Karnataka anti-beef law affects food and employment of millions

By Manzar Bilal, TwoCircles.net,

Bangalore: Ignoring the agitation from several Muslim, Dalit and other Minorities organizations and protest by opposition parties of the state, Karnataka government led by BJP passed the Karnataka Prevention of Slaughter and Preservation of Cattle Bill, 2010 which tramples upon the traditional food habits of people and reflects an attempt to impose Hindutva agenda in a democratic country.

The Bill, which effectively bans beef in Karnataka was passed March 19th when the bill got passage through voice-vote in the State Assembly despite all opposition parties including Congress and Janata Dal (S) strongly opposing it and shouted anti-government slogans in the house.

Karnataka had earlier an act called Karnataka Prevention of Cow Slaughter and Cattle Prevention Act. That act though prohibited cow slaughter but one could do that with the condition of getting certificate from the competent authority which allowed slaughter of cow that was over 12 year old or had permanent physical problem and useless for the owners. However, under that act people could eat and use the beef freely after obtaining it from legal places.

But this existing law was not enough for the Sangh Privar and the BJP and they brought a new law called Karnataka Prevention of Slaughter and Preservation of Cattle Bill, 2010. This law not only bans slaughter of cattle, purchase, sale and disposal of cattle for slaughter but also prohibits usage and possession of beef which means a complete ban on beef eating. In this new law the word cow has been deleted which indicates that there is no difference between cow and ox in this regard and the same punishment is applicable for both. This means one can not sell his cow which is no longer gives milk or ox which is past its prime age.

Surprisingly, as per the act if seller or buyer is busy in deal and suspected by government officers that the cattle shall be slaughtered they will be deemed as committing crime. It gives unwanted power to the officers.

Anyone is found guilty of violating the new act is punishable with imprisonment for minimum one year and maximum seven years or fine with Rs 25,000 to Rs 1 lakh or both.

Popular Front of India (PFI) which has been in front row of opposing the bill has strongly condemned this action of state BJP government and termed it anti-people and against spirit of democracy.

Talking to TwoCircles.net, Karnataka PFI president Mr. Ilyas Mohammad said: “We are opposing this bill because it snatches the right of food habits of a large number of people and anti-people as it will leave unemployed many Muslims who have been connected with the sale of beef and purchase and sale of cow and will badly affect those who have been involved in processing other things such as bones, hide etc. and also those who have been earning livelihood through fabricating and repairing products of leather.”

He also said instead of solving the problems faced by people in the state with such law government is creating more problem for the people.

Asked about others who opposing the bill he said: “We have been protesting against this Bill for long time and many organizations are with us. Last month we organized a state level protest rally in association with Karnataka Beef Merchants Association and Karnataka Komu Souharda Vedike and which was backed by Tipu United Front, Stephens Square Merchants Association, Social Democratic Party of India, Praja Vimochana Chaluvali, Karnataka Dalit Sangharsh Samiti and Samatha Sainik Dal. But unfortunately BJP government ignored people sentiment and got the Bill passed.”

“The clause 14 of the Bill opens the door for misuse of it as it says that if anyone is found abetting any offence punishable under the act or attempts to commit the same also will get punishment. But there is no explanation that what is exactly meant by abetment which is very dangerous and many innocents may be target under this clause.” He added.

Asked about the next step he said: “PFI is raising voice against the Bill and will try to unite the like-minded organizations and groups as well as secular parties to put pressure on state government to revoke the controversial Bill.”

It is notable here that beef is not only eaten by Muslims but also Dalits, Christians, Tribals and many others prefer it as cheap way of consuming protein.

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anti beef eating

I jst want to notify that against cow slaughter deoband the law making institution of muslims has given a fatwa. It has been termed as 'najayaz' and all the hindus who eat beef or give justifications abt been written in vedic scripts, u ppl arent hindus, give pork to any muslim, any....u will feel ashamed f urself...blinded by the false assumption of being the thoughtfull and progressive.... Rott in hell.

They have successfully

They have successfully banning the slaughter of cow, that means, we should stop milking the milk from cow. Milk is the cow's blood. We need the sense, they can protect cows only in Karnataka not any where else, we should not use belt or shoes or chappals made of cow skin. Let us protect our cowism. Cowards they act like this.

