Muslim leaders unanimous in criticizing Justice Katju’s comments

abutahir,

You say "HEAVEN IS TO WE FAITHFUL MUSLIMS ONLY". But your ALLAH did not help the "AHL AL BYAT", so why do you expect any help from him??? Remember what happened at KARBALA!!!!!

INCIDENT AT KARBALA
1--The water supply was cut off by the Yazid MUSLIM army to the Hussains(as) camp. Children were crying for water, the women were desperate for water.

2--Yazid MUSLIM army set fire to the Imam's tents which were occupied mostly by frightened females and children.

3--Ali Akbar, Husain's (as)son lead the fight and died. His sister and other women in the camp were horrified and shocked at the scene.

4--Abbas and five other brothers of Imam Husain (as)went to fight and died
Next the sons of Imam Al-Hasan (as)and their cousins (about 17 of them), all in their teens went out and died.

5--By the afternoon 70 brave persons had died . All had fought under severe thirst, dehydration, exhaustion, and agonizing feeling for the family of the Prophet (pbuh) . Imam Husain (as) heard his baby crying because of the thirst and he held the six months old youngest son (Ali Asghar) in his arms, and appealed to the YAZID MUSLIM fighters for some water. But the baby was shot with an arrow killing him instantly. Imam Husain (as)filled his palm with the blood of the baby, and threw it upwards toward the sky, complaining to Allah (swt),
"O' Allah, O' my Lord! My consolation is the fact that Thou in Thine Majesty are witnessing what I am going through."

6-- Imam Hussain (as) went to fight and was killed. His head was cut off to be carried on the tip of a spear to Yazid

7-- The Muslim horsemen to trample upon the supine bodies of Imam Husain(as) and all others killed, to disfigure them even further.
For three days the exposed bodies were left lying in the desert of Karbala.

8--The Muslim army took the women and children of "ahal al byat" as prisoners in shackles, and proceeded to Kufa. At the forefront of the procession were the heads of Imam Husain (a.s.) on the tip of spears. This was the leftover of the beloved family of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), all caused by Muslims!

See para 5. If the cry of anguish of Imam Hussian(as), grand son of ALLAHs AZEEZ and LAST PROPHET after seeing his own six moth old son die in his own hand, was NOT heard by ALLAH how do you, a mortal, expect any help from ALLAH. The Ladies of MUHAMMADS house hold would have "cried out to ALLAH beating their chest" when one by one each male member of the family was killed by YAZID MUSLIMS but ALLAH did not do anything for them!!! So all MUSLIMS are doomed in this life and in the next life as MUHAMMAD intercede with ALLAH to put all YAZID MUSLIMS, who took ladies of his house as slaves and killed all male members, in "boiling oil" and deep fry you!!!!. Wasn't Muhammad visiting ALLAH mounted on BARAQ??? So fear the wrath of ALLAH and MUHAMMAD you YAZID MUSLIMS and convert to Hinduism to save from the "hell fire" which Muhammad and ALLAH has made for all you in th hell.

In a TRULY secular country, there should be one civil rule for all. And that civil rule should be based not on religion but on the spirit of humanity, ethics, and modern science. If anyone tries to force any so called principle drafted in medieval times they should be put behind bars. Such people prevent the country's growth and a hindrance to MODERN INDIA. Anybody who tries to say 'this is the last word' or 'final truth' is DOGMATIC. The INDIAN nation should suppress such people by locking them up in jails forever. INDIA should create its own GUANTANAMO type of jails where such people can be kept away from society forever.

KAFIR JUDGE ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, MOSTLY SARKARI KUTTAs THOSE COMMITTED TO KEEP MANKIND AWAY FROM ISLAM, SHOULD NEVER BE CALLED 'HONOURABLE'. SUCH JUDGES ARE NEVER WORTH THE WORD 'HONOURABLE'. THEY ARE THE WORST TWRISTERS, PIYAKKADDS, HARAMKHORS, LIARS, SUPPRESSORS OF TRUTH, MOREOVER DESPITE UNDERSTANDING THE TRUTH THEY ARE COMMITTED TO FALSIFICATION OF TRUTH, COMMITTED ENEMIES OF ISLAM, HELL IS TO THEM.

