is on the same
path today that the Bush administration hawks took the American nation on after 9/11.
But this time, patriotic Indians have the benefit of hindsight. They should stop the secular
warmongers and Hindu militants from hijacking their country. The future of the entire
region depends on it.
Mumbai gunmen 'of British descent'
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/mumbai-gunmen-of-briti...
14085240.html
Friday, 28 November 2008
Two gunmen arrested after the Mumbai massacre were of British descent, the country's
chief minister said today. UK authorities played down reports that the terrorists included
Britons as violence in the city continued for a third day. But Indian Chief Minister Vilasrao
Deshmukh claims two British-born Pakistanis were among eight gunmen arrested by
Indian authorities, according to Associated Press reports.
(Eight men arrested by the Indians authorities and amongst them
were British men also! Why this information has been suppressed? )
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Mumbai photographer: I wish I'd had
a gun, not a camera. Armed police
would not fire back
Jerome Taylor talks to the photographer whose picture went around the world
Saturday, 29 November 2008
SEBASTIAN D'SOUZA
A gunman walks at the Chatrapathi Sivaji Terminal railway station in Mumbai, India,
Wednesday, Nov. 26, 2008. Teams of gunmen stormed luxury hotels, a popular
restaurant, hospitals and a crowded train station in coordinated attacks across India's
financial capital, killing people, taking Westerners hostage and leaving parts of the city
under siege Thursday, police said. A group of suspected Muslim militants claimed
responsibility. AP
It is the photograph that has dominated the world's front pages, casting an astonishing
light on the fresh-faced killers who brought terror to the heart of India's most vibrant city.
Now it can be revealed how the astonishing picture came to be taken by a newspaper
photographer who hid inside a train carriage as gunfire erupted all around him.
Sebastian D'Souza, a picture editor at the Mumbai Mirror, whose offices are just
opposite the city's Chhatrapati Shivaji station, heard the gunfire erupt and ran towards
the terminus. "I ran into the first carriage of one of the trains on the platform to try and
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get a shot but couldn't get a good angle, so I moved to the second carriage and
waited for the gunmen to walk by," he said. "They were shooting from waist height and
fired at anything that moved. I briefly had time to take a couple of frames using a
telephoto lens. I think they saw me taking photographs but theydidn't seem to care."
The gunmen were terrifyingly professional, making sure at least one of them was able to
fire their rifle while the other reloaded. By the time he managed to capture the killer on
camera, Mr D'Souza had already seen two gunmen calmly stroll across the station
concourse shooting both civilians and policemen, many of whom, he said, were armed
but did not fire back. "I first saw the gunmen outside the station," Mr D'Souza said. "With
their rucksacks and Western clothes they looked like backpackers, not terrorists, but
they were very heavily armed and clearly knew how to use their rifles.
"Towards the station entrance, there are a number of bookshops and one of the
bookstore owners was trying to close his shop," he recalled. "The gunmen opened fire
and the shopkeeper fell down."
But what angered Mr D'Souza almost as much were the masses of armed police hiding
in the area who simply refused to shoot back. "There were armed policemen hiding all
around the station but none of them did anything," he said. "At one point, I ran up to
them and told them to use their weapons. I said, 'Shoot them, they're sitting ducks!' but
they just didn't shoot back."
As the gunmen fired at policemen taking cover across the street, Mr D'Souza realised a
train was pulling into the station unaware of the horror within. "I couldn't believe it. We
rushed to the platform and told everyone to head towards the back of the station.
Those who were older and couldn't run, we told them to stay put."
The militants returned inside the station and headed towards a rear exit towards
Chowpatty Beach. Mr D'Souza added: "I told some policemen the gunmen had moved
towards the rear of the station but they refused to follow them. What is the point if
having policemen with guns if they refuse to use them? I only wish I had a gun rather
than a camera."
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Ten words a Pakistani would never say:
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=QhO6rynb1C8
One of the most interesting things about the Mumbai terrorist attack was that
the terrorists called a TV station and talked to journalists and rambled on and on
about their perceived grievances with the rest of the world. And it was very
much rambling on their part because half the stuff made no sense whatsoever.
In the aftermath of the attacks, with the Indian Government trying to put all the
blame on Pakistan, it is interesting to listen to these audio recordings because
even a cursory listening leaves one in no doubt that the person on the phone is
NOT of Pakistani origin.
Since the Indian Government at no point has denied that these calls were a
hoax or were not from the terrorists we can assume for now that they were
indeed originating from Nariman House and Mr. Imran (how unoriginal a name,
bet one of the other names that the Indian Government releases for the terrorists
will be Javed, those two names have been staples of Indian nightmares for a
few decades now!).
Among a lot of Hindi words that 'Mr. Imran' used, the following 10 are least likely
to be used by a Pakistani, Punjabi or otherwise:
1. Julm, as an exasperated Javed Akhtar pointed out to someone on Indian
Idol, don't butcher the language, it is zulm not julm and no Pakistani would
EVER say julm.
2. Jiadati, ditto, its ziadati
3. Jindagi, zindagi, you moron!
4. Naita, naita! Who would call a politician naita in Pakistan? Siyasatdan,
dude!
5. Itehas, err, history is tareekh for a Pakistani, not itehas no matter how many
Bollywood films you've digested!
6. Shanti, aman, not Shanti! Shanti for Pakistani's means 'ugly Indian woman'!
7. Parsaran, a word we used to make fun of while listening to Hindi
commentators on TV..."match ka seedha parsaran"! Definitely not in any
Urdu dictionary.
8. Atank Waadi, what? If he'd called himself a 'khalnayak' too, it would have
made my day!
9. Anayai, that's un-ay-i. Don't know what a Pakistani would say, ziadati I
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Let’s see what the Wiki says about the red bands the
terrorists were wearing!! Would LeT terrorists wear
these bands at the time of their death ??
Kalava
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kalava (Sanskrit: कलावा) is the sacred Hindu thread. It is worn while performing Hindu
rituals like Yajna or Puja. It is tied by a priest on the wrists of all the people attending the
prayer ceremony. Kalava is tied on right hand of males and unmarried females, and on
left hand of married females. Sometimes it has small yellow parts in between the mostly
red string. It sometimes has knots which are tied up while reciting Sanskrit mantras to
invoke God and is worn to ward off evil from the person who wears this red thread.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalava
guess! Not in any Pakistani's vocabulary anyway.
10.Paatshala, no I'm not making that up. He actually called a school that!
I haven't even mentioned the 'shuction' (section) and 'meray ko' and 'tumharay
ko bol rahay hain na' and 'mudhbhir' and a host of other very Indian vocabulary
that this guy was using.
To listen go to You Tube:
Video: http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=QhO6rynb1C8
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Mumbai Terrorists Were Aided By Indian
Authorities
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
http://www.infowars.com/?p=6289
Tuesday, December 2, 2008
Numerous disturbing details now strongly indicate that the terrorists who indiscriminately
slaughtered nearly 200 people in Mumbai were aided by some elements of the Indian
security apparatus responsible for protecting the city.
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Mumbai Terror Attack: Further Evidence Of
The Anglo-USA-Mossad-RSS Nexus
By Amaresh Misra, Countercurrents.org, 03 December, 2008
http://www.countercurrents.org/misra031208.htm
Now who has the last laugh? That is the question; I only have pity for those who
cannot see reality and who were so glib to buy into what the media and political
troubleshooters were saying about the Mumbai terrorist attacks.
Consider this:
As a BBC report notes, at least some of the Mumbai attackers were not Indian
and certainly not Muslim.Pappu Mishra, a cafe proprietor at the gothic Victorian
Chattrapati Shivaji Terminus railway station, described "two sprightly young men
dressed in black" with AK47s who were "foreign looking, fair skinned."Gaffar Abdul
Amir, an Iraqi tourist from Baghdad, saw at least two men who started the firing
outside the Leopold Cafe. "They did not look Indian, they looked foreign. One of
them, I thought, had blonde hair. The other had a punkish hairstyle. They were
neatly dressed," Amir told the BBC.
According to Andrew G. Marshall, the ISI "has long been referred to as Pakistan's
'secret government' or 'shadow state.' It's long-standing ties and reliance upon
American and British intelligence have not let up, therefore actions taken by the
ISI should be viewed in the context of being a Central Asian outpost of Anglo-
American covert intelligence operations."The presence of "foreign looking, fair
skinned" commandos who calmly gunned down dozens of people after drinking
a few beers indicates that the Mumbai attacks were likely the work of the Anglo-
American covert intelligence operatives, not indigenous Indian Muslims or for
that matter Arab al-Qaeda terrorists.
The attacks prepare the ground for the break-up of Pakistan and the furtherance
of destabilizing terrorism in the Middle East and Asia. The Mumbai attacks had
little to do with India or the relationship between Muslim Pakistanis and Hindu
Indians."Pakistan's position as a strategic focal point cannot be underestimated.
It borders India, Afghanistan, China and Iran," concludes Marshall. "Destabilizing
and ultimately breaking Pakistan up into several countries or regions will naturally
spread chaos and destabilization into neighboring countries. This is also true of
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Iraq on the other side of Iran, as the Anglo-American have undertaken, primarily
through Iraq, a strategy of balkanizing the entire Middle East in a new imperial
project." (See Marshall's Divide and Conquer: The Anglo-American Imperial
Project.)
Now I ask specifically: WHO HAS EGG ON THE FACE? MY DETRACTORS OR ME?
Andrew Marshall is a respected author; he is clearly saying here that terrorists
looked like Anglo-American covert operatives and that the entire Mumbai
operation was an attempt by Anglo-American forces to destabilize India and
push it further into the Israel-US orbit. Marshall also says that Americans are keen
to dismember Pakistan--it is clear that in this project, America needs India as a
firm ally--it cannot afford Indo-Pak friendship at least on a long-term basis. The
Mumbai attack thus was multi-layered--and one of the reasons could be to warn
India that the Anglo-American elite has the power to penetrate India, with the
help of its own people. Clearly, the attackers would not have come from the sea
route without some kind of a connivance of Gujarat and Maharashtra
Governments with the terrorists, and the connivance of RSS type Hindutva
elements as I will prove later in the piece.
This afore-mentioned report appeared on the BBC, a news agency which prowest,
Muslim-haters and all NRIs love to see. NOW I ASK THESE PEOPLE: why are
you adopting double standards? Now a BBC report is incovenient because it
militates against your idea of what happened in Mumbai? Even the Indian
Government is aware of this reality. That is why it is not issuing statements in a
hurry and that is why the kind of Islamo-phobia seen earlier after Bomb Blasts is
not being seen now.
A second report is more shocking--some news channels captured it but then it
went off air:
One Police officer who encountered the gunmen as they entered the Jewish
Center (Nariman House) said the attackers were white. "I went into the building
late last night" he said. "I got a shock because they were white. I was expecting
them to look like us. They fired three shots. I fired 10 back".
The Nariman House affair brings the Mossad angle to the fore. Two of the
`hostages' killed in the Narimam House were identified as Rabbi Gabreil
Holtzberg and his wife Rivka. They ran the center as spokespersons of the
Chabad Lubavitch movement. Now the Chabad movement is one of the many
sects within Israel and Judaism. But of late it has come under the Zionist
influence. Now what is Zionism? A brief digression would suffice: Zionism is the
political ideology of racist Jews, just like Hindutva is the political ideology of a
section of `race conscious' Hindus. Just as a majority of Sanatani Hindus have
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opposed Hindutva, a majority of Jews oppose Zionism and its fascist-anti-religious
tone.
In opposition to the teachings of Judaism, the orthodox Jew religion, Zionists
want to dominate the world; they see the `Jewish race' as the most important,
almost divine, race in the world. Zionists are opposed to democracy and even
the concept of nationhood. Zionists believe in creating murder and mayhem as
a matter of policy. In America, Zionists have entered into an alliance with the
American elites--the White-Anglo-Saxon Protestant (WASP) forces--which rule
America. The reasons for this alliance lie in the way the Zionist agenda matches
with that of the American corporate and WASP elite and is beyond the scope of
this article.
People who do not understand Zionism will never be able to understand what
happened in Mumbai. Back to members of the Chabad-Lubavitch movement
killed at Nariman House--people have asked how come the Rabbi and his wife
were killed if Mossad is involved in the Mumbai terror attack? The answer to this is
being forwarded by Jewish anti-Zionist websites. They also detail the sectarian
history of the Chabad-Lubavitch movement:
The attack on Mumbai spotlights the ultra-orthodox (haredi) Chabad-Lubavitch
community and its international outreach network. When Chabad outreach
(keruv) started in the 1950s, it seemed rather intellectually dishonest because the
organization used nostalgia for a never-existent Jewish past as a hook to enmesh
secular or secularized Jews in ultra-orthodox (haredi) practice as hozrim
bitshuvah (returnees, sometimes improperly called baalei tshuvah), but on the
whole the activity was mostly harmless in contrast with current Chabad activities,
which long ago crossed the border into dangerous territory.
As the Lubavitcher organization has become larger and wealthier -- partially
because mobilization for keruv has brought large contributions, members have
shown a propensity for corruption.
Yet, the Lubavitchers have worked closely with Jewish racists like Lawrence
Summers and Alan Dershowitz in the ongoing attempt to control discourse on
American campuses. The wealthy Russian Lubavitcher hozer bitshuvah Lev
Leviev openly supports Zionist terrorism and settlement building in the Palestinan
occupied territories. Possibly because of Leviev Chabad-Lubavitch has openly
become involved in Putin's struggles with Russian Jewish oligarchs. Still, there is an
even more sinister aspect to the Lubavitcher organization.
Because Lubavitcher outreach offices are located in some of the most important
political, corporate and university centers throughout the world, the Lubavitchers
have put together a network that is incomparable for corporate and
international espionage as well as for the secret exchange of information.
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Because Chabad Houses could potentially act as safe houses, where there
would be no record of a person's stay.
Most people do not take the Lubavitchers seriously, but I have visited Chabad
houses and encountered senior Israeli government or military officials (and
probably intelligence agents). One can easily imagine that Neocon intelligentsia
trying to develop a relationship with Hindutva (?????????) intelligentsia or
politicians might have used the Chabad Nariman House as a meeting place.
Here a Jew is saying that he has visited Chabad houses and that he has seen
covert operations going on and the involvement of senior Government and
military officials of Israel. This Jew writer is also talking openly about a Neo-Con-
Chabad-Hindutva tie-up! The Jew writer mentions the Mossad involvement in
Chabad Houses:
Because the Lubavitchers provide an unconditional welcome to all Jews in the
hope of bringing them closer to the Lubavitcher way of life, the Lubavitchers
have been open to potential subversion by Israeli intelligence organizations.
Mossad and Shin Bet found it quite easy to penetrate the haredi community
during the Yossele Affair. Jewish politics has often involved infiltration and
subversion of one political group by another. The David Project Israel Advocacy
organization has used its educational programs as a means to infiltrate more
mainstream Jewish communal organizations with radical Islamophobes and
Jabotinskian Zionists.
To Zionizeharedi groups that practice outreach, the Israeli government need only
give encouragement to Zionistically indoctrinated Hebrew-speaking young
people to participate in outreach programs, and in a few years the targeted
haredi community is thoroughly enmeshed in Zionist thinking while Israeli
intelligence organizations have a new crop of saya`nim in place ready to serve
in Zionist covert operations. What is a sayanim? Go to the link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayanim
and it states that "Sayanim (Hebrew: "helpers") is a term used to describe Jews
living outside Israel who volunteer to provide assistance to the Mossad.[1] This
assistance includes facilitating medical care, money, logistics, and even overt
intelligence gathering, yet sayanim are only paid for their expenses. No official
number is known, but estimates put the number of sayanim in the thousands. The
existence of this large body of volunteers is one reason why the Mossad operates
with fewer case officers than fellow intelligence agencies"
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Now back to the link
http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2008/12/chabad-lubavitch-dangerousgame.
html
from which I was quoting the Jewish writer originally. He says that the Lubavitcher
shluchim (outreach emissaries) Gavriel Noach and Rivka Holtzberg fit the
`sayanim' profile to a "T" -- especially Rivkah. So the two people killed in Nariman
House fit the Sayanim, that is Jews outside Israel who volunteer to provide
assistance to Mossad, profile!
NOW WHAT OTHER PROOF DO YOU WANT?