Rig Vedic Bramhins are Beef Eaters.

Hinduism a.k.a Sanatan Dharm is the mother of all religions and the Rig Vedic Bramhins before the creation of Christian and Islamic philosophy sacrificed Bulls and Cows and distributed it for consumption to the society while retaining the best cuts for their own dietary needs. So this present day movements to ban cow slaughter is pure "BullShit"

BJP IS NOT AGAINST THE MUSLIMS BUT HEART OF HINDUISMS

MS YEDURRAPP IWILL ASK U ONE QUESTION, WHY U NOT ALLOW KILL THE COW, IT HAS ONLY BLOOD,LIFE, WHY NOT BAN MUTTON, CHICKEN, CHRITISIAN ALSO HAVE BELIEF ON GOAT WHICH IS GROWN BY JESUS IN BIBLE ... SO CHRISTIAN PEOPLE FILE THE CASE AGAINST THE GOAT SLAUGHTER....

BEEF ONLY HIGH PROTEIN AND FAT GOOD AS COMPARE TO ANY FOOD.
SO U WANT KARANATAKA BECOME A HINDUISM STATE FOR BJP ONLY

GOV HAVE RIGHTS TO STOP LOOSING HUMAN LIFE ONLY NOT COW LIFE.... IF U WANT STOP COW SLAUGHTER MEANS PLESE MAKE A LAW FOR ALL ANIMALS ...

AND U ALSO BECOZ UR POLITIC DUCK HAHA HA HA HA

comment,

Beef is not good for health, google it, you will get 100 reasons why it is not good, get outta india if you dont want to follow indian traditions..

Who the hell is any one to

Who the hell is any one to say , who should eat what???

Evil fellow are trying trying for mass conversion of the country to Hindutva... Remember India is democratic country which doesn't align itself to any religion....

BAN COW SLAUGHTER

Cow slaughter is allowed/encouraged in the Hindu Scriptures, and we all know it. However love for the Mother Cow is now over-flowing in the Political Domain, thanks to RSS and Hindu Maha Sabha (VHP/Jagaran Manch/Bajrangi criminals/ Mafia ). So what should be done ?

Cut the head off, to get rid of the headache.

Ban cow-slaughter thru-out India. YES. GO ahead.

There are 23 Crore cows in India. Every single Hindu house-hold should be given 1 (one) cow., so that every single Hindu household takes care of Mommy First., before they take care of their wives and kids.

There must be a Cow-Care Commissioner., to ensure that the cow is well-fed. Any son/daughter ignoring Mommy Cow., must be fined Rs. 50,000/-. and 6 months in Jail.

This will strengthen the Hindu Belief of cow as a Mother., and it is the duty of every hindu son and daughter to feed the mother before feeding himself / his family.

So let's begin with the task NOW. GO ahead. I am all for the ban. India must be pure vegetarian. No cow.. no goat.. no buffalo.. and even no chicken.. and no eggs. Once we become a 100% vegetarian nation, see how we shine and excel in Math & Sciences.

We will eat Daal and Roti., and our kids will score 100/100 in Math & Physics.

Jai Ho.

If u r not eating then keep

If u r not eating then keep it to urself... Its good...
Don't tell others wat to do...
Ignort idiots ..... Spread hatred amoung people

Only weak, sick and discarded animals are slaughtered, avoid it

Why muslims are give preference to Beef. If you happen to visit butcher house and see these animals. You will not feel like eating beef again.

All sick,useless, skeletons are slaughtered and sold as beef. Muslim must be used to buying animals during Baqrid time. That time you get lamb,khassi etc of proper quality but u try visiting same market some other time. You will be shocked to see kind of animal available there.

Muslim shud avoid these sick animals at any cost. Beef eating habit, only helping those who keep cows and sold them when there is no use of it. All sorts of injection during its lifetime to increase productivity will be very harmful for health.

Hallmark of Muslim locality, full of meat/beefshop and medicine shops.

As marked gesture to country fellow men, Muslim shud avoid beef.

The Center should act

The Center should act against such baseless bans.

They are completely illogical since they contradict the hindu scriptures or texts and also create problems for the poor and the underprevileged.

