Sans secularism, India will be divided into 20 states: Ex-UP DGP

After reading the article, various comments and counter-comments; I can freely CONCLUDE, most readers FAILED TO UNDERSTAND the intent behind all these writings.

Do you consider me, and all those who wrote "for OR against" the "article OR my thought provoking comment", that I am "anti-India"???

Wrong, absolutely wrong !!!

Most of you, failed to understand the gist of the article and my "original comment", with a parodial version of Bengali-cum-Hindi epilogue.

I am not that anti-Hindu, or anti-India, or anti-national. But I am still "An Indian".

I wanted to see and gauge your response(s) - how you are able to read, comprehend, and respond !!!

Alas, most of you failed - and showed your true colours - Muslim, Hindu, Hindutwadi, etc; But none showed your true "Sans secularism" colour - you ignorant Bharatwaasion !!!

Do any of you, in your "wildest dreams" consider that 160, 140, 130, or by least conservative estimate 120 million Indian Muslims can be UPROOTED and MOVED to Pakistan, Bangladesh, or to any Muslim country, just because of their religious affiliation???

We were all born, grew-up in India, and lived here for generations. Muslims, as well as Hindus and Christians have respected, and will continue to respect the rule of the land. It is in our own benefit, AND religion teaches / preaches, first to RESPECT the RULE OF LAND - "Sans secularism".

Indian Constitution CANNOT be CHANGED to suit ANYONES' wishes, needs, or fancies. Remember this for the rest of your lives, and for generations to come; unless India is disintegrated - which is the last thing, I expect.

And you Hindus, don't ever think that Indian Muslims and other minorities, are anti-national, anti-Hindu, or for that matter anti-whatever !!!

Need of the hour is NATIONAL INTEGRATION - not DISINTEGRATION. And unless we all work together, this cannot be achieved.

Discard and disbelieve in politicians' LIES and mainstream media, and we ALL will WIN !!!

Good Luck !!! Jai Hind !!!

An Indian

The Indian's comment on the superb address of Mr. V.N.Rai appears as anticlimax!
For the first time in history a Hindu and ex-DGP has so boldly spoken about communal riots in India and enlisted the causative factors.
India has been a home of many races, religions, languages and cultures from time immemorial!Then, how this communal clashes erupted on its sacred soil?
Let me fill the blanks:
Learning a bitter experiencfom India's war of Independence in 1857, the Britsh Raj carved out a policy of "divide the two major communities and rule over India!"First, they dumped the MUslims and wooed the Hindus.Hindus took advantage of English educationand secured govt. posts. Benares Hindu University was established.Medieval History of India was rewritten to put Muslim rulers in poor light and Hindus to hate them!In the railway stations built by them , there were Hindu Refreshmenr Rooms and Muslim RRs.Then one brought and served passengers with "Hindu paani" and another with Muslim Paani!'This honeymooning lasted for seventy years! Then the nationalists' demands pushed them to a corner. TO salvage their position, they wooed muslims with communal G.Os. and reservations.Then came the Aligarh Muslim University .
Thus the rivalry between Hindus and Muslims was turned into enmity by the Hindu and Muslim organisations. Svarkar of Hindu Maha sabha used to sing :"Hindustan hai Hindu ka nahee kisike baap ka!" He, only, advocated the Two nation Theory" and Jinnah exploited it to his advantage.The uncontrollable "communal Clashes" only ushered the partition of the country.
The immigration of Hindus and Sikhs from East Bengal and the present day Pakistan and their woeful tales addedf uel to the fire of hatred among Hindus. They started talking that Muslims have not gonee to Pakistan and are affecting the rights of Hindus., This led to frequent post-independance riots.

Thats what you should call yourself. " A Pakistani". Your hatred for hindus is disgusting. Is it just you or all 'Indian' muslims are like you ?

It is a highly commendable deliberation by a top ranking retired IPS Officer ( V. N. Rai ) India is still shining and Hindus and Muslims co-exist peacefully only because of objective, secular minded and self-less intellectuals like Mr Rai. May God Almighty Give him better health and happiness to serve India for a longer period.