The Jewish writer of the afore-mentioned link himself asks the question: WOULD
MOSSAD HAVE KILLED THE RABBI AND HIS WIFE IN NARIMAN HOUSE? AND HE
PROVIDES THE ANSWER:
Zionists have always used dead Jews to build sympathy for Zionist goals and as
cover for Zionist crimes against humanity.
Ben-Gurion explicitly stated that he would sacrifice German Jewish children for
the sake of Zionism while the Zionist leadership probably learned the benefit of
sacrificing Zionist operatives from the 1946 Kielce Pogrom. In this incident
(Jewish) Soviet and Zionist agents probably worked together to make sure that
surviving Polish Jews chose emigration to Palestine over a return to Poland.
Because the Kielce Zionist recruiters were killed during the pogrom, the events
leading up to the pogrom was rendered forever unobtainable. Some reports of
the Mumbai attack indicate that the Holtzbergs rented space to the attack
planners over the past few months and thereby helped make the operation far
more effective. An opportunity to interrogate the Holtzbergs would have helped
investigators immensely.
AGAIN WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?
Another piece of massive evidence: In a telephone interview with CBC News
from outside the Center (Nariman House), freelance journalists Arun Asthana
said that there are reports that some of the militants had stayed at a guest house
there (Nariman House) for upto 15 days before the attack. "They had a huge
mass of ammunition, arms and food there", Asthana said.
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Now other reports have also confirmed that a huge mass of food was ordered by
the residents of the Nariman House. This food was enough for 30-40 people for
several days. Why was this amount of food ordered? Also why was Nariman
House not assaulted till the very last? A Gujarati Hindu resident of Mumbai came
onto TV on CNN-IBN to say at around 3.30 AM or so, that for two months
suspicious activities wree going in Nariman House. A lot of foreigners were seen
coming in and going out. This matter was reported to the Police. But no one took
action.
The CNN-IBN did not repeat the news; then it was only when the common
people of Mumbai threatened to storm the Nariman House the NSG
commandos were moved in--why this delay in assaulting Nariman House when
only two terrorists were holed in there? This is sheer official complicity and nothing
else--AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE WHOLE NARIMAN HOUSE AFFAIR IS A MUST.
Then it was reported that " somehow surprising to learn that the terrorists in Cama
hospital in Mumbai were fluently speaking Marathi. The terrorists who are said to
have fired in Cama hospital talked to an employee clad in civil dress in Marathi,
reports a Marathi daily 'Maharashtra Times'.
The newspaper said the terrorists who targeted ATS chief Hemant Karkare, police
commissioner Ashok Kamte and encounter specialist Vijay Salaskar were
speaking Marathi fluently. The newspaper claims the terrorists having fired at two
watchmen in uniform asked the other beside them on gunpoint in Marathi, 'You
are here an employee?' The employee caught the legs of the terrorist and said, 'I
am not working here. My wife has suffered from heart attack and I have come
here to admit her.' The terrorist asked him again in Marathi, 'You are speaking
true or false?' The employee answered, 'No, by God I am speaking true.'
On this the terrorist let him go.
NOW WHAT DO WE MAKE OF THAT? Another report says that traditional Jews of
Mumbai who have migrated to Israel speak fluent Marathi and are known to
have been recruited by Mossad!
The death of Hemant Karkare remains a mystery. All official versions are
contradictory: some say he was killed near CST, some that he died near Cama
hospital, some near Metro cinema, and some that he was killed while in a Police
jeep. Also, where did the bullet hit him? Some say on the neck and some near
the heart. Karkare was shown on TV wearing a bullet proof vest--he could not
have been shot in neck in that case, unless there was a sniper waiting for him.
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Also if he was shot near heart, then when did he take out his vest? No one has
even bothered to answer this question. Also, another facet is coming to light: that
Karkare was killed near Cama--but Kaamte and Salaskar in the Metro shootout!
Intelligent people--what do you have to say now? It is becoming obvious that...
1. Several terrorists might have been white
2. Were they International mercenaries? If yes, then from which country? Who
collected them? It is well known that Mossad and CIA have several mercenary
organizations, including so-called Jihadi ones on their list. They create Jihad and
manipulate Muslims disaffected by the Islamophobia in the world. Some of them
might have been used in the Mumbai attack. But why were they carrying
American, British, Mauritian and Malaysian passports?
3. Who were the Marathi speaking Karkare killers? The lane next to the Cama
Hospital is a deserted one--it goes straight to the backyard of the Mumbai CID
Headquarters. Anonymous sources in the Police have revealed that Karkare was
taken there, by a joint team of anti-Karkare, pro-Hindutva Mumbai Police
officers, and Chota Rajan men. Now Karkare was opposed to Chota Rajan.
Salaskar was anti-Pradeep Sharma, another Mumbai senior Police officer now in
jail, for working as Rajan's shooter. So the Marathi speaking terrorists could either
have been Jews with some connection to Mumbai--or hired killers of the
Hindutva brigade or men of Chota Rajan.
4. It seems that several things went on simultaneously--the Mahrashtra Chief
Minister Vilas Rao Deshmukh was in Kerala when the Mumbai attack began at
9.30 PM on 26th November. Then by 11PM Deshmukh had informed the Home
Minister Shivraj Patil--the latter has started proceedings to send the NSG
Commandos. So Deshmukh knew about what was happening by 11PM--then
why was there no Mumbai Police on various locations between 9.30 and 1am,
the time when Karkare arrived? The Mumbai ATS is a separate organization. it
does not lead the Mumbai Police. So the 40,000 strong Mumbai Police was
absent from the scene of action between 11pm to 1am and then Karkare arrived
and he was killed along with his men!
Isn't there something fishy here? Obviously the Mumbai Police was kept
deliberately away between 11pm and 1am, the time period when terrorists were
killing people merrily. Then Karkare must have been told--and he went there
expecting Mumbai police personals to be there--but there were none or only a
few! And he was killed!
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The Attack on Mumbai
http://bellaciao.org/en/spip.php?article17909
"The Incident in Mumbai is a mercenary attack... Very well planned."
Maloy Krishna DHAR, former director of Intelligence Bureau to Tehelka *.
by
Amaresh Misra,
December 9 2008
E_mail: misra.amaresh@gmail.com
Doubts and People
Some people have raised doubts about the 'theory' I am circulating supposedly on the
net. They have every right to question and doubt anyone and anything. After all doubt
is the mother of all kinds of right thinking. I have recevied dead threats, hate mails–but
more, I have received praises for courage and conviction.
I am not surprised and I do not mind people ridiculing me or anyone else–but I do mind
when that ridicule actually goes a long way in hiding the hypocrisy and criminal
face/intent of several prominent politicians and corporate figures. Yes–corporate
figures as well; what people do not understand is that in complex situations such as the
Mumbai terror attack, new lines of thought will emerge as more facts emerge. But that
should not stop anyone from offering critiques of the official or media version.
My initial theory that basically the Sangh Parivar elements instigated the terror attacks is
stronger now. In fact more than the Sangh Parivar, it was Modi–yes he is the new,
modern face of Indian fascism. He is the one to have a cozy relationship with Ratan
Tata, one of the most ruthless and anti-Indian business man, whose family earned its
money while smuggling opium to China during the 19th century, and sided with the
British in 1857, when 10 million Indians, Hindus and Muslims, lost their lives fighting the
British.
In fact, Narendra Modi (Gujarat Chief Minister) has left the RSS behind in many ways–he
is Mossad's number one man. Recently, a top RSS functionary told me that "Amaresh we
have lost control over out cadres. We never wanted to let things get out of hand in
Orissa and Karnataka. In Orissa, we had even planned a joint declaration with Christian
leaders. But there was a revolt from below. The VHP and Bajrang Dal refused to fall in
line. Then they got the subtle support of that man Modi. We were helpless".
Basically, the RSS lost control over the Frankestein they created. In Modi's form this
Frankestein struck a deal with Mossad–now remember Mossad has links in the faction
torn ISI–remember also that several `Jihadi' groups, in Pakistan, Afghanistan and the
Middle-East are still remote comtrolled by either the Mossad or the CIA. In a recent
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case, a Muslim `Jihadi' organization in Yemen was found to be a Mossad set-up. That is
why it is possible the several young men who attacked Mumbai used Pakistan as a
base. But their nationality is varied. Some might be Muslims from the UK as well; at least
there is one with a Mauritius passport.
Now it is coming to the fore that someone from Saudi Arabia (called Maulana Bedi for
now) probably collected and sent these 'Jihadis'. That mastermind must have been
paid by an Indian / Modi interest. These masterminds have no ideology. They are
creations of America who now work for money, and even against American interests.
This is again a complex but stark reality.
Also Nanda, the owner of Oberoi, is a close friend of Modi. He has millions invested in
Gujarat. How come terrorists were holed up in Taj and Oberoi for days before the
operation? How come arms and ammunition were stored for days in the two 5 star
Hotels? Can the common man do this? Is all this possible without some sort of a
connivance (known or unknown) of Hotel authorities? And is it too incredible to suppose
that Hotel owners will not, knowingly or unknowingly, encourage the destruction of their
own property? Taj maybe great for us–but what is its emotional or financial value for
Tata? Modi's acceptance of the Nano plant in Gujarat on extremely favorable terms
might be more important for Tata.
I leave this aspect to you all. Coming to the Nariman House, I am really surprised at the
perception that why would a Mossad backed operation kill Jews? Why not? In any
case Mossad backs aggressive Zionism, which is very much a modern religo-fascist
ideology like Hindutva. Zionism is not part of Judaism, just as Hindutva is not part of
Sanatan Dharma, the real religion of Hindus. In the Praggya Singh affair, Sanatan
Dharmis opposed Hindutva especially when they were maligning Hemant Karkare.
So Mossad and Zionists are known to have killed ordinary Jews–after all Hindutva
ideology killed Mahatama Gandhi–can anyone deny that? Also Modi without a qualm
masterminded the killing of several of his own people in the Godhara train incident, in
order the create the atmosphere for large scale anti-Muslim and anti-India riots.
Remember evil thrives in the world because the `good' lacks imagination. Evil triumphs
because it is capable of out-thinking `good'.
Those who call themselves supporters of Modi and Advani, they are also supporters of
the killers of Gandhi. Hindutva ideology and politics since its inception has been
opposed to the idea of a secular Indian nation-state since 1947. They staged an
uprising against Indian state in 1947; proof exists that Golwalkar the RSS chief was hand
in glove with the British army in carrying out anti-Muslim attacks. This was brought to the
notice of Rajeshwar Dayal, the then Home Secretary of the United Provinves (present
day UP) who took the case to Govind Ballabh Pant, the the then UP Chief Minister.
Karkare's death
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Now the Karkare incident–two versions are already coming out. It is unclear how he was
killed–and foul play is suspected. Karkare's mother came onto TV and wanted to know
how her son was killed. Salaskar's cousin raised the same issue. So the relatives of the
brave martyrs are asking for justice. They feel that there is more than meets the eye–
and that somehow Karkare's death, and that of Kaamte and Salaskar, was related to
the Malegaon blast investigation conducted by Karkare.
Why has Karkare's son refused the 1 crore announced by Modi? The latter came to
Oberoi when the firing was still on; he made a very petty statement disliked by
everyone. Modi was probably feeling that he had pulled off an ace by triggering this
crisis just before elections in Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan and Delhi, areas in which the
BJP was clearly losing before the terror attacks. Think–the boat to Mumbai could not
have come without the co-operation of the Gujarat Government!
The fact is that Hindutva forces who were castigating Karkare and the entire Mumbai
ATS team as villains and `enemies of Hindus' are now suddenly hailing them as heroes?
What double standards man–people have send me mails, saying that they support
Advani and Modi. All these people are supporting the killing of Karkare, just as they
supported the killing of Gandhi. Karkare and Kaamte were true Hindus and the most
secular elements within the strife-torn, and highly communal Mumbai Police. They were
men of integrity–how come Karkare died while wearing a bullet proof vest? Or like
Sharma in the Batala House encounter, was he not wearing that vest? Was he shot in
the heart or the neck? Probably we will never know.
But we should know–we have a right to know. Karkare was hated by Hindutva elements.
And they masterminded his killing–they are responsible. Karkare is a great hero, a
martyr in the cause of secularism. Narendra Modi, L. K. Advani and all the anti-Sanatani
Hindus posing as Hindus on the net have a distorted mind. In their blind or soft anti-
Muslim hatred, they are unable to see how, to suppress the Malegaon Blast
investigation, in which Karkare was about to take the name of Praveen Togadia and
even Chota Rajan, Karkare was eliminated.
Communal forces backed by foreign agencies are hell bent on destroying India–
America wants to dismember Pakistan, gherao China etc. and for that it needs India
firmly in the US-Israel orbit. That is why Americans, British and Israelis were targeted.
Nariman House was a hub where according to eyewitness reports, several suspicious
Israelis were seen coming and out; it is possible that these people were involved in the
terror attacks and that they killed their own people.
The Mumbai terror attacks were a gigantic exercise, a fight between those forces within
the Indian establishment who want to take India towards the dangerous and suicidal
US-Israel nexus and those who want India to stay Independent and have good relations
with Pakistan, China and Iran. Everyone in this battle would not everything or all the
countours. But the pattern is becoming clear slowly and steadily. Indian nationalism has
to be redefined–India's slow drift towards a pro-US and a pro-Israel policy and towards
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Hindutva gives the ground for people like Maulana Bedi and Mossad to attack India.
India has to go back to the anti-Imperialist, Hindu-Muslim unity, anti-Hindutva 1857
nationalism.
Why were the 1857 150th anniversary celebrations downplayed in India? Why was my
book on 1857 downplayed? Because the pro-US and pro-Israel lobby did not want
1857, the nodal point of true Indian nationalism to resurrect. Think… just think…we owe
this to Karkare and all brave NSG men and army men… Thanks to Bush, global terrorism
has become an industry, money making machine. It has other phenomenon like
outsourcing war and terror to mercenaries attached to it. Mossad excels in forming
armies of private mercenaries and destablizing states the world over. Just go to the net.
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Antulay seeks probe into Karkare's
killing
18 Dec 2008,
1000 hrs IST, TNN
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Antulay_raises_doubts_over_Kark
ares_killing/articleshow/3852273.cms
NEW DELHI: Minority affairs minister A R Antulay on Wednesday set off a major political
row by demanding a probe into the shooting of
Mumbai ATS
chief Hemant Karkare in the 26/11 terror strikes
which he linked to investigations into the alleged
involvement of Hindu radicals in the Malegaon
blast case.
Stating that the circumstances of Karkare's
shooting "may be inquired into", Antulay seemed
to have borrowed a leaf from Pakistani TV hosts
who have claimed that the Mumbai attacks were
the handiwork of "Hindu-Zionists". Antulay told the
media outside Parliament's gate number 12 that
"there must have been some reason why Karkare
went to Cama hospital instead of Taj and Oberoi
hotels."
Antulay said "someone" could have told Karkare
and other officers with him to go to Cama hospital,
suggesting that the ATS chief fell victim to a set-up
as he was probing cases which involved Hindu
radicals in the Malegaon case. The comments
were immediately televised and triggered an
uproar in Lok Sabha where BJP and Shiv Sena MPs vehemently criticised the minister
who insisted that directions issued to the officer must be probed.
A red-faced Congress swiftly dissociated itself from the minister with party spokesperson
Abhisekh Singhvi saying, "We don't accept the inference and the innuendo that
underline the statement (of Antulay)...we don't agree with bringing this case (Karkare's
killing) under a cloud."
A R Antulay reacts while
interacting with media outside
Parliament House in New Delhi. (PTI
Photo)
More Pictures
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But Antulay was unfazed, virtually daring the Congress to sack him and offering to
"explain" the geography of south Mumbai to his party.
He got support from the RJD with party leader Devendra Yadav also expressing
suspicion of involvement of Hindu radicals in Karkare's killing. As his boss Lalu Prasad
looked on approvingly, he said, "Two days before Karkare was killed, who had given a
call for Maharashtra bandh?"
Reacting to the controversy, BJP condemned Antulay's statement and said the minister
was as good as playing ISI's attorney and demanded his sacking. BJP leader Arun
Jaitley said Pakistan could now quote Antulay to contest the account of the lone
surviving Mumbai terrorist Ajmal Amir Kasab. "Having made such a preposterous
statement, Antulay cannot be allowed to remain in government even for a day," he
said.