A large number of the lower middle class people from various communities, find beef or pork to be a cheaper alternative than the costly option of lamb or mutton.

Not to mention the business of beef or pork helps in earning of a vast amount of money.
Such bans would not only affect the income scale but also facilitate illegal trades, apparently, which the govt. might find a more lucrative option of earning illegal money.

If at all the bans are sanctioned then the prices of mutton or lamb should be lowered considerably.

Mr Indian, I really

Mr Indian,

I really appreciate your knowledge, Personally i am not very fond of beef.

But i feel we don't have any right to tell others what to eat and what not to eat.

If some think eating chicken is good the same way others think eating beef is good for them. As a child we eat whatever our mother gives to us we don't disguise it.

Coming to BJP and other politics. The only way to stop them is don't vote for them.
And stop others also voting for them by spreading truth about them. We all lack the information. The article from Mr. Dwijendra Narain Jha was very informative.
Our country was more like blind country because of lack of information. Where they just believed the stories and tried to adjust for those stories.

Be realistic. Dont hurt others. I am proud to be Indian.

I live in the gulf where the

I live in the gulf where the majority religion is Muslim. This is a country where there are other expatriates as well. Many of them hail from Europe and America, where pork is considered a daily staple food. However, pork is banned in this country because it hurts the religious sentiments of the majority. The European expatriates have grown old in this land and consider it their home. However they understand the sensitivity of the matter and abstain from demanding or consuming pork. Does this mean they are spineless? On the contrary it means they are emphatic people with sensitivities. How would a Muslim like it if we flaunted pork near their places of worship....it would hurt them and there would be riots. So dear friends from the minority..it is not enough to be sensitive to your own feelings...A truly civilized human is one who is sensitive to the feelings of self and others. The day you realize this basic fact of life..MY COUNTRY will be a better place to live in and on that day we shall say it is OUR COUNTRY!!! till then.....

stupid guy, Do you really

stupid guy,
Do you really understand the problem we are trying to address. The problem here is BJP trying to tell people what to eat and what not to. When you are already having beef and pork as you staple diet (that means.. what is brinjal and beans for you is beef and pork for me, just in case you did not get the analogy right!). So why are you hurting their staple food supply. What is the connection about Europeans settled in Muslim countries and getting used to it. If the country in which you live now currently says all men have to be circumcised (that means the layer around your penis removed permanently), will you be the first in the line.
Have some sanity. Don't hurt others sentiments about food. And for heavens sake keep your patriotism for your country in the deepest possible place in your wardrobe and bring it out only when it is absolutely needed (like in the mumbai blast case).
What basic facts about life are you talking about here
Are the minorities throwing cooked beef and pork on the hindus. Please understand, Hinduism is the most intolerant religion and has bred the most ruthless people on planet earth. I am also a hindu. I have traveled enough to know what people from different regions look and do. so don't blow your horn. Ask a hindu brahmin to live in the US and he will beat his trumpets about India and start hating people eating beef. But he is willing to earn in dollars.

India is Democratic whereas Gulf Countries are not

India is a democratic country and is proud of the country's diversity. I think, it may not be a good idea to compare Gulf countries and India as far as personal freedom is concerned. India is not : 1) Ruled by a kingdom 2) a country based on religion.

Mr. Anonymous Sir - you live and I lived

Mr. Anonymous Sir @ 6 June 2010 - 12:00am.

You are correct about pork-ban in M.E. countries for GENERAL PUBLIC. BUT you are UNAWARE of ALCOHOL PERMIT(s), and PORK PERMIT(s) for foreigners - especially Europeans and non-Muslims.

While living in Gulf, earning in phoren "tax-free" currency, escaping from MASSIVE UNEMPLOYMENT, CORRUPTION, INJUSTICE, FASCISM back-home, and speaking against Gulf (your bread provider) - and IGNORANTLY trying to SPREAD half-baked TRUTH, half-baked LIES is just "UNSUITABLE".

If you are UNAWARE, or you are an IGNORANT - I'm sure you know DIPLOMATIC CARGO and DIPLOMATIC MAIL is allowed to enter ANY COUNTRY, including Gulf countries - without CHECKING and "custom-free". And you know, which items CAN and CANNOT be brought into any country, by-passing law-of-land, unrestricted, and unquestioned.