DESPITE SO MANY CASES OF BEARD AND BURQA ACROSS INDIA, OF POLICEMEN, OF SOLDIERS, OF STUDENTS, THE GOVT. HAS NEVER BOTHERED TO INITIATED ANY STEP TO BUILD AND RESTORE CONFIDENCE OF MUSLIMS. THE MATTER CAME UP FOR FEW WEEKS AND DISAPPEARED WITH THE CONTINUAL SUFFERING OF THE CONCERNED PERSONS. THEY HAVE ALWAYS FACED UNTOLD TARUMA OF THE UNKIND UNJUST SITUATION WHERE THEY HAD TO KILL THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL LEGITIMATE WISHES OR HAD TO LOOSE THEIR JOBS. SHAME TO FAKE DEMOCRACY OF INDIA.

DEMOCRACY IS HYPOCRACY. IN INDIA DEMOCRACY IS FAKE WHERE BACKDOOR HINDUISATION IS CONSTANTLY TAKING PLACE ALL ACROSS THE ADMINISTRATION AND GOVT. ESTABLISHMENTS UNDER GOVT. EXPENSES WITH REGULAR PUJA OF BOGUS BHAGWANS IN GOVT. OFFICES, WITH PUJA OF FALSE GODS IN ALL INUAGURAL CEREMONIES, AT SAMADHIS MURDA WORSHIPS, LEADER-IDOL INSTALLATIONS FOR THEIR GREATNESS INSIDE PARLIAMENT AND AT CROSSROADS IN EVERY TOWN CITIES AND THEIR WORSHIPS, HELL IS TO THEM ONLY.

TALIBANISATION IS THE ANSWER TO HINDUISATION. SEE THE PALESTINIANS, BOSNIANS, CHECHENS, IRAQIS, AFGHANS, AFRICAN MUJAHIDEENS, MAY ALLAH HELP THEM. EITHER THEY ARE NEGATED TO LIVE OR FORCED TO SHUN ISLAM OR FORIEGN RULE IS IMPOSED UPON THEM. START JIHAD TO DEFEND YOURSELVES FROM UGLLY VICIOUS DESIGNS OF KAFIRS. LEARN TO LIVE AND SURVIVE TILL THE MOMENT MUSLIMS HONOURABLY TAKE THE SEAT OF POWER TO EASTABLISH THE REAL DEMOCRACY THAT IS ISLAM.

Dear Miss Pratibha,

Could you tell me the meaning of secularism.According today's scenario in the india is praising muslims and being anti Hindu is secularism for vote bank Mr. Sri Ravi Shanker and Sri Ramdev is the religious face. So you can't compare these face to general people.

what nonsence are u not a hindu
wake up miss or else u will be killed by some talibani

A very interesting thing(study) indeed.

May god give you peace and love which u real miss in your life.
let me begin with this good wish. As u r influenced by anger and helplessness feeling, the outcome of this is frustration and depression, jelous and blood boiling. meanwhile, the one who suffer as minority, they are ready to accept the reality but not ready to lose their dignity by giving up their faith. is that makes you hating them or showing some sympathy to a dying man. search for peace in your mind and heart, if there is a single drop of love, it can grow to cover whole citizens even non living creatures.

try loving others.