Antulay has been fulminating since Tuesday evening when the Cabinet cleared the bills
for a National Investigation Agency and amendments to the Unlawful Activities
(Prevention) Act. He expressed apprehension that tougher anti-terror laws could well be
misused, hinting that minorities were in the line of fire.
On Wednesday afternoon, Antulay added to this script, telling TV cameras that apart
from terrorism, the laws should also emcompass communal riots. "Those who riot are also
terrorists," he claimed, seeking to provide what he felt was a sense of "equivalence" to
the government's actions. But soon after, perhaps dissatisfied by his efforts, Antulay
reappeared to claim he suspected foul play in the shooting of Karkare.
The "Karakare conspiracy" has been articulated by some Urdu newspapers and clerics
like the Shahi Imam of Delhi's Jama Masjid. This is despite the exhaustive account of
Ajmal Kasab, who along with slain terrorist Ismail, shot Karkare, additional commissioner
Ashok Kamte and encounter specialist Vijay Salaskar. Also, a Mumbai police constable
Jadhav, who actually survived the shooting by lying at the back of the qualis
commandeered by Kasab and Ismail has given his account of the shooting as well.
Antulay's blatant attempt to politicise the death of the Mumbai ATS chief at a time
when the government was moving harder anti-terror laws may well have sounded the
deathknell to the post 26/11 bipartisanship in fighting terrorism. It also places Prime
Minister Manmohan Singh in an arkward position. If Antulay continues as a minister
without a full retraction, it would mean allowing the minister to undermine the
government on the Mumbai attacks.
Antulay's controversial comments provided fodder for an enraged Opposition. While
Shiv Sena's Anant Geete drew Lok Sabha's attention to Antulay's words, triggering a
spat with treasury benches, the minister sought to present a defence by saying he had
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only questioned who had sent the top cops in the direction of Cama hospital when
bigger attacks were happening at Taj and Oberoi. He was cut short by Geete that his
statement was more categorical and was on TV.
Devendra Yadav demanded that home minister P Chidambaram constitute a "probe
on the relation between terror and Sangh Parivar."
Was the Mumbai attack a contractualterrorist
operation?
19 Dec, 2008
Amaresh Misra
Did Mumbai terrorists work through Bona-fide Indian Police Informers?
A new revelation, which actually repeats a pattern seen before, casts
its own shadow over the Mumbai terror attack.
A report, appearing on several Indian and International news agencies
claims that, persons who probably brought SIM cards used by Mumbai
terrorists could have been Police informers and people working for
different Indian State Police or intelligence forces:
"One of the two Indian men arrested for illegally buying mobile phone
cards used by the gunmen in the Mumbai attacks was a counterinsurgency
police officer who may have been on an undercover mission, security
officials said Saturday, demanding his release. The arrests, announced
in the eastern city of Calcutta, were the first since the bloody siege
ended. But what was touted as a rare success for India's beleaguered
law enforcement agencies, quickly turned sour as police in two Indian
regions squared off against one another.
Senior police officers in Indian Kashmir, which has been at the heart
of tensions between India and Pakistan, demanded the release of the
officer, Mukhtar Ahmed, saying he was one of their own and had been
involved in infiltrating Kashmiri militant groups.
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Indian authorities
believe the banned Pakistani-based militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba,
which has links to Kashmir, trained the gunmen and plotted the attacks
that left 171 people dead after a three-day rampage through Mumbai
that began Nov. 26.
The implications of Ahmed's involvement - that Indian agents may have
been in touch with the militants and perhaps supplied the SIM cards
used in the attacks added to the growing list of questions over
India's ill-trained security forces, which are widely blamed for not
thwarting the attacks.
Earlier Saturday, Calcutta police announced the arrests of Ahmed and
Tauseef Rahman, who allegedly bought SIM cards by using fake
documents, including identification cards of dead people. The cards
allow users switch their cellular service to phones other than their
own.
Rahman, of West Bengal state, later sold them to Ahmed, said Rajeev
Kumar a senior Calcutta police officer. Both men were arrested Friday
and charged with fraud and criminal conspiracy, Kumar said, adding
that police were still investigating how the 10 gunmen obtained the
SIM cards.
But the announcement had police in Sirinagar, the main city in
Indian-controlled Kashmir, fuming. We have told Calcutta police that
Ahmed is "our man and it's now up to them how to facilitate his
release," said one senior officer speaking on condition of anonymity
due to the sensitivity of the information. Other police officials in
Kashmir supported his account.
The officer said Ahmed was a Special Police Officer, part of a
semi-official counterinsurgency network whose members are usually
drawn from former militants. The force is run on a special funding
from the federal Ministry of Home Affairs.
"Sometimes we use our men engaged in counterinsurgency ops to provide
SIM cards to the (militant) outfits so that we track their plans
down," said the officer. Police said Ahmed was recruited to the force
after his brother was killed five years ago, allegedly by
Lashkar-e-Taiba militants for being a police informer. About a dozen
Islamic militant groups have been fighting in Kashmir since 1989,
seeking independence from mainly Hindu India or a union with
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Muslim-majority Pakistan. India and Pakistan have fought two of their
three wars over the Himalayan region, which is divided between them
and claimed by both in its entirety.
The Calcutta police denied the claims from Sirinagar. "This is not
true," said Kumar. The bungling and miscommunications among India's
many security services comes as police said they were re-examining
another suspected Lashkar militant who was arrested nine months before
the attacks carrying hand-drawn sketches of Mumbai hotels, the train
terminal and other targeted sites".
It is a standard and understandable practice of Indian security forces
to use captured militants or ex-militants with grievances for
counter-insurgency operations. What is strange is that SIM cards
purchased by these agents working for Government agencies were used by
Mumbai terrorists. We can see here a direct clash between the Kashmir
and the Calcutta Police. This could have been dismissed as a one off
instance were it not for the fact that even earlier there have been
reports of Police informers and even Pakistanis working as double
agents for RAW being framed in terror attacks in India.
One such affair is the strange case of the Red Fort terror attack,
resembling the Parliamentary attack, in December 2007. A man named
Muhammad Arif alias Ashfaq was caught and sentenced to be hanged for
being the mastermind. The Court let all other `terrorists' go.
Tehelka has this to say in a report:
"Arif candidly acknowledged that he was a Pakistani in his statement
under Section 313 of the CrPC. But he also explained in detail the
circumstances under which he came to India. Arif claimed that he was
an operative for RAW, India's external intelligence agency. His
statement reads: "I used to work for the 'X' branch of RAW since 1997.
On the last day of June 2000, I went to Kathmandu to give some
documents to Sanjeev Gupta. I reached there from Pakistan by a PIA
(Pakistan International Airlines) flight on my passport number 634417…
Sanjeev Gupta accompanied me to Raxaul and from there I came to India
by train. He gave me the address of one
Nain Singh and his telephone number (6834454), saying he would
accommodate me. Nain Singh gave me a room in his own house. He advised
me not to tell my real name and address to anyone, and to say that I
was a resident of Jammu."
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The evidence gathered by TEHELKA indicates that Arif wasn't lying. He
did stay with Nain Singh, who was working for RAW and who admitted
before the court that he was employed with the Cabinet Secretariat,
the usual euphemism for RAW. Arif stayed for one nd- a-half months in
Nain Singh's house in south-east Delhi's Okhla village. While Nain
Singh acknowledged Arif's stay in his house, he explained it away by
saying that the house belonged to his mother. "Azam Mailk was a tenant
in the house. He brought Arif to my mother. I was not in Delhi at the
time. Arif informed me that he was a resident of Jammu. I told my
mother that the house should not be rented to a Kashmiri. Thereafter
he vacated the house within one-and-a-half months." When the court
asked Nain Singh about what he did, Singh replied: "I cannot disclose
my present official address. I cannot produce my identity card in the
open court (the identity card was shown to the judge and returned). I
am working for the Cabinet Secretariat. I cannot disclose whether I am
working for RAW."
But this aspect and Nain Singh's credentials were not probed: "Nain
Singh was not cross-questioned. The police did not deem it fit to
investigate what a Pakistani national charged with a terror attack was
doing staying in the house of a RAW operative. Instead, the Special
Cell made Singh a government witness. The Delhi High Court took strong
exception to this. Says the High Court judgement, "Nain Singh, who
appears to have been working for some intelligence wing of the
government, definitely cannot be made a prosecution witness. It cannot
be expected that he wouldn't have known that the person to whom he let
out his house was a foreigner who had gained illegal entry to India."
Why are Arif's links with Nain Singh not being enquired into? Are
those working for intelligence agencies above the law? The High Court
raised objections but went ahead and endorsed Arif's death sentence.
Arif may well be guilty but can he be hanged when so many questions
remain unanswered?
There are more loopholes. Phone records indicate that Arif and Nain
Singh did not sever their relations after the Pakistani moved out of
the RAWofficers' home. Not just this, Arif was in touch with two
officials in the Special Cell ― Inspector RS Bhasin and Ved Prakash ―
because they had been introduced to him by Nain Singh. The Delhi High
Court in its judgment, however, says: "It appears to us that the
accused must have taken some advantage of his acquaintance with the
police and intelligence officials, and under the shelter of that
acquaintance must have been carrying out nefarious activities."
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The court recognises the fact that Arif was getting some leverage from
the Special Cell but stops short of critically examining the phone
records according to which Arif and the Special Cell officers were in
regular touch with each other. Another question rises over how a man
acquainted with members of the Special Cell could have plotted and
carried out the attack without their having any idea of it? At any
rate, the fact that Arif was in touch with the officers even before
the attack casts serious doubts on the objectivity of the
investigation".
In the light of such evidence, it is pertinent to look at what Arif
has to say. He denies any role in the Red Fort terror attack. Instead,
he alleges that the Special Cell operatives, whom he was in touch
with, have falsely implicated him in the case. In his statement, Arif
mentions an amount of Rs 7 lakh sent to Nain Singh through Sanjeev
Gupta for Arif's use. "But Nain Singh did not admit to receiving the
money… I spoke to Sanjeev Gupta and opened an account with HDFC Bank.
My chequebook remained with Nain Singh. Whenever I needed money, I
used to take it from Nain Singh. My asking for money used to annoy
Nain Singh, and he ultimately got me falsely involved in this case."
A bank account was indeed opened in Arif's name at HDFC with the help
of fake documents. Arif had a fake ration card and a fake driving
licence. His bank account number, 0891000024344, had Rs 5,53,000 at
the time of his arrest. According to the police, the money had come
through hawala transactions. A person who had access to his account
would have gained if Arif was not in the picture.
Arif told the court he had become adamant in demanding his money from
Nain Singh. He alleged that on December 25, 2000, Nain Singh called
him to his residence, where he met Bhasin and Prakash. The two took
Arif to the Lodhi Colony police station and, along with a Sikh
officer, interrogated him. "They asked about my entire background,"
Arif told the court. Thereafter, he was dropped off at Singh's house
from where he went to his home in Ghazipur in East Delhi. He was
arrested there later that night.
The key evidence, that links Arif to the site of the crime are the
call records of his two mobile phone numbers (9811278510 and
9811242154), which the police claim were used from a single handset
(IMEI number 445199440940240). However, TEHELKA's investigation shows
that the records were tampered with (see box). The tampering was done
in such a manner as to show that both numbers were used from one phone
in Arif's possession.
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There are several inconsistencies in the police version. The time of
Arif's arrest is not the same in the FIR and the arrest memo; the
pistol number recovered from Arif recorded in the seizure memo is
different from the one mentioned in the expert examination report ―
the High Court called it "an inadvertent error by the writer". There
were no public witnesses when the evidence was collected, either at
Red Fort or at Arif's house. While Head Constable Satbir Singh claims
that an AK-47 was found near Vijay Ghat, his colleagues claim it was
an AK-56.
There is confusion over the route the terrorists are said to have
taken to enter Red Fort. While Captain SP Patwardhan says they would
have entered from the Saleem Garh Gate/Yamuna Bridge, the cops say
they came from the Lahori Gate. The two gates are at opposite ends of
the Red Fort complex. The rope the terrorists allegedly used to let
themselves down from the walls of the Fort was found lying in a coil
on the Fort's terrace. Nobody saw the terrorists' faces. The only
description available is of two men dressed in black. The chowkidar on
duty at the Lahori Gate was never questioned. A call was made from the
number 9811278510 to BBC journalists in New Delhi and Srinagar just
after the Red Fort attack. The caller said the attack had been carried
out by the LeT. Mool Chand Sharma, an inspector in the Special Cell,
said in his statement: "I reached Red Fort along with my staff at
about 10:45pm.
The commissioner of police and senior army officers were already
there. There I came to know that terrorists belonging to the LeT had
shot dead three army personnel and escaped." How did Sharma know the
attackers were from the LET even before the investigation had started?
To send a man to the gallows on the basis of such flimsy evidence is
nothing if not a mockery of justice. Is Arif an easy scapegoat, or is
he just a pawn in some greater conspiracy? Hanging him will not
provide the answers".
So what do we make of all this? Has anyone mentioned the Red Fort
case? There have been so many instances when several Police agents etc
have been double crossed and killed. The pattern seems to be that
either these forces are being used by Indian State actors who are
aware of their existence or that our security forces have been
infiltrated or both.
The second shock comes from the state of Uttar Pradesh (UP); there an
India Today report discloses that the Rampur Police has disclosed that
much before the Mumbai attack, they had caught a terrorist in Rampur
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who had confessed about impending attacks not just in Mumbai but Taj
and other destinations:
"Mumbai Police had clear intelligence inputs on an imminent terrorist
attack, according to the Special Task Force (STF) of Uttar Pradesh
police. Contradicting Maharashtra Home Minister R.R. Patil's claim,
the STF said Lashkar-e-Tayyeba terrorist Fahim Ahmed Ansari, presently
lodged in Rampur jail, had revealed the plan to it and to Mumbai
Police which had interrogated him in February-end.
Fahim was nabbed by the STF on February 10 this year, along with two
others, for his involvement in the Rampur CRPF camp attack on January
1, 2008 in which seven soldiers and a civilian were killed. UP police
had proclaimed him mastermind for the planned Mumbai attack right
after it recovered a map of Mumbai with important establishments
earmarked and railway tickets from Lucknow to Mumbai from him. On
Thursday, additional director general of police (STF) Brij Lal
reiterated the claim: "Fahim was mastermind for the Mumbai attack. He
was assigned to make arrangements for terrorists in Mumbai and had
visited it several times in this regard. He had revealed all this to
us and to Mumbai Police."
Two terrorists had been nabbed along with Fahim on February 10 -
Muhammad Anwar and Arshad Ali. The U.P. STF had arrested three others
of the group from Charbagh Railway Station in Lucknow on the same
night (February 10) and identified them as Sabauddin Ahmed, Abu Zar
and Abu Sama. Sabauddin was also involved in attack on Bangalore's
Indian Institute of Sciences (IISc) on December 28, 2005 in which a
professor had died.
The U.P. STF had said that they were fidayeens, trained to attack
military camps, police establishments and important civilian centres
and were on their way to Mumbai. Brij Lal said when the information
was conveyed to Mumbai Police, it took Fahim on remand in the last
week of February before he was sent back to Rampur jail in March. "He
had revealed during interrogation in Mumbai that he and Anwar had
visited all important centres in Mumbai, including the Bombay Stock
Exchange and the Taj Mahal Hotel," he said.
U.P. police also believe the Fahim link gets credence from the fact
that the attacks in Mumbai bear a striking resemblance to the attack
in Rampur as terrorists ran amok in the city and took people hostage.
"Since the Mumbai and Rampur attacks have the same pattern, we believe
the terrorists had shelved their Mumbai plan for some time only to
execute it to deadly effect now with minor changes in the blueprint,"
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said a top U.P. police officer. Sources in Uttar Pradesh home
department say now Fahim and Anwar would be brought to Lucknow from
Rampur jail in a day or two for fresh interrogation". Rakesh Maria of
the Mumbai has confirmed that "Fahim might be the mastermind behind
the Mumbai attack".
So, if this is Rakesh Maria's attiude, then what about all the stories
that Kasab the terrorist caught by the Police is telling? For the
record, Kasab did not mention even once the name of Faheem. This might
be because Kasab did not know about the existence of Faheem―if that is
the case, then the Mumbai attack seems much more and more a
contractual-mercenary operation, during which the direct executors,
people like Kasab, do not know either the `mastermind' or the
mastermind behind the mastermind, who would have given the supari or
the contract for the operation.