Instead of attempting to FEEBLY JUSTIFY WRONG(s), committed by hardcore HINDUTVA - try to be LOGICAL and WRITE TRUTH. Thank you.

An Observer.

P.S.:
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Mr. IGNORANT "Anonymous" - you tend to forget a BASIC FACT / DIFFERENCE in your comparison betwen Gulf Countries with India.

- India is a democratic republic - where BEEF-CONSUMING was practiced for thousands of years, including by Brahmins and others living in India prior to Indian independence.

- Phoreigners (Europeans) entered Gulf country(s) solely for employment, and signed an employment contract with full knowledge of those country's customs, practices, environment, etc. etc. etc. and agreeing to abide by those terms.

- If Anjali is required to wear Burqa while in public, as a sign of modesty covering her body - is that wrong ?

- Shall I continue with more reasons AND differences which you are SHAMELESSLY hiding ???

You are right sir.I respect

You are right sir.I respect your thoughts.As muslims we respect the sentiments of hindus if they say their religion is "against" beef eating,but I found this-

Manusmriti (Chapter 5 / Verse 30) says, "It is NOT SINFUL to EAT MEAT of eatable animals, for BRAHMA has created BOTH: "eaters and the eatables."

Manusmriti (5 / 35) states: When a man who is properly engaged in a ritual DOES NOT EAT MEAT, after his DEATH, he will become a SACRIFICIAL ANIMAL during twenty-one rebirths.

Apastamb Grihsutram (1/3/10) says, "The COW should be SLAUGHTERED on the arrival of a guest, on the occasion of ‘Shraddha’ of ancestors and on the occasion of a marriage."

Rigveda (10/85/13) declares, "On the occasion of a GIRL'S MARRIAGE, oxen and cows are slaughtered."

Rigveda (6/17/1) states that "Indra used to EAT MEAT of cow, calf, horse and buffalo."

Vashistha Dharmasutra (11/34) writes, "If a BRAHMIN REFUSES to eat the meat offered to him on the occasion of ‘Shraddha’ or worship, he goes to hell."

This confirms the accusations that vegetarian was adopted into hinduism only to tame the rising influence og Buddhism,jainism,enev though scriptures don't prohibit,rather at places encourage beef-eating.
FYI,I hate beef eating,But have seen countless,i repeat COUNTLESS brahmins who consume here in INDIA.

Shahid Saab, Hinduism is different from ISLAM

All the scriptures you mentioned may have "BEEF EATING" included. But unlike ISLAM, HINDUISM is an evolving religion and Hindus for 1000-2000 years stopped eating BEEF. So respecting the majority communities sentiments wouldn't make Muslims less ISLAMIC. Eat BEEF by all means but public slaughter can be stopped.

The problem why MUSLIMS fail to understand HINDUISM is because MUSLIMS have to strictly adhere to QUR'AN to be a MUSLIM while Hindus have no such compulsion. MUSLIM insist that QUR'AN is unchangeable when "passages which justify violence by misguided ISLAMIST" - against non-Muslims and sects of ISLAM- are pointed out but they fly to HAJJ when it is stated in QUR'AN that HAJJ has to be performed on "foot or on Camel". How can a PLANE be equated with CAMEL???? So all HAJJ thus performed have not been accepted by ALLAH and such Muslims will burn in HELL FIRE.

So what makes you a great

So what makes you a great hindu, if all muslims have to go to hell. your BJP leader should be shot first

Why is Prerak Choudhary silent - after a comment ?

I wonder, what happened to Prerak Choudhary, after his short PERSONAL ATTACK comment of May 8th 2010.

Such "Barsaat key Meindak" (Rainy season frogs) chatter for a while, and remain behind screen, although "such commentators" feel PRESSING URGE to stop TRUTH being SPREAD. They do such MISCHIEF, so they can conveniently and easily MANIPULATE TRUTH, and disillusion INNOCENT followers / voters.

Does the MEANING of QUOTES from Manusmiriti, Rigveda, Vaishista Dharmasutra, Grihasutras CHANGE, if my name is: Dwijendra Narain Jha, Tulsiram Prajapati, or FAKE ENCOUNTERED Sohrabuddin Sheikh???