Fitting reply with data to fascists. By Mr.Azeem Taqi.
To this data from the scary facts about Islam by Peter Hammond is copyright violation, how come it was allowed on this forum. Well if this is the case then one of my friends Mr. Azeem Taqi has replied to Peter Hammond. Hope these reply will give neutralization to the false propaganda of CIA.
SCARY FACTS About ISLAM -Dr. Peter Hammond.
Peter Hammond
Here's how it works.
As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part being regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:
United States -- Muslim 0.6%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1.8%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%
Azeem Reply
The Muslim population in the above countries is taken ad verbatim from the CIA Fact Book so you know exactly who is behind this propaganda. Incidentally, over 90% of the slaves brought from Africa to America were Muslims and forcibly converted to Christianity. Any comments on that? - Besides tearing them away from their families, treating them as sub humans, they were also forced to abandon their faith on pain of hunger. Could we blame Christianity for this? While on this, you had blatant apartheid in South Africa till the last decade and it exists even today under the surface in South Africa and the US - read the Ku Klux Klan and their ilk, you also have the abhorrent caste system in India. Neither apartheid nor the caste system has any place in Islam. Shall we blame Christians and Hindus for it?
Peter Hammond
At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:
> Denmark -- Muslim 2%
> Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
> United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
> Spain -- Muslim 4%
> Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%
Azeem Reply
Have Christians not was proselytizing disaffected groups in India, Korea, Taiwan, China, etc. This brings us back to the point that fundamentalists of every faith and not just Islam want to convert others. Even an extremely eminent personality like Mother Teresa said, in her last days that she was unhappy and not being able to harvest more souls for Christ. If this is not proselytism, what is? Incidentally, from the above countries, Spain was 95% Muslim at one time and now at 4%, so it is the Catholics who have proselytized Muslims.
Peter Hammond
From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:
France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%
Azeem Reply:
The author conveniently missed out that France as a colonial power ruled the North African Muslim countries of Algeria, Tunisia, and Morocco and a vast majority of the 8% Muslims in France (quoted above) are descendants of slaves brought to work for their white master back in the day. Philippines were Buddhist till a few centuries back. The author points out that 5% have become Muslim but conveniently ignore the fact that 85% are Christians. Coming to Sweden, the Muslims there are of Russian descent that were kicked out of St. Petersburg and adjoining areas, ditto for Switzerland, and the Netherlands. The people of Trinidad and Tobago are of African (Muslim) descent that were brought as slaves and forcibly converted.
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
Like I reiterated twice before, conversion of the whole world is the aim of all fundamentalists and not of simple folk following whatever faith they want to. Is the neo con Pax Americana charter not explicit about their aim - One mankind under Jesus?
Peter Hammond
When Muslims approach 10% of the population; they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:
Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 15%
Azeem Reply
I never have, done not and shall never justify lawlessness and violence, no matter what. Coming to the issue of the above countries, there is no problem in Guyana whatsoever. In India, Hindus too have come under the scanner for the Malegaon blasts, the burning of the Samjhauta Express etc, and recently there were Hindu and Christian riots in Karnataka, and Orissa. The terrorist activities of ULFA, which had nothing to do with Islam and Muslims. You have genocide in Rwanda, barbaric killings between the LTTE and the Sri Lankan army, the only two times atomic bombs have been used by the US against the hapless Japanese, tribal warfare in Africa, the deportation of millions by Stalin (incidentally here Muslims in their millions were forcibly sent to the cold deserts of Siberia from the plains of Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, and Tajikistan), you have Hitler seeking to annihilate all the Jews, you had Jews being crucified on stakes because it is alleged Jews crucified Jesus centuries back - where Sir, where does Islam come into all this?
Peter Hammond
After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:
Peter Hammond claim:
Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%
Azeem Reply
where is the problem in Ethiopia?
Peter Hammond claim:
At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:
Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%
Azeem Reply
In Bosnia, it was rather the Muslims who were slaughtered by the Eastern Orthodox Christians of Serbia and not the other way round.
Chad has no problems at all. Lebanon is fighting against the illegal occupation of its land by Israel and this has nothing to do with religion.
Incidentally, both the Prime Minister and the Army Chief of Lebanon are Christians though it is a Muslim majority country by your own admission. Could you please give a reverse example? Incidentally, the Vice President under Saddam of Iraq, Tariq Aziz, was also a Christian.
Peter Hammond claim
From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:
Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%
Azeem Reply
Come on, give me a break. At least the author should have verified figures and facts before varnishing it with lies.
Albania was a Communist state under the Soviet sphere and every religion - Islam, Christianity, and Judaism was banned.
Malaysia is done quite fine, thank you. Minor skirmishes do occur but show me one country where they do not.
Qatar is a haven of peace and prosperity and in fact is one of the few Muslim countries to have diplomatic relations with Israel.
Sudan is divided into the Muslim North (70%) and the Christian South (30%) and they live happily in their own enclaves. In fact, the only issue on faith that ever arose was when John Gerung of the Southern Christian Liberation Army (SCLA) tried to capture portions of the North and he was beaten back. If Darfur is the issue, then both sides to the dispute are Muslims so the argument put forth by this biased writer falls flat and dies a natural death. Incidentally, the Darfur problem was first highlighted in 1986 as a human rights issue but none was concerned. The sudden spurt of T shirts sporting www.savedarfur.org area consequence of oil being discovered there and the greedy.....wanting to loot it under the guise of the UN Peace program.
Peter Hammond claim
After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:
Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
> Jordan -- Muslim 92%
> Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
> Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%
Azeem reply
Bangla Desh - The minority population was 13% in 1947, 15% in 1971 and is 17% today so where is the ethnic cleansing?
Egypt - Has been traditionally 90% Muslim with a 10% Coptic Christian minority, so?
Gaza- Was three times bigger than it is - the Jews of Israel have taken their lands, so it is the Gazans who have been ethnically cleansed.
Indonesia - is traditionally Muslim, it was Buddhist till the 3rd century when the Hindus overran it, and then Muslim traders introduced Islam there is the 16th century. Incidentally, Aceh with a Christian population ceded from Indonesia - point to note.
Iran - Has been Muslim from over a thousand years. Besides, it has the biggest Jewish population after Israel and the US and they are well off and even represented politically. Besides, a lot of Zoroastrian activities are actively incorporated in Persian Islam besides Tehran boasting of one of the oldest 'Gurdwaras' in the wordl which Guru Nanak Saheb Ji himself visited.
Iraq - The Shia- Sunni - Kurdish problems are internal to Islam.
Jordan: - Probably the biggest ally of the West in that part of the world. The King's mother is American.
Morocco - Quiet place.
Pakistan - Agreed it is bad but who has propped the corrupt and the fundamentalists to this position of power?
Palestine - Poor chaps have lost their country. At least don't insult them.
Syria: - Totally leftist. The only fundamentalism there is from Iraqi refugees. No two guesses as to who created the Iraqi mess.
Tajikistan - Is the author only listing names of Muslim countries for no rhyme or reason? Tajikistan is a quiet, mountainous place where the US is trying to get a toe hold to offset Russian influence.
Turkey - Acknowledged as a secular, Westernized, country. It is a part of the NATO alliance, en route to becoming a part of the EU,