So, the question which no one is asking, that was this a contract
operation? And who might have given out the contract? This again
brings the question of who would benefit from Karkare's death and the
timing of the Mumbai attack; it is important to emphasize that all
contractual terrorist operations are, and I am quoting a CIA manual
here (the CIA and the Mossad excel in contract terrorism as can be
seen from several books, especially on CIA-Mossad operations in Beirut
and Lebanon) "in essence a question of gamble. We do it to achieve
multiple objectives. But it is almost impossible that all those
objectives will be met; even if one or two are met, the operation is a
success".
The Mumbai attack has the appearance of a `multiple objective' strike,
in which some objectives like Karkare's death were met and some, like
BJP's winning elections in Delhi and Rajasthan were not.
Listen to the “terrorists”. Is this language of a Pakistani
from Punjab?
http://ishare.rediff.com/filevideo-
2nd%20Terrorist%20speaks%20from%20Nariman%20house-id-
519881.php
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhO6rynb1C8
The so called terrorist Imran is clearly speaking fluent Hindi and NOT Urdu or Punjabi. His
accent is also Indian.
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Just weeks before the Mumbai attacks on November 26th, a
series of explosive reports began to appear in Indian media
about the involvement of Hindu Zionists in acts of terrorism
against Muslims. The news were sensational, stunning and
earth shattering for the Hindu Zionists. Just look at their dates
and time line. It was this pressure which forces the Mosssad
/ RAW nexus to launch Mumbai to divert attention from
investigations by ATS chief Kurkure, who was killed in
Mumbai.
Note the dates of these news reports!
Radical Hindu terror plot in unsolved
bombings?
http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=Purohit+procured+60+...
+from+J&K:+ATS&artid=4RHqW7gZkxI=&SectionID=b7ziAYMenjw=&MainSectionID=b7ziA
YMenjw=&SEO=Hindu,+terror,+Purohith,+RDX&SectionName=pWehHe7IsSU=
NEW DELHI: More arrests are expected in the coming weeks as the frightening
dimensions of a radical Hindu terror plot start to unravel, with investigators indicating
that it had the makings of a larger conspiracy and planning of reprisal killings of Muslims
for serial bombings in a number of Indian cities.
Ten people, including a self-proclaimed Hindu seer and a serving lieutenant colonel,
have so far been arrested for the Sep 29 bombing in a Muslim-dominated
neighbourhood in the small Maharashtra town of Malegaon that killed five people.
Investigators are now examining if a Hindu terror conspiracy was involved in several
other blasts - like the one of the Samjhauta Express train in 2007 - that have till date
remained unsolved.
The Anti-Terrorism Squad's (ATS) arrest of Mahant Amritanand Dev alias Dayanand
Pandey, the self-styled pontiff from Kanpur, which investigators say is a "prize catch", has
already revealed that it was under his instructions that Lt. Colonel Shrikant Purohit
procured RDX from an army depot that was used in the Malegaon blast.
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"Pandey was present in all the pre-blast meetings in Bhopal, Jabalpur and Faridabad,
monitored operations meticulously and was also responsible for arranging the finances
that came in through illegal channels," an ATS source told IANS.
Investigators are now questioning the suspects on the May 2007 blast at Mecca Masjid
in Hyderabad, the attack on the Samjhauta Express train between India and Pakistan in
February 2007 and the April 2006 twin blasts at New Delhi's Jama Masjid.
"Not much headway has been made into the investigations in these attacks. We need
to examine if a similar radical Hindu fringe could have been behind these bombings
and that is under the scanner now," said a senior intelligence official, who could not be
named because of the sensitivity of his position.
“We could see more arrests in the coming days but that will depend on whether we
can get sufficient evidence.”
It is believed that Pandey, a dropout from the National Defence Academy, was in
touch with two other accused who are on the run - Ramji Kalsangara, who allegedly
planted the motorcycle owned by the Hindu ascetic Pragya Singh Thakur in Malegaon,
and Sameer Dange.
In the Mecca Masjid blasts as many as 14 people were killed and over 50 injured. The
case was investigated by the city police special wing and was later handed over to the
Central Bureau of Investigation which could not come to any conclusion. There were
some remote indications of Bangladesh-based terror outfit Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami's
involvement.
Investigations into the Samjhauta Express explosion, in which at least 68 people were
killed, and the Jama Masjid blast also failed to make headway and police could not
across on any tangible leads.
Police have already established a strong link between Pandey and some of the
suspects in the Kanpur blast case through surveillance - on Aug 24, two members of the
right-wing Bajrang Dal were killed there while assembling bombs.
“With his (Pandey) arrest we will now get to the bottom of this case and see if there are
linkages as well in the 2006 Nanded blasts in Maharashtra,” said a senior police official.
Unearthing this terror network has indicated a major course correction for police, who
had blamed Islamic terrorists for a wave of bombings that have killed more than 145
people targeting cities like Delhi, Bangalore, Ahmedabad and Jaipur this year.
The arrests have reinforced growing suspicions over the last few years of a potential
threat from Hindu extremists.
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All Bomb Blasts by Hindu Terrorists
Lt-Col Purohit gave RDX for
Samjhauta blast: ATS to court
Times of India Report:
NASHIK: Serving Army officer Lt-Col P S Purohit procured 60 kg of RDX from Jammu and
Kashmir in the year 2006, a part of which is suspected to have
been used in Samjautha Express train explosion and Malegaon blasts, Maharashtra
police told a court here on Saturday. ( Watch )
Seeking extension of police custody of Purohit, special prosecutor for Maharashtra ATS
Ajay Misar told the court that a witness in Malegaon blast told ATS that Purohit had
claimed he had 60 kgs of RDX in his possession which he had got from Jammu and
Kashmir.
Purohit gave a portion of the RDX to one Bhagwan who is suspected to have used in
Samjhauta Express blast, Misar said.
Wednesday, November 26, 2008
Threat to blow up ATS chief's house
http://news.in.msn.com/national/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1708326
Pune: An anonymous caller, who used a public call office, to contact the Pune police,
threatened to blow up the residence of Mumbai Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS) Chief
Hemant Karkare "within a couple of days", a top official confirmed today.
The caller who spoke a few lines in Marathi on November 24 evening cut the line after
giving the threat, Rajendra Sonavane, Joint Commissioner of Police (JCP), told PTI.
The call was later traced to a public booth in Sahkar Nagar area of the city, he added.
Asked whether it was being seen as a 'hoax', Sonavane said police were taking all such
threats seriously in the present scenario and the Mumbai ATS had been informed duly
about the threat call.
However, the police control room, when contacted last night, had denied receiving
any such threat to Karkare.
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Explosive revelations of Lt Col Purohit
Vicky Nanjappa in Bengaluru |
November 14, 2008
http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/nov/14atsmale-explosive-revelations-of-l....
htm
The arrest of Hindu activists in connection with the Malegaon blast has put several
investigating agencies on rewind mode. If the revelations by Lieutenant Colonel Srikant
Purohit are to be believed then several bomb blasts in the country need to be
reinvestigated.
MI stint helped organise blast, says Lt Col in narco test
Purohit, who was subject to a narco analysis test in Bengaluru [Images], made startling
revelations in which he claimed that self-proclaimed religious leader, Swami
Amritanand Saraswati also known as Dayanand Pandey had masterminded both the
Nanded as well as the Ajmer blasts.
Purohit was arrested by the Mumbai Anti Terrorist Squad for his alleged role in the
Malegaon blast.
Sadhvi's father: 'Pragya's innocent'
Purohit claimed during the test that Pandey had taken his help to set up a terror wing.
He further revealed that Pandey had introduced him to another accused Sadvi Pragya
Singh. While introducing him to the Sadhvi, Pandey had asked Purohit that he should
provide logistic support to carry out terror attacks in various places.
Purohit said during the test that Pandey had set up a terror wing with 800 men and he
asked Purohit to help in the training process. He said the men were being trained to
execute terror strikes in different parts of the country. Purohit said during the test that the
idea was to give a fitting reply to organisations such as the Students Islamic Movement
of India and also create a sense of fear among Islamic outfits responsible for spreading
terror.
'You can't plan Malegaon blast in one day'
He further said that Pandey ran an ashram in Ahmedabad [Images] and provided
shelter to several anti-social elements. These persons were used to carry out terror strikes
in the country. He also gave information on the source of the explosives and also the
funding for the terror strikes (source not mentioned as it would hamper investigation).
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During the narco-analysis test, the investigators got a lot of vital information from Purohit
and it was based on these results that the ATS managed to nab Pandey from Kanpur.
+++++++++++++++++++
Hindu extremists behind Samjhauta,
Ajmer blasts?
Saturday, November 15, 2008
http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080072726
Hindu extremists involved in Malegaon blasts may also be behind Ajmer and Samjhauta
Express blasts, sources have told NDTV.
They say Aseemanand, Dayanand and Sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur met at Shabari
Kumbh at Dangs.
The group then began to meet regularly to plan attacks.
Police also suspect the group could be behind the Ajmer dargah blast in February 2007.
The man who planted Ajmer bomb was killed by the group. They may also be behind
Samjhauta Express blast, sources say. Leaders of mainstream Hindutva groups were
aware of their activities, they add.
The development comes even as Lt Colonel Prasad Purohit, the first serving Indian Army
officer to be held in a terror-related case, has reportedly confessed to his role in the
Malegaon blast during his narco-analysis test in Bangalore.
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Shocking first: Woman held in a 2002
Gujarat riot case
Sat, Nov 15, 2008
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/shocking-first-woman-held-in-a-2002-gujarat-r...
3.html
RIOT CASE: Gita has charged with supplying kerosene used for burning down houses.
New Delhi: Gujarat Police have arrested a woman for the first time in a case related to
the 2002 Gujarat riots. Gita Rathod has been arrested for her role in the infamous
Naroda Patia riots of 2002. She was arrested by a Special Investigation Team (SIT) on
Thursday and her police custody will end on Sunday.
Metropolitan Magistrate KB Magnani had sent Gita to police custody till November 16.
The SIT, which was specially constituted by the Supreme Court to re-investigate into
some riot cases of 2002, will seek her further remand to ascertain where she procured
the kerosene from.
Gita has been charged with supplying kerosene used for burning down houses in the
Ahmedabad suburb in which 89 people were killed.
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Malegaon blast: UP religious leader
an NDA dropout
Thu, Nov 13, 2008
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/malegaon-blast-up-religious-leader-an-nda-dro...
3.html
IN THE NET: ATS has already arrested a sadhvi and a serving Army officer in the
Malegaon blast case.
New Delhi/Mumbai Self styled spiritual guru Dayanand Pandey alias Swami Amritanand
Dev, who was arrested on Wednesday by Maharashtra Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS) in
Kanpur in connection with the September 29 Malegaon bomb blast, has been taken to
Mumbai for further investigation.
The ATS has got three-day transit remand for Pandey to take him to Mumbai.
Pandey, the head of a math in Jammu, is a National Defence Academy (NDA),
Khadakwasla, Pune dropout. Pandey was for NDA in 1989 and was in training for five-six
months and then ran away. He was training at the Air Force Wing.
Police also raided a temple in Faridabad on Thursday for evidence against Pandey in
the blast case.
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Police sources say that Pandey made frequent visits to the Chakradhar Mata temple
situated in Anagpur village in Faridabad.
Who is involved in Northeast
Who is involved in Northeast India, Andhra PRADESH,West Bengal, Chhatisgarh, Bihar, Jharkhand, Maharashtra. Throw all of them out.
To the guy who said: ISLAM is the root of Terrorism
Terrorist Can Learn Marathi.........
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 30 November 2008 - 5:31am.
To fool people so that they will not get any doubt about them ....terrorist can speak marathi fluently........but its true that....ISLAM is the root of Terrorism........
Dude !! . . . . Terrorists can say Marathi . . wow !! now don't say terrorists wanted to kill Hemant karkare and the other two officials in order to divert the attention to hindus and that karkare's wife accepted it on air, that, karkare was continously threatened by parties (political)[still video is on youtube, amazing the shadow forces have not wiped out that until now]. It was said that karkare and the other two were killed chasing the terrorists but the creepy thing is that they were shot in back, Karkare was shot in neck. So, actually they were being chased or might be any thing else, like, it was also said that he was killed near a CID quarters.
You say Muslims are terrorists . . . amazing . . . you know why Karkare was killed, it was because he was about to resolve the Samjhota Xpress case in which about 65 Pakistanis were burnt alive on the soil of India , Karkare found that those who executed the attack were BJP terrorists and they were supplied with RDX and TNT by a working military personal. Congress was in govt. and so police (karkare) was working for them and for truth but was killed by BJP's terrorists just before announcing the result. (who were the Muslims being burnt or those burning them.)
In Gujraat Narindar Moodi burnt 5000 Muslims alive . . who is the terrorist and now he is on large not only on large but is rewarded with a seat in national assembly or some other seat.
In Kashmir, Palestine, Chachenia, Bosnia, Iraq and so on, up till now how many millions of Muslims have been burnt alive, women raped and childeren slaughtered alive but still you say that Muslims are terrorsits . . How shameful you don't care about human life . . . . . . Still you say Muslims are terrorists . . . OH ! GOD . . . Dude don't you have a brain to think and understand the difference.
The 9/11 mysterous incident . . . can you guys just imagine someone living his life in caves and deserted mountains of Afghanistan can launch an attack such as 9/11 on america . . . come on !!! dont b childish . . . . people who were working ther when interviewed in a program "Loose Change"/"Khotay sikkay" told that some mysterious activities were taking place inside twin towers for the last week before the incident, they told that some heavy amount of sealed stuff was being loaded into the towers and the civil engineers told that the steel bars used in the tower's making were made tough enough to with stand a plane crash but amazingly the planes cockpits were modified to penetrate the towers (can some one imagine those few terrorists modifing the planes) and the towers are scene falling down every one can see the explosions that occurs beneath the falling stack of the building what were causing them . . . there were bombs already set in there by experts. . . no one can do that in that quantity without managements authorization.
Similar is the case of mumbai attacks . . . there are people who always think against Muslims, In 1948 when Israel was made and Pakistan rejected its creation . . . Israeli president announced to his people that our only enemies are Muslims and among them the most prior are Pakistanis. Jew zionists allied with christian zionists in 9/11 against Afghanistan and now they have allied with Hundu zionists (Hindutva) against Pakistan.
India itself is a threat for america as an emerging super power so it is in favor of jews zionists and christian zionists or new con.s to wage a war b/w the two and torn both the countries in many parts as already India is in danger of getting torned into 20 countries and Pakistan into two or three.
So, dude its the third party, the shadow forces who worked in the Nariman house to plan the attack and was helped by BJP's terrorists and who's commandos were present there to respond to the attacks . . God knows who told them to be there before the attacks when only one israeli was killed in the attack and 46 Muslims were killed . . . and according to another gut Zaid Hamid the guys who are claimed to be Ajmal/amir/asim Kasab/kasav etc etc is named amar singh and his colleague so called Ismail Khan was Heera Laal . . . therfore, be in sequence dude and remember that United the middle east stands, the long it will stand.
Peace can only come if India negotiates a final settlement on Ka
The long term solution is not a matter of mere security measures. If India wants to end terrorism, firstly it should negotiate a final settlement on Kashmir.
The bad blood between India and Pakistan is because of it. Accept the reality that Kashmir is disputed territory.
India should not have tried to keep Kashmir as by the rules of partition, contiguous Muslim majority areas in the north west should have gone to Pakistan.
The decision to partition India was endorsed by the Hindu leaders including Patel, so you go by the agreed rules.
Kashmir was the home of Pandit Nehru, India's first and greatest PM, so he wanted to have it. In that case, India should have integrated the people of Kashmir. But India could not succeed in Kashmiri integration because of the underlying mistrust constantly created by the Hindu communalists. When Musharaff and Vajpayee tried to reach an agreement, Advani is reported to have sabotaged it.
PAKI'S ISI & INDI'S RSS - RSS IS MORE POISNOUS THAN THE FORMER
WELL EVERYONE KNOWS WHO HAVE DONE IT BUT THIS IS ALSO TRUE THAT:
1. ALL THE INTELIGENCE & OTHER INSTITUTIONS RESPONSIBLE FOR GAURDING & KEEPING EYE FOR THE TROUBLE MAKERS ARE/WERE MANNED BY THE UPPER CASTE (READ RSS/BJP/BAJ RANG DAL/VHP ETC).