Please take time to read, do your own research, and prove these are TRUE or NOT - Prerak Choudhary:
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Manusmriti (Chapter 5 / Verse 30) says, "It is NOT SINFUL to EAT MEAT of eatable animals, for BRAHMA has created BOTH: "eaters and the eatables."

Manusmriti (Chapter 5 / Verse 35) states: When a man who is properly engaged in a ritual DOES NOT EAT MEAT, after his DEATH, he will become a SACRIFICIAL ANIMAL during twenty-one rebirths.

Apastamb Grihsutram (1/3/10) says, "The COW should be SLAUGHTERED on the arrival of a guest, on the occasion of ‘Shraddha’ of ancestors and on the occasion of a marriage."

Rigveda (6/17/1) states that "Indra used to EAT MEAT of cow, calf, horse and buffalo."

Rigveda (10/85/13) declares, "On the occasion of a GIRL'S MARRIAGE, oxen and cows are slaughtered."

Vashistha Dharmasutra (11/34) writes, "If a BRAHMIN REFUSES to eat the meat offered to him on the occasion of ‘Shraddha’ or worship, he goes to hell."
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Your silence amounts to ACCEPTANCE these are true. Please don't come back "parroting" INVERTED LOGIC, straying OR diverting from above quotes.

Here is another article about BEEF-EATING from a High Class Brahmin - Mr. Dwijendra Narain Jha, a professor of history in New Delhi. The article says a lot about hounding by Sangh Parivar Goons against a Brahmin's contention with respect to BEEF-EATING. Enjoy reading this article:

http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?213159

An Indian

Beef

Dearest Brothers & Sisters,

First of all I would like to say that do not have the time to reply to every post unless the person speaking is a real living person with an Identity. Especially , an Indian identity because I cant spot AN INDIAN amongst 110 crore others. So, I need the name to reply to.

Secondly, the Manusmriti is not a divine text. It is the law book. It was the law of the time it was written in and it could be ammended from time to time, something like the Indian Law. The parliament has the power to ammend it. The latest verses that you refer to are ammended verses.

Secondly, Brahmins eating beef doesnt make eating beef correct. Unlike a few others who ape everything the religious gurus do, the modern generation should use their brains. Otherwise, there will be no difference between myself and a terrorist who blindly apes what some maulvis/religious teachers tell him to.

Everyone is free to do what he wants. Especially, the class of educated people that I belong to, does not copy anything blindly.

I have nothing personal against anyone here. It is just that I shared my views openly and I expect people to post with identity.

Being barsaat mainducks, i wud say that Meinducks cant think beyond their wells. I have lots of more work to do. I was not interested i5n replying but a friend of mine told me that people are missing me here so I came out to reply.

If people want my reply, follow me on twitter @prerakchoudhary

I do not think I can keep in track with this post so please excuse me if I dont reply. If you want, come out with ur identity and contact me so that I can enlighten you.

Regards
Your dear friend,

Prerak Choudhary

Beef-eating / Herbivorous, Carnivorous, Omnivorous

Thank you Prerak Choudhary @ 23 June 2010 commenting under “Beef” heading.

You are writing that MANUSMRITI “is not” A DIVINE TEXT.

You also write it was the law of the time - and I believe it is NOT APPLICABLE to present time.

Then you continue writing that: Indian PARLIAMENT has POWER to AMEND Manusmriti.

I’m SIMPLY AMAZED @ your naivity OR stupidity!!! India is an INDEPENDENT REPUBLIC which guarantees FREEDOM of RELIGION / PRACTICE to its CITIZENS. Since when did Indian PARLIAMENT acquire right to AMEND or even comment on Manusmriti???

Then, again you continue to write: Yes, EVERYONE IS FREE TO DO WHAT HE WANTS. By this statement, you seem to be a learned and wise person, as you DO NOT copy anything blindly !!! Very Good.

I believe you read the article, under which these comments are made. The heading of article is: "Karnataka anti-beef law affects food and employment of millions".

Did you forgot to read the article? If that’s the case, then I won’t blame you for SELECTIVE READING or SELECTIVE AMNESIA or even your HATE-FILLED COMMENT, actively SEEKING for my identity.