Pakistan and Iran may say Islam is their state religion and seem to practise policies of discrimination against other minorities. Sri Lanka Sinhala- centric policies have generated gross discrimination against its Tamil citizens. Numerous Muslim states such as Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia follow unjust policies towards minorities of all kinds that are affront to civilized values everywhere. India is seen as an example of a much more tolerant secular state.

But the same India deployed army to flush out Sikh insurgents from their Golden Temple and to flush out Muslim rebels from Charari Sharif. But the same Indian army could not or did not want to protect Babri Masjid from the jack hammers of the fanatical Hindu mobs in 1992 Was it because Narasimha Rao had a secular mask but inside a harsh communalist?

In 1947, when Kashmir ( Muslim populated but Hindu ruled) was annexed the predominantly Hindu army of Kashmir was absorbed in the national army, where as when Hyderabad( a majority Hindu populated but Muslim ruled) was annexed, the largely Muslim army was disbanded, rendering nearly 20,000 jobless.

The Indian army’s infantry regiments are still based on religion such as Sikh Regiment, Gorkha Regiment, Garhwal Regiment( caste based). This goes against the strict secular principles. Muslims are also discriminated in serving in the Indian armed forces. The percentage of Muslim representation is less than 2. Why?

A bearded Sikh may become Chief of the army staff (Gen. J. J. Singh) but a Muslim army guy may not sport beard- as he looks a jihadi. A Hanuman Temple greets visitors upon entering virtually every cantonement in India. Does it mean that non-Hindus do not belong there? Generals like B.C. Joshi and Shankar Roy Chowdhury are hard core Hindu zealots in secular Indian army.

No one denies the fact that India is a hundred times better than the Afghan tribal law, but still it is a long way to go to accept cultural pluralism of the west.

It is wrong on the part of our intellectuals to point out Afghanistan when deciding what is right and wrong in the case of Indian perception and decide the fate of indian Muslims based on the behaviour of Al-Qaeda. Two wrongs do not make a wrong right.

Thank you Mr. V.N. Rai for conveying your analysis, about the future of Indian Republic, if it continued it's WRONG PATH of COMMUNAL WRATH.

Show me one religion which existed, and is existing "on the face of this earth" from "Baba Adam" to SHASTRA-DHARM, to SANATHAN-DHARM, to HINDU-DHARM, to BUDH-DHARM, or from VEDAS and PURANAS, or whatever you may call it - which TEACH, PREACH, PRACTICE, OR JUSTIFIES:

a) burning HUMANS (don't forget train bogie at Godhra was burnt from inside)

b) killing HUMANS (women and children)

c) making HOMEOWNERS as HOMELESS REFUGEES

d) destroying / desecrating PLACES OF WORSHIP

e) creating DIVISIONS among INDIANS

f) sowing SEEDS OF HATRED

g) instigating VIOLENCE / HOOLIGANISM / GOONDAISM

h) imparting INJUSTICE

i) abusing MEDIA / POWER

Show me any of the above, being taught by any religious belief / faith - and I WILL SHOW YOU MANGO growing ON APPLE TREES.

Don't tell me that Islam / Muslims preach OR practice. If few Muslims do, you cannot mix a "pinch of salt" and turn the "whole pot of flour" into salt. No-Muslim justifies their actions.

Reading above article, in which a future vision of India is depicted, reminds me of a "parodial version" of our national anthem:

JANA GANA MANA ANDHEY NAAIKON KO LAAYA HAI, BHAJPA BHAAG-KAY JAATA

PUNJAAB, SINDHU, GUJARAATA, MARATHA - YEH SAB GAANTH (knot) SEY TOOTH JAATA

VINDHYA, HIMAACHALA, YAMUNA, GANGA - YEH SAB POLUTE HO JAATA

TOUBA TOUBA WO NAHI KARENGAY, LEKIN TOUBA TOUBA AAKHRI MEIN KARENGAY

GAAYEY JALA-DHI TARANGAA

JANA GANA MANA ANDHEY NAAIKON KO LAAYA HAI, BHAJPA BHAAG-KAY JAATA

JAYA HAI (Jayalalitha), JAYA HAI, MAAYA (money) HAI, JAYA JAYA JAYA, MAAYA (Mayawati) HAI.
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Jai Hind !!!

An Indian