TIMING
2. THE NEXT DAY ENGLAND CRICKET TEAM WERE TO REACH THE TAJ HOTEL, YET THE TERRORIST STRUCK FEW HOURS BEFORE.....
3. IT WAS CARRIED OUT JUST BEFORE THE DAY OF VOTING FOR STATE ELECTION GOVERNING SPECIFICALLY THE BJP RULED STATES ( SO THAT ANTI INCUBENCY & NON PERFORMING COULD BE HIDDEN IN THE VEIL OF JINGOISTIC PATRIOTISM & ANTI MUSLIM FEELING CAN BE SPREAD).
4. BJP'S (WHO FERRIED & ESCORTED TERRORIST, THE BRIBE EATER FROM THE COFFINS OF KARGLIN JAWAN, IN THEIR PERIOD WE SAW PARLIAMENT ATTACK, ETC) TOP GUN WENT ON MAKING THE MUMBAI ATTACK AS CONGRESS FAILURE TO ALL THIS STATE IGNORING THE ALL PARTY MEET ON MUMBAI ATTACK.
5. THE OBC FOOT SOLDIER OF UPPER CASTE NARENDRA MODI WENT TO KARKARE'S HOUSE WITH ONE CRORE (ON THE DAY HE WAS KILLED ) TO HAND OVER TO HIS WIFE :) IT REMINDS ME OF SIMILAR TACTICS BY THE THARKI COW EATING ATAL (NOT BIHARI) VAJPAYEE WHO DISTRIBUTED SAREE & BRA ETC TO THE OBC / DALITS WOMEN WHICH GOT FIRE :) HERE TOO SHAMELESS MODI GOT KCIKED BETWEEN THE LEGS BY KARKARE'S FAMILY MEMBER .... BUT WHAT ONE CAN DO WHO DOES NOT HAVE BALLS.
AGAIN AND AGAIN ITS KNOWN FACT HOW RSS/VHPBAJRANG DAL ROLE IN
DURING THE OBC KINGDOM OF ASHOCKA, NANDA & MAURYA.
DURING THE SHIVAJI CORONATION.
PRE INDEPENDENCE DAYS
DURING EMERGENCY
DURING COMMUNAL RIOT
DURING BABRI MASJID DEMOLITION
DURING 1993 RIOT IN MUMBAI
DURING GODHRA CARNAGE
AND NOW IN
MUMBAI TERRORIST ATTACK.
RSS & ISI THESE ARE THE ONLY ONES GAINING THE FANATIC ON EACH SIDE....
CONGRESS TOO READ ( THE BRAHMANS)
HINDUTVA IS NOTHING BUT BRAHMANS GAURDING THEIR OWN INTEREST & THE BRAHMNICAL ORDER AND KEEPING THE SHUDRA & ATI SHUDRA OUT OF THE REACH OF ALL THE BENIFITS WHICH COULD MAKE THEM PROGRESS (SMALL CONCESSION CAN BE GIVEN TO THE UPWARD MOBILE FEW SHUDRA FELLOWS BUT THE BASIC STRUCTURE TO BE INTACT BRAHMANS ON THE TOP, FEUDAL SYSTEM WITH THE KSHATRIYA'S AND THE BUISSNESS WITH THE BANIA'S). CALL IN NAME OF HINDUTVA IS FOR GETTING THE SHUDRA AND ATI SHUDRA ON THIER SIDE THERBY MAKING THEM FORGET THE ATTROCITIES OF UPPER CASTE TOWARDS THEM AND TO KEEP THEM IN SUCH HOLLOW UNITY OF FALSE HINDU IDENTITY THEY PROPOGATE THE PERCEIVED MUSLIM ATTROCITIES HA HA HA.
BRAHMNAS, KSHATRIYA AND VAISHIA'S WE CAN UNDERSTAND AS THEY ARE GAURDING THEIR FOREFATHERS FIEFDOM BUT WHAT ABOUT THE SHUDRA & ATI SHUDRA.
WAH RE SHUDRA!!!!!
RSS did the targetted killing & dressed it as terrorist strike
RSS (Hindutva) will eventually destroy Hinduism and India. RSS killed Karkare. Its all very clear. Hindus are understanding the RSS "game" of hate-bank politics !
MANAK PRABHU- reply by anonymous for your consideration.
THE TRUTH BEHIND MUMBAI ATTCK- PAKI ARMY DID IT.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 27 December 2008 - 4:50am.
Allegation galore exist about Mumbai attack.
1. Anthulay says Hindu Fanatics did it to kill ATS officers who were proceeding against Pandit and Pagya.
2. One anonymous says it was done by Congress and Antulay to prevent ATS declaring Pragya and Pandit innocent which will result in Hindu backlash to Congress
2. Another anonymous say DAWOOD did it to hide his drug smuggling from Afghanistan which is linked to Islamic terrorism, ISI and the arming of Taliban.
But the truth is.......... PAKI ARMY AND ISI DID IT
The PAKI ARMY and the ISI did it hoping for a military retaliation from India so that PAKI ARMY can extricate from the Afghan Border where they are being forced by USA to kill PAKI MUSLIMS. PAKI ARMY is facing mutiny like situation as the attack on MUSLIMS is against the corner stone of PAKI ARMY ideology which is protection of ISLAM. Now, even though India has refused to retaliate militarily, PAKI ARMY is progressing with the preparation for war by withdrawing from Afghan Border and moving it's forces along Indian Border. This will be confirmed by Zardari in 4-5 years when he will be overthrown by PAKI ARMY and will be living in London, similar to what EX-PM Sharif said about KARGIL WAR, that Musharaff double crossed him!!!
Mumai attack
The idealogy of Islam promotes suppression of equal rights of people belonging to non-muslim faiths. Hence this idealogy is false and not from God. This idealogy must be opposed and destroyed by all non-muslims and right thinking muslims for the welfare of our descendents. The idealogy must be opposed until the vast majority of muslims agree that non-muslims too should be given equal rights to worship in all muslim countries, including Saudi-Arabia.
The free world must launch a brutal idealogical frontal-attack on Islam, since the vast majority of muslims support instituinalized discrimination based on this false idealogy.
Respond to the false allegations.
‘O human kind, We have created you from a single pair of male and female, and have divided you into nations and tribes, so that you shall recognize each other, not that you shall despise each other, and the most honoured in the sight of Allah (swt) is the person who has Taqwa – and Allah is all knowing, full of knowledge, and well acquainted with all things.’ Surah Hujurat, Chapter No. 49, Verse No. 13, This Verse of the Glorious Qur’an says that…‘O humankind, We have created you from a single pair of male and female’ – that means the whole human race originates from a single pair of male and female. All the human beings in the world – they have a common grandparent. And Allah (swt) says that, We have divided the human race into nations and tribes, so that they shall recognize each other, not that they shall despise and fight amongst themselves.’ And the criteria for judgment, in the sight of Allah (swt) – this verse says… ‘Does not depend on sex, caste, colour, creed or wealth – but it depends, on Taqwa – that is God consciousness, that is piety, that is righteousness. Anyone who is more righteous, who is more pious, who is more God-conscious, is honoured in the sight of Allah (swt) – and Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted with all things. Further the Glorious Qur’an says in Surah Ar-Rum, Ch. No. 30, V. No. 22, that… ‘And amongst His signs, is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the variation in your languages, and your colours. Verily in that, is a sign for those who know?’ The Glorious Qur’an says that Allah (swt) has created various types of languages and different colours… black human being, white, brown, yellow – and these are signs. These variations in colour and language, is not to despise each other, because every language that you have on the face of the earth. In Surah Anam, Ch. 6, V. 159, that... ‘Anyone who divides the Religion into sects – you have nothing to do with him. Allah will tell him about their affairs, on the Day of Judgment. The Glorious Qur’an says in Surah Hujurat, Ch. 49: V. No. 11 and 12 that … (Arabic)… ‘Oh ye who believe, let not some men among you laugh at the others – You may never know, that the latter may be better than the former. Let not some women among you, laugh at the other – You may never know, that the latter may be better than the former. Do not defame one another, nor be sarcastic or call each other with nicknames. Avoid suspicion, for in many cases suspicion is a sin. Do not spy on one another, do not backbite, do not speak ill of one another behind their backs. Are you ready to eat the dead meat of your brother?’ The Qur’an says that...‘If you backbite, if you slander any one behind their backs, it is as though you are eating the meat of your dead brother.’ And eating the meat of your dead brother is a double sin – Eating dead meat itself is prohibited – eating meat of your dead brother is double crime. Even the cannibals who eat human beings, they do not eat the flesh of their brother. So if you backbite, if you speak ill about somebody else behind their back, it is a double crime – it is eating the meat of your dead brother. And the Qur’an gives the answer... ‘Allah (swt) says... ‘Nay you will abhor it... No one would like it.’ The Qur’an says in Surah Humuzah, Ch. 104: V. No. 1 … (Arabic)…‘Woe to every kind of scandal monger and backbiter.’ All these laws of moral conduct given in the Glorious Qur’an and the Sahih Hadith
What lies!
This article says that two of the terrorists spoke in Marathi! How difficult is that to learn for a Pakistani? These are baseless arguments to shield the real deal!
This is a Paki propoganda as always a poor one to hoodwink the world. Shifting the blame on others for their incompetencies to deal with Terror camps in their own country. How easy it was for the Paki government to catch the LET head in one nights operations...what does that tell us?
Learning a new language
Learning a new language isn't easy Mr.
How many ppl live in India and speak Marathi.. only few..or the ppl who live in that state.
If, what India blames that the terrorists came from Pakistan, then how can they be speaking fluent Marathi? Look up in ur sleeves first b4 pointing fingers at others. And rest assured, when u point a finger at someone else, three fingers r point towrds urself too. Don't blindly beleive what INdian media shows and says. Its just brainwashing the indian brains and infesting them with rubbish thoughts!. Thanks.
Why was Mumbai carnage created? Who gains and who looses!
Dear all,
I read the whole string. It is unfortunate that the deaths of God's creations has created more divides. There is ONE GOD and time and again HE has send the same message over and over again in every religion. Religion is actually a "Socio-economic order". It guides us of our duties and rights within our family, our village, our city, our country and globally. When the "socio-economic order" is disturbed by man-made greed, it creates wars! War's, first step is to create ‘reasons of war’ to manipulate people’s mind so they can go to war, to acheive the 'economic' part of the 'socio-economic' balance. This manipulation is done at all levels, domestic, regional, national, international and even out-of the world (space).
After all it is a mini-wars when two blood 2 brothers fight within the same religion on money, property & power, in villages we fight for land and crops, in cities we fight for plots and money, and political power, and internationally we fight for bigger resources (oil, gold, gas, markets, political influence & mental colonization). Religion is injected to fuel the reasons to manipulate and motivate people to fight. External forces inject religion, caste, language and ethnicity to divide, so the external forces can rule the divided locals. Remember Afghan Mujahedeen war’s where key reason was to draw USSR is long battle to economically destroy it, which it did. Someone created it as a ‘religious war’. Remember war’s are economic drains. See what Iraq war has it done for USA draining the economy, just like the earlier Vietnam war.
The 'to-be' aggressor or the one who is looking for that “economic gain” creates ‘reasons’ of disagreement to seed the conflict (war) to achieve his 'economic' power. Remember East India company! Remember the China’s opimum wars, and colonization of Africa, Far-east, Middle-east in 17th-20th centery, the slave trade to America. Some of you mentioned Saudi-Arabia, Iran & Iraq. If they had no oil, would there be wars?. The forces to be would have treated them like Somalia! Reasons for wars are created, and we don't know from what is the ultimate motive behind it? Who is the key player and who it’s smaller players are? For those of you in trade, what happens when a big distributor raises the price, or reduces the price of your produce! They manipulate your economic viability.
So, coming to Mumbai attack! There are a lot of questions you need to think of with a open mind, and always keep in mind who is to gain out of this event!
1. Was it created as an internal political battle to discredit Congress?
2. Was it an event created to induct ‘Pakistan’ to show congress weakness for political gain?
3. Was Pakistan factor inducted to create a Hindu-Muslim carnage? Who gains?
4. Why was Israel induced into it? Why were the Israeli commando’s on stand-by inside India? What are they doing in India?
5. Can Kashmir solution according to UN resolution be achieved? Kashmir is a ticking bomb too, so was Mumbai the fuse?
6. Is the Israeli interest to take out Pakistan nuclear bomb using the new war on Kashmir as ‘hidden agenda’? Will that help Israel to become a regional power in Middle-East?
7. Geo-politically who gains/looses if Kashmir is resolved and India and Pakistan as good neighbors?
8. Geo-politically, who gains out of India-Pakistan war? China, Russia, USA, Israel?
9. Geo-politically is it to bring India into Afghanistan conflict to ease pressure on NATO?
10. Can India replace NATO to fight with Taliban-Pakistan from Kashmir-to Afghanistan?
11. Is the war being created by a 3rd party to eliminate Pakistan for a realignment of international borders to contain China, Iran and Russia ?
12. If Pakistan is cornered, it will use the atomic bomb? So will India and both countries will suffer for next 100 years from fallouts. Who gains from this destruction?
13. If BJP wins, can they eliminate 160M muslims of India? If the answer is yes, then who is next, and if the answer is NO, then why the plots?
Lets discuss this in this context….
Regards…may God bring all of us peace and tranquility.
REPLAY TO 13 TJQ QUESTIONS
Q1,2. Discrediting Congress was not the aim. The PAKI ARMY and ISI sponsored the MUMBAI attack hoping for BJP like response from Congress and massing of Indian soldier on Paki Border so that PAKI ARMY can withdraw from Afghan Border where they are being forced by USA to KILL ISLAMIC TALIBAN TERRORIST which is leading to mutinies amongst PAKI MUSLIM SOLDIERS. But Congress is smarter than BJP and did not fall for it creating more problems for PAKI ARMY.
Q3. Hindu Muslim carnage in India can be only done by Indians. If we decide to remain united it can not happen.
Q4. To fight terrorism (no religion mentioned) which kill innocent AAM ADMI, we should take the assistance of even the DEVIL. So Israel is a lesser evil.
Q5. Paki Army attacked Kashmir in 1947 and India went to UN. The first clause for settling the issue is PAKI ARMY to withdraw from POK. Let that be met so that we can progress.
Q6. Taking out Paki nuclear bomb is good for India. USA, Russia, China or Israel takes it out is immeterial.
Q7, 8. India and Pakis will lose irrespective of who gains.
Q9, 10 If USA offers Rs ONE LAKH per month per soldier as pay and equip them even INDIAN MUSLIMS will volunteer to fight in Afghanistan.
Q11. With PAKI ARMY AND ISI controlling Pakistan irrespective of the type of Govt you don't need 3d party. They are 1st, 2nd, 3d, to Ntn party.
Q12. PAKIS using nuclear weapon?? Are you a Paki.
Q13. Why cann't BJP win with the support of Indian Muslims?? If 40 MPs of BJP won because of MUSLIM Support and ADVANI becomes PM won't MODI be sacrificed to ensure that the BJP ADVANI remains PM. Can Congress remove MODI as long as people of Gurjath elect him. LET THE MUSLIMS VOTE FOR BJP AND MAY BE THINGS WILL CHANGE FOR THE BETTER FOR THEM. 60 YEARS OF VOTE BANK SUPPORT TO SOME PARTIES HAS MADE YOU DEPENDENT ON A "SACHHAR" FOR ECONOMIC UPLIFTMENT.
False flag and black ops are
False flag and black ops are specialisms and trade marks of the CIA and Mossad.
There are many examples from the history of the last fifty years or so.
Whenever there are terrorist attacks one has to be careful about where to attribute the blame because ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.
American has a long-term interest in Iraq (oil!). It has a long-term interest in what was the former Yugoslavia (oil pipelines). It has a long-term interest in Afghanistan (oil pipelines). It has an interest in Georgia (oil pipelines) and Azerbaijan (oil). It has an interest in the disintegration of Pakistan (pipelines through Baluchistan). It has a long-term interest in Central Asia (oil) and it has a long-term interest in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia and Iran (oil).
Make no mistake about it, the politics of energy, particularly of oil and gas, is at the bottom of of the military aggression in the world today. Weapons of mass destruction, seeking to develop weapons of mass destruction, violation of human rights, are all excuses given to justify military aggression, with or without UN approval, for securing oil/gas and its transport from the Middle East and Central Asia.