Even after writing your “detailed” comment, YOU FAILED to REPLY – whether the quotes from Manusmriti, Apastambh Grihsutra, Rigveda, Vasistha Dharmasutra are CORRECT or WRONG?

Prerak Choudhary, you ALSO FAILED to post any comment w.r.t. web-linked article published in Outlook India Magazine about: “A Brahmin’s Cow Tales” reg. Dwijendra Narayan Jha – a noted historian, and professor of history @ New Delhi University. This article was published after detailed RESEARCH by this noted professor of Indian History.

I believe, you failed to read my comment about CARNIVOROUS, HERBIVOROUS, and OMNIVOROUS eating habits. Here it is if you failed to read:

http://www.twocircles.net/2010may01/tcn_cartoon_babri_justice.html

You can post your response on TCN website, whenever you have time – as it took almost SIX WEEKS to post your half-hearted RESPONSE. Instead of asking about my identity, please FEEL FREE to post your comment(s) on TCN. Thank you.

An Indian

Ban on cow slaughter

There is a section in our society who HATE non-Hindus just like there are people in any other community who HATE people who are not of their community. It goes deeper and some section of one community HATE other sections of the same community. This is not something new and therefore the "cold war" will take different shapes.

People create divisions for their own gains and some evil character (most likely a vegetarian) in the past created rifts by seeding the idea of eating cow being unholy. This is NOT supported by religious scriptures as we all know. That character is long dead and gone but the movement he started has today become a monster.

Here, a group of Hindus who HATE non-Hindus particularly Muslims and Christians want to show their might. They are already a very large number and they happen to be the biggest vote-bank for BJP. So, this is clearly vote-bank politics.

Secondly, experience has shown that whenever and wherever any ban or prohibition has been put into place, the act breeds illegal trade and that brings in moolah to the government. What better way one could think of than to hurt the very people one HATES by punishing them legally, denying them their needs and making money at the same time from those very people. This is nirvana much better than an orgasm for some.

Since this very large group of HATERS is growing by the minute, BJP is sure to gain rich dividends in the future and the country is headed towards destruction by their pseudo-nationalism.

Being Indian will get re-defined as being a BJP wallah and then Hindutva will mean anti-muslimwa, anti-christianwa, anti........

After physical-vote exhaust - a new voice-voting

After exhausting and ensuring they will not get required number of votes to pass the bill, Hindutva has stooped to "voice-vote" to pass a bill !!! Fantastic display i.e. mockery of constitution and votes in Karnataka State.

Excellent display of TAMASHA in Kal-Yug Bharat, exercised by BJP in Karnataka State Assembly.

It shows, the ELEPHANT has GONE MAD. And people of south, know "pretty well", what to do with a MAD ELEPHANT. I am afraid HOW TO DEAL with REMNANTS of a DEAD ELEPHANT.

An Indian

Cow slaughter and beef-eating in Hinduism

I wrote the very same quotes written below, under a different article BY CHALLENGING anyone to DISPUTE or PROVE this is WRONG - including Shankaracharyas, Maharshis, "so-called" modern-day Sadhus, Sandhvis, VHP, BJP, BD, RSS, SS or WHOEVER learned person of Hindu Religious Scriptures.

I am reproducing what I wrote earlier, quoting from relevant verses of Manusmiriti, Rigveda, Upanishads, Grihsutras, Vashistha Dharmasutra.

Here are the quotes:
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Manusmriti (Chapter 5 / Verse 30) says, "It is NOT SINFUL to EAT MEAT of eatable animals, for BRAHMA has created BOTH: "eaters and the eatables."

Manusmriti (5 / 35) states: When a man who is properly engaged in a ritual DOES NOT EAT MEAT, after his DEATH, he will become a SACRIFICIAL ANIMAL during twenty-one rebirths.

Apastamb Grihsutram (1/3/10) says, "The COW should be SLAUGHTERED on the arrival of a guest, on the occasion of ‘Shraddha’ of ancestors and on the occasion of a marriage."

Rigveda (10/85/13) declares, "On the occasion of a GIRL'S MARRIAGE, oxen and cows are slaughtered."