United Arab Emirates: - Modern, secular, quiet. In fact, if the total population including expatriates is taken up, Muslims share second place with Hindus and the Christians in first place.
Peter Hammond claim
100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:
Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 100%
Azeem reply
Afghanistan is a mess because of super power rivalry. Incidentally, 'Ariana', their national airline had a head start over all regional airlines including Air India and, in fact, the great J R D Tata had sent the first batch of Air India pilots to train there.
Saudi Arabia - Agreed, heart and soul of fundamentalist Islam but...who is supporting the Kings there? Who approached them and joined hands with them to abandon the gold standard which is the root cause of the global economic meltdown today? Who supplies them with weaponry? Physician, heal thyself is apt here.
Somalia - The Un itself acknowledged that the Islamic Courts were doing fine but it was Bush and Cheney, allergic to the word Islam that overthrew them and....As regards the Purace problem we have today, it was French ships that went into their territorial waters and snatched their fish (read livelihood) so the hungry simple folk took to piracy...lesson ---you rob your bread....I come to take it...you say my religion is bad..This defies illogicality to its limits.
Yemen: - tribal society at peace with itself and the world in general.
Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.
'Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel. -- Leon Uris, 'The Haj'
Leon Uris is not God that his word should be taken as gospel truth. OK, Adam had two sons - Kane and Abel, and Kane killed Abel - now you'll say Kane was a Muslim. Christian belief says Jews caused the suffering and crucifixion of Christ - were they Muslims? Was Hitler a Muslim? What about the white supremacists, the profounder of apartheid, the adherents of the caste system. those who threw atom bombs, cultivated slavery, Stalin deported millions to Siberia, Mao killed millions in his cultural revolution, the Viet Cong atrocities, the genocide in Rwanda, the razing of entire countries and the destruction of their infrastructure - Iraq, Afghansitan, the sanctions on Cuba for basic human needs, the skinning alive from top to toe of an old Vietnamese women by an American general, gay marriages, proxy wars,.....I could go on and on....my point is fundamentalist Muslims are wrong and must be destroyed but.....so also should the committers of crimes under different heads.
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yes. brother muslims in afghanistan 90%, but no hindhu and sikhs killed by them in riots, in pakistan no no hindu temple was demolished, but pakistan govt,give funds for reconstruction of old temples your leader mr.Advani also went to pakistan and unveil a reconstructed temple.(that he told about jinnah)and no hindu killed by muslims pakistan, and no hindu women raped and burnt alive in roads....this is muslims democracy.

Seems like the above comments are from a communal person,anti-muslim.These are the real culprits,the true communal by birth type of people,as they supports these type of anti-India,anti-Muslim ideology.These type of people should be hanged to death or else they will divide the India on religious line.

Well I agree with your point that any school may have it's dress code and certain rules to be followed by its students, one who can follow those rules may study in that school and one who don't like to may simply opt another school. There is no point in making it an issue.

However it is not fair for Justice Katju to comment the way he did (if he had made those comments) "We don't want to have Talibans in the country. Tomorrow a girl student may come and say that she wants to wear a burqa, can we allow it,". Just growing beard or wearing a burqa which is the prime tredition of Muslims can not be equated to Talibanization. A person sitting in such a respective post should not have made such an irresponsible comment and it would surely heart any community. It is certainly a condemnable act and should be brought into the notice of his higher officials.