Don't rule out CIA/Mossad complicity in the Mumbai attacks. The Americans have made no secret that they have Pakistan in its sights.The RSS hindu support only increases this theory,to come to power as nationalist party,in a clean sweep in coming elections.India is also having troops on FATA bordering Afganistan,giving support for independent Balochistann dismembering Pakistan.
zionist RSS hand
The family of a Chabad Center victim has refused to accept an Israeli representative in their son's funeral, saying he was anti-Zionist.
The family of Hasid Aryeh Leib Teitelbaum, who was killed in Mumbai attacks last week, also refused to allow the coffin of their son to be covered with Israeli flag.
"Holding a Zionist funeral for Teitelbaum, who was a Satmar Hasid, would desecrate the dead man's honor," Israeli daily Yediot Ahronot quoted a family member as saying.
"I'm sending a message from the family. We don't want the State to meddle in our grief. Suddenly Israel has an interest to show the world that it is also a victim of global jihad, so it decides to throw a big ceremony with a coffin wrapped in a flag. We object to this. It pains us and offends our values," Shmuel Pfenheim of the Haredi Community anti-Zionist stream was quoted by the newspaper as saying.
He added that he himself had been an American citizen, and although he had a resident in Israel he wasn't an Israeli national.
Unidentified gunmen attacked Mumbai's Chabad center on Wednesday night. At least nine people were killed in the attack.
THE TRUTH EXIST FOR THOSE WHO TRULY CARE
QUESTIONS TO B ANSWERED.SEEMS RSS MOSSAD INC. DID IT.
Is the senseless attack on Mumbai and the heartless killings of innocent people on Thursday 27 a pretext to unleash a campaign to slaughter Muslims as it was done in the aftermath of the 9/11 events in New York and Pensylvania? The ever growing Washington. London, Tel Aviv and New Delhi axis buttress this fear.
Will the Hindu extremist forces, which hijacked Indian politics under the umbrella of Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, RSS, unleash, yet another anti Muslim pogrom or prepare the ground to invade and turn Pakistan into another Iraq?
These are some of the questions lingering the minds of Muslims all over in the aftermath of the Mumbai carnage last week. This fear emanates from the fact that this exactly what happened in the aftermath of the 9/11 events in New York when the most detestable US President George Bush, backed by disgraced British Prime minister Tony Blair, unleashed a global campaign demonizing Islam and Muslims to implement their evil designs.
Since then almost every independent inquiry into the WTC attack came to one conclusion. And that was neither Al Qaeda nor any other Muslim had anything to do with it”. However, the evil forces behind this tragedy had done the damage .They continue the anti Muslim campaign unabated hand in glove with Europe, Russia, India , China and with the active collaboration of Arab dictators. The pro Jewish Western media, which remains an integral part of Western war machine, has been in the forefront in selling the myth that Muslims promote terrorism.
As expected, even before a suspect was captured the Western media joined by the Indian media, began involving Islamic militants to mislead people all over.
First, an unknown group called Deccan Mujahedeen was blamed. The question is how such a sophisticated, well coordinated ,simultaneous and multiple attack was planned and executed by such an unknown group without being detected by the Indian intelligence services?
Within hours, Lashker e Taiba ,fighting Indian rule in Kashmir, was accused. Then the Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh accused a group based in a neighboring country- obviously meaning Pakistan .Traditionally Indian governments blame neighboring Pakistan or Bangladesh and swiftly arrest members of banned Students’ Islamic Movement of India, SIMI, for attacks on Indian soil .Singing the chorus the United States too accused Lashker e Tayeba.
Condemning this as a beastly act, Indian Muslim leaders demanded that the perpetrators be brought to justice while observing that such a massive attack that requires a lot of preparation, material and logistic support, could not take place without the connivance of some high placed power or backer. They urged for all to rise above politics, face this threat in unity and refrain from using it for petty political ends.
They also requested the authorities not to rush to any conclusion as it was routinely done in the past, but to patiently probe taking into account the various local and foreign powers, including foreign intelligence agencies, which may benefit from this chaos and insecurity.
However, this statement failed to draw the attention of Indian and foreign media.
By the time, the only surviving suspect, wearing a red thread around the wrist, a Hindu tradition, was taken into custody the media managed to brainwash people that it was the Muslims who were behind these attacks.
During the past few months, there has been a spate of bomb explosions in different parts of India and the police, as a rule, suspected, arrested, tortured and even killed Muslim youths.On September 29, there was a bomb blast in Malegaon that claimed six lives.
In this connection, five people were detained by the Anti Terrorist Squad ,ATS, in Pune. The detained five included two army officers ,one of them a Major (Retd) Prabhakar Kulkarni , heading the Bhonsala Military School and College run by the Central Hindu Military Education Society, and three Hindu activists -Sadhvi Pradnyasingh Thakur, a so called female saint, Shivnarayansing Kalsangram and Shyam Sahu. They were blamed for a series of deadly bombings in Malegaon in September, which were initially blamed on Muslim militants.
The arrest of especially the female saint Sadhvi, with close links to Hindu extremist forces, alarmed the BJP and other Hindu extremist parties.
Hemant Karkare, Maharashtra Anti-Terrorism Squad ,ATS, chief,was about to disclose these Hindu militants’ involvement in the recent bombings in India and he came under severe criticism by the Hindu extremist forces including the BJP.Indian media reported on November 27 that Hemant Karkare had received death threats days earlier over his plan to unravel the Hindu terrorist cell. The Press Trust of India news agency reportedly received phone calls on November 26 threatening to blow up within days the residence of Karkare known for his discipline and integrity.
The unanswered question is why would the terrorists, if as alleged they were Muslims, kill Karkare who was about to expose Hindu terrorism? The irony is that all three ATS officers, Hemant Karkare, DIG Ashok Kale and encounter specialist Vijay Salazar, were eliminated during last week’s attack on Mumbai.
In another development journalist and human rights activist Amrish Mishra have accused Israel’s secret service agent Mossad and the RSS for the attack on Mumbai. Moreover, they attacked the Taj Hotel, a precious heritage building which reminds the Mogul rule in India which the Hindu extremists, who wanted to wipe out all traces of Islam and Muslims in their drive to set up a Hindu Raj in India, hate.
Describing the attack as grave as the killing of Mahatma Gandhi and the demolition of Babri Masjid, Mishra claimed that the killing of brave ATS officers who could have shown the real face of the saffron terrorism created suspicion. Besides the starting of the firing from Nariman House where substantial numbers of Jews live, showed that this was an anti-national act of terror involving Mossad’s hand, because this kind of attack is just not possible by RSS alone. it was the joint ‘effort’ of Mossad and RSS.
Mishra clearly saw in the TV that Hemant Karkare was wearing the helmet for the confrontation and was shocked to hear after half an hour that he was killed. After the attack, some miscreants had come on the road with saffron flags chanting anti-Muslim slogans but people drove them out.
Those who are very much in touch with the situation did not seem to believe that these attacks are the handy work of any Muslim terrorist organization because they know the forces behind these attacks.
Talking to TV channels, many pointed out that the number of Jews started to increase at Nariman House arousing suspicion forcing them to lodge a complaint with the police which failed to take any action. They believe that this tragedy could have been averted had the police acted on the complaint. Besides people around the area had stated that, on Wednesday night Jews at Nariman House had purchased and stocked food stuff and even liquor from a local store. It is highly unlikely that a Muslim, let alone a ‘Mujahid’, and especially one politicized enough to carry out such an attack, would consume liquor in normal life, let alone hours before his inevitable ‘martyrdom’.
India is one country, which managed to maintain good relations with Israel ever since its inception while showing a friendly face to the gullible Arab dictators. These ties between Zionist Jews and especially the RSS, bonded together by their inherent hatred towards Muslims, flourished since the two countries established diplomatic ties following the signing of late PLO Chairman Yasser Arafat’s sham of Oslo Peace Agreement with Israel.
According to Mishra the heroic death of Hemant Karkare has left the BJP-Shiv Sena combine with eggs on their faces. On Friday, Narendra Modi, BJP’s poster-boy chief minister and Hindutva mascot, paid lofty tributes to Karkare and other senior cops who lost their lives in the counter attack. However, before his death on duty, Karkare and his colleagues at the ATS were at the receiving end of almost a slanderous attack not only by BJP and Shiv Sena leaders, but also by several Sangh Parivar organizations for the ongoing ATS probe into the Malegaon blasts.
In fact, it is worthy to recall that few months ago there was a deadly attack against the US embassy in the Yemeni Capital Sanaa. As expected Muslims were accused. However, the Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh later disclosed that the attack was linked to Israeli intelligence service-Mossad.
Few simple rational questions to think about this attack were;
1. Can anyone in the world remember or worry about the case against Hindu terrorist cell, which was unveiled by Maharashtra’s ATS chief Hemant Karkare? Now it is successfully diverted. Isn’t it?
2. Where is Karkare now? Wasn’t he wiped out from this world by the terrorists at the initial stage of this Drama?
3. Why didn’t Indian forces or any media show a single dead body of terrorist during the first two days?
4. How can the so-called “foreign terrorists” continue to fight for more than two days without worrying about the stock of the weapons? They had been blasting, shooting and setting fires here and there. Did they bring such a large quantity of military hardware?
5. If so, how did they bring such a large quantity of weapons for this attack? Wasn’t it amazing that they had been getting enough weapons just as if somebody was supplying the ammunition stock to continue the attack successfully?
6. Wouldn’t it any one believe that this kind of barbaric killings can only be done by groups motivated by ultra-racism such as RSS, VHP and the Israeli military?
Explaining the grim situation faced by Indian Muslims Jaipur based human rights activist Kavita Srivastava , President of the Rajasthan chapter of the Peoples’ Union for Civil Liberties said;
“Muslims are being readily branded as terrorists, and soon after the blasts large numbers of innocent Muslims were wrongly suspected as terrorists, arrested and interrogated by the police, and many of them were subjected to cruel torture. The police somehow automatically assume that Muslims were responsible for the blasts, without having any proof. Almost a fourth of those who died in the Jaipur blasts were Muslims,although Muslims account for just about a tenth of the city’s population.
Anti-Muslim bias in agencies of the state is mounting today. Just one instance of this is how some of the Muslims picked up by the police were asked if they believe in the Quran or in the Indian Constitution, this ridiculous question reflecting the entirely erroneous notion that a religious and observant Muslim somehow is a traitor or a potential traitor to India.
And then there is the media. They simply parrot the police version of any Muslim whom it picks up as a terrorist, and when it is found that this person is innocent and is subsequently let off, the media chooses not to say anything about it. So, in this way, the image of large numbers of Muslims is being deliberately tarnished. Many of them have lost their jobs because of this, and are tainted in society for the rest of their lives although they have nothing to do with terrorism.
Questions to be answered.seems RSS MOSSAD INC. DID IT
The gentleman who wrote this article and Amrish Mishra are in the payrole of ISI.
Amrish Mishra is Abdul Wahi, a hyderabadi mulim. A true secular MF.
America is Plotting. Watch Out India.
Yours is simply a brilliant analysis, excellent, well detailed, you have washed the real dirty linen in the public all to see and smell, please publish this in Milli Gazette, Radiance Views, Islamic Voice and other Muslim English newspapers and translate into all Indian languages and try to publish this in all regional at least Muslim newspapers( if the community has the money and orgn to run any?).
PRETEXT PRETEXT that is the UNDERLYING CORE CONCEPT HERE.
You could write several volumes of books on the matter of pretext by the enemies of Islam and enemies of world peace and the colonizers and imperialists...how they hoodwinked and fooled the world by pretexts and started wars and occupation.
We have Iraq right in front of our eyes; Just a month before stepping down in Shame,Junior Bush, without any shame, says Iraq invasion happened because of intelligent failure. Despicable Statement. They say Intelligent failure and then they destroy the entire nation, destroy their culture, make good family women widows, and make them beg and go into prostitution to feed their small children, make 4 million people refugees, kill 1.3 million people and you have the tongue in cheek to say that it was a mistake happened due to intelligent failure....
the world knows American president is lying, it WAS NOT INTELLIGENT FAILURE..... IT WAS A PRETEXT THE intelligence guys were asked to make a finding like this so that America will have a pretext to kill Saddam Hussein the only and only ruler ( in spite of his weaknesses)who was boldly challenging American imperialism.
The motive for the entire Iraqi brutality was to please Israel.
Saddam was paying about US$20,000 to the family of each Palestinian Suicide Bomber… my God at this rate the suicide bombers would have finished off the entire Zionist hegemony and liberated Palestine and so Israel and its God father thought this “brute” Saddam was too dangerous, finish him off, find a pretext., 9/11, Kuwait war, trying to kill senior Bush in Kuwait, killings Shias, WMD, you name it, and that was the pretext ., because all the CIA’s well tried programmes of killing Saddam could not work… so create a pretext and start a major war,
and the former secretary of State Madeleine Albright the Jewish woman said “Well, killing 4 million Iraqi children because of sanctions.. it is worth the price”… in simple English, She meant there is nothing absolutely wrong in killing 4 million Iraqi children to save Israel and control the Middle East oil for American oil companies. Is it not despicable Let any of your readers prove that I am lying on Madeleine’s statement I challenge. This is what America says, the West is in the apex of civilization and culture, and can teach the savages in the East what human value is. They can shed the blood of millions of innocent and call it civilization.
So we may have to wait for may be 5 to 10 years to know the truth about who did and what happened in Bombay.? How many of us knew the story of the bombing of the American Intelligence Ship called Liberty in 1973 in the Middle East. Another pretext.
Who planned and aborted the results of Algerian elections and brought the junta to power? Why? What happened to America’s deceptive principle of democracy in Algeria? In Iran in 1953? Who overthrew Mussadiq and brought the most horrible monarch Shah who became the best friend of Zionists?
The story is long and painful. But it is terribly sad that knowingly or unknowingly India goes along with the secret private axe of America to grind and getting ready to destroy Pakistan. Please punish Pakistan for their wrong doing without violating the international laws of warfare and justice, but do not go along the American thinking of the so called clash of civilization and create a new imaginary enemy called Islam to continue their building the huge American Empire.
ANSWER TO FIVE QUESTION OF ANNONYMOUS
Ans1. It has been relegated to background but investigation will progress as ATS Chief was not conducting a "one man inquiry", that death of a few officials will stop all investigation.
Ans2. Yes he was killed on the first day itself. How he has been killed is given in full details in THE TIMES OF India of 05-12-2008. One constable amongst the group of 7 Police Men in the Qualis is still alive. The dead could have been you or me if it were us there with a car as the terrorist just wanted a car.
Ans3. May Out of respect for the dead. If the AAM ADMI had their way they would have hung it upside down in Choupatti, like TALIBAN did in Afghanistan and my friend would have been happy.
Ans 4, 5. Evidently the truth is not being fully told. The PAKI terrorist had local support. Since the state Govt is controlled by Congress the details are not being given out to "prevent possible backlash like the one at Malegaon against the minorities". Arms and ammunition could have been already stocked at TAJ well in advance as was reported by some TV Channels.
Ans 6.This killing can be done by FANATIC MUSLIMS TOO. Any way the PAKI terrorist attack was launched by PAKI ARMY and ISI so that India reacts militarily and the PAKI ARMY can extricate themselves from Afghan Border where they are being forced by USA to kill ISLAMIC TALIBAN TERRORIST. ISLAM is one of the corner stone of PAKI ARMY and killing of MUSLIMS has resulted in wide spread resentment amongst the PAKI SOLDIERS and 900 PAKI soldiers have ran away from army last year alone. But if PAKI ARMY withdraws from Afghan Border USA would "PREDATORS" to bomb the hell out of the MUSLIMS there. SO THE ATTACK ON MUMBAI BY PAKI ARMY supported TERRORIST. WHY DO YOU THINK ZARDARI WITHDREW HIS COMMITMENT TO SEND ISI CHIEF TO INDIA ON ORDERS OD KAYANI- THE PAKI ARMY CHIEF????
The author is a fit case to migrate to PAKISTAN as he has located "majority community" persecution where there was non. Pakistan was created for people like you who feel that Muslims can not live in a Hindu Majority India. Your parents made a mistake by staying in India WHICH YOU MUST RECTIFY BY GOING TO PAKISTAN.
Lets try not to digress.