Rigveda (6/17/1) states that "Indra used to EAT MEAT of cow, calf, horse and buffalo."

Vashistha Dharmasutra (11/34) writes, "If a BRAHMIN REFUSES to eat the meat offered to him on the occasion of ‘Shraddha’ or worship, he goes to hell."
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Now let the PFI and the poor affected by the ILLEGAL BAN in KARNATAKA take up the issue with BJP government, and challenge their ruling / illegal ban.

An Indian

If you are so correct and

If you are so correct and confident, why do you post anonymously. Have the courage to come forward and I shall convince you.

No educated and forward looking person writes crap as you have done and that too without an Identity.

AN INDIAN, no!! You seem to be a millitant or a terrorist!

It's NOT about courage OR identity, it's about LIES and BIAS

Prerak Choudhary, my posting above IS NOT about "courage" OR "identity". You and your ilks are showing IDENTITY and COURAGE at Kaar Seva, Rath Yathra, Riots, Hooliganism, and Terror Attacks to BLAME / FRAME innocents, ABUSING Media and ABUSING Religious Sentiments.

Whether those acts are LEGAL or ILLEGAL, JUSTIFIED or UNJUSTIFIED, HOLY or UNHOLY - is a TOTALLY different matter.

The posting above is about BEEF-EATING habits of Brahmins and earlier Rajas and Maharajas. This is well-WRITTEN in AUTHENTIC HISTORICAL / MYTHOLOGICAL / RELIGIOUS Scriptures. I am not saying it - the religious scriptures are saying - and you are WRONGLY TRYING to HIDE by FALSELY imposing COW-SLAUGHTER-BAN in India, under POLITICS of HATRED.

If YOU have COURAGE - you have RIGHT to DISPROVE, instead of making a personal attack. Here is another article published in Outlook Magazine, dated September 17th 2001:

http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?213159

Don't you think a High-Class Brahmin - History Professor who published about BEEF EATING Habits of Brahmin Rajas and Maharajas is CORRECT???

For what purpose do you think Rajas and Maharajas went into jungles hunting animals??? Just for killing four-leg animals and distributing meat??? Have you any LOGICAL answer ???

Don't ask for my identity Prerak Choudhary - instead, TRY to PROVE the ABOVE-MENTIONED article, and Quotes from Religious Scripture are WRONG!!! Thank you.

An Indian

No relation between identity and quote from Religious Texts

I am sorry "Prerak Chaudgary" my posting with quotes from Religious Texts HAS NO LINK to my identity. I have nothing to clarify, as I am a simple, law-abiding Indian Citizen.

If you able to prove, the quotes are wrong OR unauthentic, please go ahead and prove. I'm sure TCN web-site will have no objection to accept your posting, if it is CORRECT and AUTHENTIC.

Here is another article about BEEF-EATING from a High Class Brahmin - Mr. Dwijendra Narain Jha, a professor of history in New Delhi. The article says a lot about hounding by Sangh Parivar Goons against a Brahmin's contention with respect to BEEF-EATING. Enjoy reading this article:

http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?213159

Instead of making a personal attack against my "credentials", please take time to prove the above is wrong. Thank you.

An Indian

Brahmanical scriptures promote meat eating

Mr.Anon yours was a good work. Fantastic. I would like to tell you that we should avoid usage of words such as HINDU, HINDUISM, HINDUTVA since they are being used as a smoke screen to cover up the ugly face of Brahmanical religion.The word Hindu is originated from Persian Language and represents a region connected to Sindhu river.So the Hindu religion is a big FALSEHOOD.Brahmins brilliantly and conveniently use these words to bring together all other castes and Pagan tribes to show that they are majority in India.Let us start debate on this BIG FALSEHOOD. Thank you.

its all BJP AND SANGH PARIVAR PLAN AGAINST MINORITIES IN INDIA

ITS ALL PREPLANED BY GOVERNMENT AND SANG PARIVAR AND GOVERNMENT IS UNDER PRESURE OF SANG PARIVAR THATS ALL, NOW KARNATAKA GOVERNMENT FOLLOW SAME STRATEGY OF GUJARATH BE CAREFUL ALL MUSLIMS AND MINORITIES, PREPARE URSELF AGAINST THIS EVILS.

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