People on this thread. I'd like to request for all of us to please 'try' and be civil to one and other. This seems to be an forum where we can come together and share our opinions about what they think happened (based on 'factual' information) or poise questions when something doesnt add up, all in the search for a logical answer or possibly- The Truth. There really is no point venting personal aggression that has, no doubt, been based on prejudice/skewed information that's been passed on from one generation to another.
With regards to my opinion on the matter, to ensure that I'm making an 'educated' statement, I will get back with another comment so please stay posted. Thank You and Jai Hind.
Let us not ridicule each other's beliefs.
I agree with the Indian in Australia.
Contributors should stop using indecent language and ridiculing,
insulting, wantonly discrediting and mocking at each each others
faiths, beliefs and practices... as these will lead to more hatred, misunderstanding and ill will.
Look around our neighborhood, places of work and the bazaar we find people
of all faiths going about their businesses, people of all religions mixing and
meeting each other and transacting businesses.
99.99% of all individuals do not hate others and do not interfere
in each others personal life, only vote getting politics divide the
people particularly at the time of elections.
Destiny has brought people of all faiths together in India, we can and we
have to live as people of one nation avoiding communal tensions and inter-
religious disputes.
Even those who do not believe in God use their own
conscience as a guiding principle to treat others with justice, equality,
and sympathy.
As long as all sections of the nation get a fair share of the
national income and are treated equitably without discrimination and
dominance by any one section or sections of the nation, India can progress
economically and people can be happy and prosperous.
The moderators of Twocircles Net should use their discretion much more
strictly by not allowing hate speech and highly provocative personal
attack to appear on the comments. Peace be with all.
The myth of equality
The equality in Islam and Christianity is a myth. Had it been the case, there would not have been a single dalit in UP and surrounding areas (which were under the Muslim rule for nearly 600 years) or in Kerala where the Missionaries were very active. There are Muslims with surnames like Shah, Patel,Thangal, Syed, Bukhari, Owaisi, etc......Christians with surnames like Panikkar, Nadar, Chettiyar, etc, etc........Christianity reached the shores of Kerala in CE 52 with the arrival of St. Thomas as also Islam reached the shores of Kerala in about 200 years after the death of Prophet Muhammad. What were the wholesale and retail dealers of the "compassionate" religions doing for all these years? Why they have become so concerned about the "dalits" now??
I AM A HINDU CONVERT TO ISLAM I HAVE NO CASTE
YES IN Christianity it is a myth but not in Islam, come to my town Madurai in Tamil Nadu and see for yourself. There are 60 lakh Tamil Muslims and show me Abdul Kadir Nadar, Bakar Mudaliar, Ahmad Chettiar, Sayyid Devar, Mohamad Maravan,
Umar Ali Pillai, Sulaiman Parian, Baksh Kallar, and so on... No way, we do not know the caste of our forefathers, we do not add as Tamil Christians do the castes as I have given in the above example NADAR, MUDALIAR , CHETTIAR, DEVAR, MARAVAN.. PILLAI, KAUNDA, SAKKILIA, are all caste names.Dalits became Muslims hundreds of years ago in Tamil nadu and slaughtered and deeply buried their castes and our great leader E.V.Ramasamy Naikker ( Naikker is a caste name)built a huge palace on our caste burial ground.Do not call him Naikker, his huge followers do harm to you.
If you show I will change from Islam to Hinduism. Islam brought a huge,, HUGE REVOLUTION among the Dalits and backward classes of Tamil Nadu and I do not know about North India, but I guess hte same story. Christianity is a huge failure in India, because it never broke the Caste barrier but Islam did it beautifully, superbly and effectively. As a Hindu convert to Islam I am very proud that Islam brought honour, dignity, respect and a big prestige to me. You are welcome as my guest if you are a Brahmin.
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HASSAN BANNA- comment by a Muslim on caste in ISLAM.
what about discrimination
Submitted by shama zaidi (not verified) on 26 December 2008 - 1:20pm.
what about discrimination against muslim obc staff and students in aligarh muslim university? shouldn't this concern us as well.
Hassan Banna, See the above in Comments on the Topic "Discrimination against Dalits in higher education" by Muslim in Aligarh Muslim University. Now how do you claim that ISLAM HAS NO CASTE SYSTEM?????
IN WHICH MUSLIM WORLD ARE YOU- HINDU CONVERT???
Gilani, Shah, Dar, Pandit(yes, even Pandit is a surname of Kashmiri Muslims), Zardari, Memon, Pathan, Khan, Sayed, Thangal, Bhutto, Naik (Yah of ZAKIR Naik fame)...... all caste surnames of Muslims. The Madurai Muslims may not be having caste names because as I remember all the converted people were DALITS. All UPPER CASTE MUSLIMS HAVE "CASTE" SURNAMES AND THEY PROUDLY PROCLAIM IT WITH THEIR NAMES.
Muslims Got Honour in India-Immaterial of the roots.
You say,Singh Saheb, Quote, The Madurai Muslims may not be having caste names because as I remember all the converted people were DALITS
1. So you agree Madurai Muslims do not have any caste names added to their names, WHY because Islam has effectively killed the caste barriers. But Christianity is a failure even in Madurai in this respect because converted Christians stick to their castes.
2. You say you remember all the converts were Dalits. Were you witnessing the conversion that happened hundreds of years ago? Were you living then.
3. Go around Tamil Nadu and see for yourself from how many Hindu castes, there have been conversion to Christianity… virtually from all castes… Mudaliars are supposed to be high caste Hindus… There are thousands of Mudaliar Christians. Our health Minster belongs to a caste called Vanniar – belonging to Chatriah caste, and you find a very large Vanniar community having become Christians. Exactly same thing happened in the case of Tamil Hindu castes converting to Islam. From Varriars and Mudaliars and Pillais and even Brahmins. Deep research done by Tamil Nadu University scholars have proved this far beyond doubt. You are not aware of this I am afraid.
Again it is immaterial, the vital point is that in Tamil Nadu, converts like me from Hinduism, even assuming that we were Dalits have effectively fulfilled the ambition and desires of Ambedkar several hundred years before he had the vision to destroy the caste system in Hinduism.
And we have become brave, courageous, confident, we have tremendous respect, no tea stall serves us in a shamefully reserved dirty tin tumblers, we go to the Masjids and stand on the first row or any row standing shoulder to shoulder with all other brothers. It is as I said before one of the biggest revolution in the history of India and at the same time we are very proud of our ancient Tamil Language and our Dravidian ancestry the original inhabitants of Indus Valley civilization before the racist Aryans invaded us and chased us out from the north to the south
And look at our occupations even assuming that we were Dalits once. We are successful businessmen, competing with all the Hindu castes in Tamil Nadu, we are no more scavengers, garbage collectors, dead body carriers, cremation helpers ( you allow them to touch the high caste after death not when the guys are alive) and slaves to high caste Hindus, and being equal to any so called high caste Hindu, we are brave enough in saying GO TO HELL if they demand the sort of humble obedience that my poor Hindu Dalit Brothers still fearfully exercise., particularly in villages.
I hope this revolution will spread fast so that the 350 million Dalits will become Muslims one day in India and change the entire culture and attitude and image of India in the world. The Europeans consider us practicing apartheid when it has been outlawed in South Africa under the brilliant leadership of Nelson Mandela.,,, the great Gandhian but the father of our nation was a failure in destroying caste as he was scared of the high caste backlash affecting the main goal of getting independence.
You talk about reservation under BWC… that is a good political strategy, otherwise people like you will swallow all the good jobs.. it is nothing to do with religion. Why not the Indian Government totally abolish reservations and go for reservations based on the economic situation of the person. partly and partly on merits. we are for it, ,we converted Hindus can effectively compete with all. ,
Hell with reservations my people getting Govt., jobs is not that important and my people getting liberated, freedom from the clutches high caste of Hinduism and getting honour and respect is more important… as Muslim we believe if we are honest and hold on to our Iman, God will show us a way to earn and survive… after all this world is a temporary abode and our final destination is far better as Muslims than as slavish Dalit Hindus.
I have seen so many posting on Saudi Arabia and Immigration. Read the postings once again, do not please waste your time repeating the same story .. it is a bit boring.
Islam is not represented by Saudi King or any king for that matter, it is represented by the Takwa based followers like me.
THEN WHY ARE MUSLIMS SEEKING RESERVATION???
HASSANBANNA SAB, you have ignored my claim about upper caste Muslims retaining their surnames all over the WORLD. Forget it. If you are being treated equal as upper caste Hindus in Madurai, why are you seeking reservation???? Are you inferior to the Hindus that you are afraid of competing with them on equal terms.
Go to your final abode- the Muslim heaven- earliest and enjoy yourself. Leave the "KAFIRS- HINDUS- BRAHMINS to DALITS" to suffer in this world- INDIA. WOULD YOU KINDLY PROCEED TO YOUR FINAL ABODE TOMORROW itself????
THAT'S BECAUSE ALL INDIAN MUSLIMS ARE DALIT MUSLIMS
Hassan Banna, Hinduism originated to India and is restricted mostly in India. Hence you will find all caste of Hindus in India itself. But ISLAM has it's origin in Arabian Peninsula and so the UPPER CASTE Muslims are only found in Arabia. All Indian Muslims are considered by Arabs as "DALIT MUSLIMS" unfit to be granted equal status to them. SO INDIAN MUSLIMS ARE CASTE LESS AS THEY ARE ALL DALITS. Muslims themselves are claiming the they are "DALITS" by demanding reservation which is entirely CASTE Based and not on economic criteria. The Muslims of North KERALA have already become OBC- Other Backward Caste. Since you are proud of the caste less Muslim society,why don't you go with a proposal for you son/ daughter's marriage to an upper caste Hindu who has converted to ISLAM or to a SAYID, KHAN, or any MUSLIM from NORTH India??? WHY ARE THE ARAB MUSLIMS NOT GRANTING CITIZENSHIP RIGHTS TO INDIAN MUSLIMS WHILE USA, UK, AND EUROPEAN COUNTRIES GRANT YOU CITIZENSHIP RIGHTS??? IT'S BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WANT THE "INDIAN DALIT MUSLIMS" TO INTER MINGLE WITH THEM. IF YOU WANT FURTHER PROOF ASK HOW THE UP AND BIHAR MUSLIMS HOW THEY ARE TREATED BY PUNJABI AND KASHMIRI MUSLIMS WHEN THEY GO THERE TO WORK.
The fact that ATS chief
The fact that ATS chief Hemant Karkare was dragged out of the vehicle by his killers to make sure that he was dead, speaks a lot. It is common sense that anybody shooting in a mad spree would only want to rush away.
Hemant Karkare was a honest Indian police officer who was bent on exposing and disclosing proof of terror attacks carried out by hindu terrorist outfits and their Israeli connection.
The attacks have been well planned by hindu terrorist outfits with external help(read Pakistan, Israel, the USA) to divert attention from the investigation and disclosures Hemant Karkare was making.
There are thousands of Pakistanis working for Mossad. This all seems to be part of a bigger game by Israel and USA of arms sales and proxy control of India.
This is saga is Drama,
This is saga is Drama, please opne you eyes and think clearly === this only think I ask the Analyst
What is the outcome of this attack?
1. Are the attacker not quite good at thinking what will be the outcome as we seen from the previous attacks
WTC = Two muslim countries,
IRAN Nucs = ban on Iran,
Attack in Pakista Hotel = Domestics violence
Attack in Mumbai = Killing more muslim and put some more pressure and make a ground for another muslim counrty invasion! Isn't that true ---- ? what is the
I understand its very hard for most religion to see how Islam embrases fast and people coming to this circle even with too much Muslim terrorist Bullshit... none of the ways are stopping so the whole Drama of terrorism is created to stop people accepting Islam.. You have to beleive it thats the only fact and all the worlds power are trying to stop it with perks(oil and resources) two kill two birds with one stone -- Destory Muslims with peace and capture their resources!!! THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE and real fact.
So all Hindus. Christians and Jews please do think and understand who is getting benefits... In concise if the Attackers are so intelligent dodging all the securities and plaining violance at multiple places ----> R THEY DUMP TO KNOW WHO GETS THE GLORY..... and whats the use taking IDs and Credit cards with them, I am sure they won't be plaining shopping after creating such Disaster.
No matter how many evidence or assumptions are given -- the western world or the responsible of this attack won't beleive it as it is planed and set propaganda to destroy the Muslims Image and destroy them by doing war againts terroris... Wake up people, Wake up people... it wasn't Muslim who participated in WWI/II it was not Muslim who killed 6 Million Jews, its no Muslims whos responsible shootout at Schools in america oftenly. But it is always Muslim when there is no clear picture of attackers.... I jsut saw the picture of Mumbai people who killed a guy they suspect is Muslin in front of the Police and nobody did nothing.... who ever did the bombing attacking was still not clear but the movie that I watched was crystial clear and I will post it in Youtube,,, clear killing of innocent people by the people in front of the police and thats the other desireable outcome of this Mumbai Attack Drama...... Bullshit.... Bullshitt....
PEACEFUL INDIA
Everybody should understand some truths that blaming each other will not solve the problem. our enemies laughing us.
Very recent incidents shows that BJP can arrange any type of encountering at any moment at any place if they need, because they have hundreds of people ready in their custody for monitoring them as a terrorist.
Now the key factor is that there is powerfull hand activated behind this tragedy and also very clear that the person is nobody else other than MODI. They have done what they had said / thritten to Karkare's family.
The Chief of ATS, Mr Karkare had sent a letter to his friend before his death that should publish to Indians, we want to know the truthfulness. we dont want to escape anybody if they are guilty, we, indians want the real probe which should be revealed it and punished to death the real prisons. Who is benefited for this Terrorist Attack really.
If the MODI is guilty, anybody is there in India to say darely to punish to death.
If anybody come up who will face the same thing of Mr. Karkare in his life.
All Indian should have common words and common thoughts, we should not be rigid minded, we should not hide anything, be open, we should not support any body blindly.
MODI and BJP have proven their terrorist activities several times very clearly.
No body like / dare to mention this even muslims.
Most of their terrorist activities not come out of India due to their power.
when BJP start to gear up in India, we Indians lost our peacefulnes in India. they cannot consider Indians as Indians, even they cannnot consider backward hindus as hindus. Please understand that their target is Muslims first then it is sure next will go to backward hindus. they want power only power they will destroy any thing whatever the disterbances in front of them. wait and see..
A brother.
lol if this was politics..
lol
if this was politics.. the congress would have not agreed that this attack has indeed been done by pakistan - the congress would have taken this oppurtunity to put the blame on bjp!
use ur brains plz before u speak these words....
terrorism is a business now - its a larger political game than one can imagine... do remember the target was to attack as many foreigners as possible... think why would that be - think about which countries would benifit if indian economy was to be affected...
and dont forget... some of the ammunation was china made!
Mumbai Terror - Victory 2 hindutuva,defeat 2 India & Humanity
The most heinous crime i ever watched live on air,i am sure many would agree with me this was the worst terror attack witnessed in our time....I am shocked by the selective silence by the media i hope it is not selective amnesia...
What LoT to do with killing of the ATS chief and the officers behind bringing the truth of malegaon blast to limelight..Hemant Karkare and his associates were killed within few hours of the initial phase of this terror attack...Well the aim of the terrorist was perfectly executed,yet to mislead the whole investigations and to deceive the moderate intellectual voices of our great nation., well planned cold blooded murder went on for over 60 hours.The following incidences was just to hijack their plot!
If the terrorist was on the look out for the foreigners,then why the hell did the terrorist started shooting in the train station,hospital,multiplex...If the terrorist are LoT why do they target civilians mainly dressed in Muslim outfits?more than 35 percent of victims are muslims...!
Their choice of Jewish center and murder mongering on the UK and USA citizen is well planned drama is the best ever deceiving tool....
The result is not only we have lost many of our Indians but also the sincere officers whose abilities just manage to expose the tip of the iceberg of Hindu terrorism which has comfortably down rooted even in to our army jawans,the government who initiated the probe have to pay their price also by resignation just for their mistake of allowing the melagon probe in their state....
The intelligence service have failed to answer on the exact events led to the murder of Mr karkare and his associates....Rightly,one crore offer by Mr.modi was rejected by Mrs.karkare...As she knew who is her husband's killers are?
It's a totall drama played
It's a totall drama played by RSS,VHP and BJP; because the truth is coming out from Mr.Karrare. How come all three officers are encounter, they are encounter specialist. Actually the driver took the officers to some point, where already terriost are there. May be they were hundereds will be there...
God Knows.
GEORGE ARE YOU DUMB OR JUST A MUSLIM!!!!!!
George - Do you not watch TV because QUR'AN prohibits it. IF YOU HAD WATCHED TV YOU WOULD HAVE KNOWN that the Police officers had gone to CAMA hospital to look up a Sub- Inspector of Police who was injured at VT Station (CST) unaware that it was such a major terrorist attack. The terrorist running from CST via CAMA hospital saw the police vehicle and fired on it with AK-47 killing all the three officers and three constables in the vehicle. One constable escaped death by acting as if his dead, and he is under treatment in hospital. The terrorist commandeered the Police Vehicle and was repeatedly shown on TV with terrorist spraying bullet at AAM ADMI. George are you dumb or is it that you are MUSLIM under false name!!!!!
Look into the mirror first
AK Singh, does George have to be a Muslim in disguise to call all this "a drama played by RSS, VHP, BJP, BD"? Are you too blind to see the sufferings of hundreds of Georges during the recent anti Christian riots in Orissa, or you're just a pathetic dumb super-hindu believing "A Hindu can not be terrorist".
BTW I am a sikh, and I've also suffered at your hand.
And yes I'm also a North Indian, who has been kicked and bruised by your Raj Thakery for being a North Indian in Maratha land.
The terror attack was a handiwork of RSS, VHP, Mossad. Proove me wrong.
Hey, some points I noted, 1.
Hey, some points I noted,
1. Terrorist told muslim name on their call to India TV
2. One of the terrorist had a yellow band on his hand, this is not seen anywhere on media before. Normally they have a turban, long beard, etc.,
3. Terrorists were drunk, if they are doing jihad for heaven, they should not drink by islamic principles
4. They spoke Marathi in Cama hospital
5. The only terrorist they caught was taken to some unidentified location within no time. May be police can make him speak all the languages he knows in front of a channel camera
6. Terrorist were selective in killing at Cama hospital
WHAT IF ONE PAKI TERRORIST WAS NOT CAPTURED ALIVE???
Even when ONE PAKI TERRORIST have been captured live and is disclosing the entire plan and Mr Shariff- the Ex-PM of PAKIs have confirmed the nationality of "KASAV" ( under PAKI ARMY pressure he may have changed his statement), the Indian Muslims have been spreading "canard" and rumours and even a MUSLIM CABINET MINISTER could not resist joining in, even though he could have walked up to the President of India demanding an investigation as she was a junior Congress Leader in Maharashtra when Anthulay was the CM of Maharashtra. I dread to think of the situation if NO TERRORIST were apprehended alive. I SALUTE THE MAHARASHTRA POLICE WHO MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR THE CAPTURE OF "KASAV" ALIVE AS THEY HAVE DONE A SERVICE TO THE NATION "FAR EXCEEDING IN IMPORTANCE THAN WHAT THE ENTIRE NSG DID AT TAJ". I HOPE THAT NO MUSLIM WILL COME OUT WITH A FINDING THAT ALL THOSE POLICE MEN WHO WERE INVOLVED IN CATCHING "KASAV" ALIVE WERE SUPPORTERS OF RSS/SHIV SENA.
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dear all,
my friend has done a excellent analyis of the so called facts.but unfortunately his analysis would not save the real people behind the mumbai attack- the ISI.
Can Be Brothers
@ above , its wrong 2 say so , they lived in Mumbai done the servey here, they must have learn't the Language, wats so wrong and Making it such a controvercial topic , the Newspaper can say wat they got 4m peoples .
Why not at least try to think on possible conspiracy theories?
Whoever kills a person [unjustly]… it is as though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he had saved all mankind." (Qur'an, 5:32). Today, we join all Indians Muslims in expressing our outrage and our condemnation of this senseless spilling of innocent blood.
Nevertheless, their is a conspiracy theory for the gruesome incident, if you spare some time, not necessary you buy it :
Important question Who are the beneficieries of Mumbai Terror? Hindu fascist organizations at this time of election 1. Unlike other terrorists, Terrorists in Mumbai have not demanded anything specific? They don't demand release of their co-prisoners nor demanded money... why?? what was their target then? 2. Unlike other Islamic Jehadis with beard and turbans, why Mumbai terrorists came with strange look - they wore jeans and T-shirts; clean-shaved and no turbans nor any sign of muslims terrorists we normally watch on the biased media? 3. And the Terrorists attackers did nothing specifically for ruining western, even Israelis, it was sure if they were Jehadists! Their intention was to take hostages and take a ship and perhaps leave alive as assured by their directors 4. Assumingly beer drinking terrorists;?Jehadi terrorists and alcoholic? however Mumbai Terrorists goes to the cafe and drinks beer before they start firing?? is it? 5. Mumbai terrorists (as shown by media) had close similarities with RSS cadres: Mumbai terrorist wearing an yellow band on his right hand as RSS cadres wears normally (see pictures). 6. Mumbai terrorists immediately find their targets by killing ATS leaders [Hemant Karakare, CP Ashok Kamthe & Vijay Salskar)in early hours of their terror- did they know something?? How terrorists are so specific to clearly choose ATS officers? And the terrorist immediately disappeared from that scene? 7.Only one terrorists is caught alive (?), as all others killed as in every encounter in recent past? 8. Mumbai terrorists are very clear about their targets, they are well experience, about their hideouts in Taj and other places? 9. Prime Minister & Sonia initially visits Mumbai, but no clues or no claims about ISI or Pakistan.. However No. 1 terrorist, Gujarat CM Modi hurry-up to Mumbai and declares that Pakistan is behind the attack without any doubt! [because he is the one who hired them]. Note: no other CMs goes to Mumbai..And he offers rewards to every military men killed of 1 crore unlike PM and LK Advani? Ironically wife of the slain officer turns down his offer. Guys, he is eyeing for the highest post in India. God save India from Modi. Even he offers aid to MahaRastra! from where the hell money is pouring on him. Cheap publicity and stunts as he is famous for. 10. Media was widely reporting that there were IDs of terrorists recovered which shows Malaysian and Mauritious IDs however such references disappeared once Terrorist leader Modi arrived! He has good experience as he did in his Gujrat lab.
12. The timing of Mumbay terror is well planned as Gujrat riots were, just before main elections! 12. We are told that they came from Pakistan by sea? Indian military in the sea were all presumed sleeping?? How many contradictions? coincidences? should happen enabling to carry out such a massive feat? We are told they came by speed boats? Yes, but not from Pakistan but from Gujarat! 13. It took continous 60 hours to stop the terrorism! and most of terrorists as usual got killed and the remaining one will also die for sure since confessed to the coercion statement of involving other usual country, an excuse for inaction. I believe a naked truth is always better than the best dressed lie. But people like Modi believes, To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and whatever you hit, call it the target later. Finally, One question comes to mind, Was it intelligence failure or intentional, intelligent failure?
mumbai terror a puccah work of pakis-dawood-isi nexu.
anybody who has read kaleem's article which pointed doubts towards hindu elements and definitely not islamic terrorists,itself proves that he lacks the least commonsense.the whole world watched the horror and the faces of slain terrorists.those faces resemble more of semitic features and than any those of indian hindu faces.kaleem's argument lacks depth when he says that one of the terrorist wore yellow band which proved that they were hindu terrorists and that too they were drugged.what a baseless argument!mr kaleem do you know even eunuchs would feel ashamed to have you in their group.dont you know this small thing any terrorist would disguise himself in various ways to do his task.the very arguments are in favour of dawood and islamic al qaeda circle.go and tell them they would use you to throw mud at all other faiths and people.people like you are like the aids germ which camaflauges itself;enters human body as a native cell and destroys immune system till he is dead.in this way islam,islamic terrorism andyour arguments just aids and aids' cells and nothing.you better get your eyes removed by an islamic terrorist and go blind for there is not worth for having vision for you dont see what is truth and false.the whole world clearly knows where exactly hindu elements are involved in terror attacks and where not.the world is still immune and shall fight back your islamic argumentative aids viruses successfully. no fool would go by primacie evidence that the terroists who had no turbans,beards, and were drunk were not islamic terrorists.the islamists who brought trade center buildings down also had no beards,wore T-shirts.and when quran prohibits the killings of innocent people why did they kill 3000 innocents in the wto center.it seems you are also deaf,all the world channels witnesses told that terrorists asked for briton and american citizens when they entered taj.you islamic goon those very terrorists killed jews at nariman house.who has utter animosity against jews is a muslim.it is pakistan mulims under laskar e taeba banner under the auspicies of isi and dawood responsible for mumbai terror.if you dont believe this keep barking this to every body on the net you would soon see the entire pakistan burning into ashes out of a nuclear holocaust.there will no be map of pakistan forever and the world will every be free of islamic terrorism. jai hind
Kaleemullah has some points some concoction.
Kaleemullah, you are a genius and your analysis has some excellent presumptions, asssumptions, concoction probably may prove to be true later on, pretexts for attacks, intriguing politics, extraordinary analysis. Why have you left out the Israli link to the tragedy. Please browse the following
web page.http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=333 to find out how much of the internet tells the truth and hou much of it is pure concoction.But Mr. Khaleemullah, whatever the terrorists (whether Hindus, Muslims or others did ) no religion approves the killingof the innocent even in revenge . A Muslim father whose daughter was raped by a Gujarati Hindu man, can not in revenge rape the daughter of a Gujarati Hindu because his daughter is innocent.. This is against Islamic law and religious practices of ALL MAJOR RELIGIONS. It is true that hundreds of mosques and other Muslim shrines were damaged or destroyed and makeshift Hindu temples were installed in their place in some cases. In Ahmadabad, the dargah of the Sufi saint-poet Wali Gujarati in Shahibaug and the 16th century Gumte Masjid (mosque) in Isanpur were destroyed. The Muhafiz Khan Masjid at Gheekanta was ransacked. Police records list 298 dargahs, 205 mosques, 17 temples and three churches as damaged in the months of March and April, 2002.
According to Human Right Watch estimate, 2,500 Muslims were killed in anti-Muslim riots in Gujarat in 2002. Some 1,223 Muslims were reported missing, 3,548 injured, 1,919 women widowed and 2,606 children orphaned.
An international fact finding committee formed by experts from U.S., U.K., France, Germany and Sri Lanka reported that “sexual violence was being used as a strategy for terrorizing women belonging to minority communities in the state.
If anyone says that November 26, 2008, Mumbai attack may be a reaction of killing of innocent people by Indian security forces, still Muslims based on strict Islamic principles can not accept this terrorist attacks killing innocent people.
May God Almighty bring peace to India and make the people of India co-exist peacefully.
MODI ATTACKED MUMBAI- HAPPY MOHAMMAD KALEEMULLAH
Modi the chief minister of Gujrath organized the Mumbai attack!!!!!!!!!!!! MUHAMMAD KALEEMULLAH Sab, I hope you are happy now. Poor Muslims were taken inside TAJ by NSG and shot!!! OK Happy!!! Bechara Muslims are the receiving end of HINDU TERRORISM every where in India. MUHAMMAD KALEEMULLA Sab, why don't you migrate to the most peaceful country in the world- PAKISTAN. After all it was the PROMISED LAND of Indian Muslims who feared prosecution at the hands of Hindu Majority. You will have perpetual peace there. Will PAKIS accept you??? The Indian Muslims and PAKIS must learn a lesson from their biggest enemies- the JEWS. The Promised Land of Israel is open to accept immigration of anybody who prove that they are of JEWISH origin. Then why is the PAKIS not accepting you??? Why is the Arab Muslim countries does not grant Indian MUSLIMS citizenship rights when even USA and UK gives you citizenship rights?? It is because INDIAN MUSLIMS, which include the PAKIS and Bangladeshis are the "CHAMARS" of Islam. Arabs Muslims are the "BRAHMINS" of Islam. So Arab Muslims do not want Untouchable "CHAMAR MUSLIMS" settling in in Arab country. So Muhammad sab, GET OUT IF YOU DO NOT LIKE INDIA. BUT THE SAD PART IS THAT NO ISLAMIC COUNTRY IS WILLING TO ACCEPT YOU!!!
Religion is nothing to do with nations.
For your information Mr Anonymous. At the highest level of religious
thinking, Islam is the only religion that does not recognize political
borders drawn by man for his selfish and jingoistic reasons.
There is unity of humanity, unity of the world and all are equal
in the sight of God. Should Islam be fully implemented in this world, the
political borders will automatically disappear. Crude nationalism
and cultural nationalism as religiously held by RSS and Savarkar,
according to Islam is a kind of Shirik that is associating
something with the Almighty God.
Based on this both Saudi
nationalism and the more horrible, dirty,racist Zionist nationalism,
both are wrong, blame the countries for this mess , do not blame Islam,
Islam is pure, simple, logical and full of social justice.
The Quran says, God Has created the humanity into tribes,
clans, and nations so that people can recognize each other,
but in the sight of God, those who are closest to God are
those who are righteous. If any Muslim Saudi or who does
not follow this, then he is violating the laws of Islam,
blame them, do not blame the beautiful teachings of Islam.
Passports and borders are man's creations. India allows Napalese
Hindus to come into India without visas, but expect Malaysian Hindus
to obtain visas paying about Rs 1200 per visa. Can we blame the Indian
Govt. for this restrictions on Hindus? Is it right or wrong
is a political question not divine. Do not mix up divinity
with dirty politics.
Promised land is a totally wrong Zionist concept. there is
nothing like this in Islam. It is your own imagination to
score extra point in a futile argument.
Ethnically Indian Muslims were Hindus and had been living
there much earlier than your forefathers. A change in
ideology does not mean that thay lose the right to the
land where they were born and brought up. You will not
ask communist Hindus to migrate to China or Russia or
Albania or Cuba. 99.9% of Indian Muslims love their country and
are loyal to India. There had been more Hindus who had
been caught spying for Pakistan and other foreign countries
( about 38 cases in the past 40 years) out of this
36 cases involve Hindus and only two involve Mulsims.
Simply because people are Hindus do not mean that
100% they are clean, honest and totally loyal to India.
There are good and bad people in all religions.
Hindus and Mulsims can live peacefully, if cummunalism and hatred
as people like you show, is totally killed.
Religion is nothing to do with nations.
If religion has nothing to do with nation then why Pakistan was created? Let look at your main issues -
Islam as a peaceful religion:
Does Islam respect the rights of other religions? Let look at the history of Islam, even at the roots of initial rise of Islam during Mohammad time. Show me the peaceful and bloodless Islamic movement? Who were the indigenous Pagans during his time? What Mohammad did to them? How Islam was spread from Saudi soil to east? How peaceful his crusade was?
Islam as a unified religion:
Why Sunni does not accept Shea? and Why Sunni and Shea do not accept other Muslims like Ahmedia, Vohras, Suffi etc sub-sects of Islam?
Secular Islam:
How many Hindu and Buddhist temples were demolished by the Islam crusaders? Does Koran forbid such actions? Show me a single major Muslims organization ever came forward and accepted these facts as a shameful history and actions by their past religious leaders and rulers?
I am not advocating fanaticism or revenge by Hindu. You know Hinduism is not a religion. It is an open ended philosophy. Even cast system is open ended and subject to change. May be majority Hindu do not know their own heritage or Vedic Philosophy but at least I know that Hindu do not do forced religious conversion because the spirituality and religion are two different issues. I am living in western country and I do not see a cast system here but I see a class system. Islam has its own class system too. Indian Dalits are treated unfairly by majority Hindus but Indians accepts that falits and are correcting the mistakes. If Indian Dalits want to becomes Muslim, just to be an equal then they should talk to Ahmedia and other sub-Islam Muslims of Karachi and Islamabad and see how they are treated by the majority.
Islam and Democracy:
Show me a true democratic Islam nation in the world. May be the Islam laws in Koran are against the open secular democracy or mullahs do not see their interest in it.
Minorities and their rights in Pakistan and India:
Let check the recent history. What was the Hindu population in Pakistan before the Partition and what is now? On other side look at the Muslim population in India?
I know majority of current Indian Muslims' parents asked or supported the partition before 1947. But even after that, majority Hindus forgive them and accepted their rights to stay in India. May be you consider that as a Hindu's weakness and stupidity for not behaving like Pakistan Muslims!
By the way, according to the Muslim standard, Mohammad-Ali Zina was not a Muslim. He was not welcomed to attend Muslim prayers after he walked in with his shoes in Lahore mosque!
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