Positive stereotyping
Submitted by admin on 25 May 2010 - 8:41am
By Kashif-ul-Huda, TwoCircles.net,
Stereotyping is an oversimplified image or representation. One image is meant to represent all members of that group or community. It helps in identification but offers no individuality or scope for diversity that exists within that group. When you see news stories about Muslims on TV it is often accompanied by images of burqa clad women and men with cap and beard. In both cases visuals are selected carefully that suggests to the viewers that Muslim women have no personality of their own and men are extremists.
However, stereotyping can also be a positive experience, a Muslim man with beard and cap and lovingly embracing his daughter can be a moving experience. A Muslim family eating together can reinforce the family values that Islam lays so much emphasis on. With the easy availability of digital cameras, these are the images that Muslims have to create themselves.
The Hindustan Times, New Delhi, May 24rd, 2010
Another positive use of stereotype is to show that Muslims also exist in India’s unity in diversity. It can be a way to recognize their contribution to the society and register their presence. State Bank of India’s latest advertisement on their mobile banking service “State Bank freedom” shows seven customers using their mobile phones to do banking. One of the images is of a Muslim man in cap and beard. From the image it appears that he is a shopkeeper. Given that self-employment is the largest employment for Indian Muslims this image is not far off from the reality. The man is smiling while looking at his mobile phone, may be because he is happy at his strong financial position.
While it is true that most Muslim may not look like the man in SBI ad but it is also true that that image conveys to Muslims that this bank care about them and want their business. In this market where customers have many choices stereotypical images can send positive message but companies and advertising agencies need to be careful that they do not end up making a caricature of the community.
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MUSLIMS DIFFERENT FROM OTHER NON HINDUS IN INDIA
How Muslims are different from other minorities in India?
Minorities like Jains, Buddhists and Sikhs are very tolerant.Though Jainism,Buddhism and Sikhism challenged and reformed certain aspects of Hinduism yet they never used violence to persuade Hindus to accept their faiths.Moreover their faiths are modified offshoots of Hinduism itself.These faiths were born in Bharat and have fully assimilated with diverse Indian cultures.Names of Jains, Buddhists and Sikhs have SANSKRIT OR PRAKRIT DERIVATIVES SO THEY ARE VERY MUCH BHARATIYA AS HINDUS ARE.The Jews,Parsis and Bahai's came from outside India as traders, refugees and contributed alot for India.They never had any hostility towards the Hindus nor did they convert or subjugate Hindus. Christians came from outside and barring Portuguese Inquisition most Christians never threatened or persecuted Hindus.Christianity was spread by Missionaries sometimes by Honesty and sometimes by deceit. Overall Christians didn't use sword to spread Christianity. Moreover Jesus is highly respected by Hindus.But the same is not the case with Muslims. Most Muslim rulers implemented a bloody policy of terror to subjugate and convert Hindus. Hindu resistance was often met with cruel suppression. Muslims came as INVADERS AND LOOTED TONS OF GOLD FROM MANDIRS.Muslims demolished over 60000 Mandirs, enslaved millions of Hindus,blinded hundreds and thousands in prisons, raped and abducted thousands of Hindu girls and converted them to Islam. Often Hindus had to choose between conversion, expulsion or death.HINDUS WERE TREATED AS KAFIRS AND WERE DENIED FREEDOM IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY.Hindu resistance was mostly met with mass killings and starvation.Moreover almost all Muslim rulers excepting Akbar resorted to these evil tactics to subjugate Hinduism and Hindus for over 1000 years.No other minority did any such things to Hindus. Excepting Muslims no minority demanded for a separate state which consequently led to expulsion of 10 million Hindus.Excepting Muslims no other minority follows special religious laws in India.Except Muslims no other minority is considered a National Threat and anti Nationals. The NO 1 enemy of India and Hindus is Pakistan which is created by Muslims and supported by "Indian" Muslims. Support of Indian Muslims is often seen during cricket matches,14 th August etc. Muslims are a majority in one state that is J&k.J&K has the highest crime rates, most volatile and has all Hindus expelled from Kashmir valley.Come on Muslims can you deny all this?
If you want to defeat RSS, take to Math & Science
Indian Muslims can defeat the evil designs of the world's largest terrorist organisation : The RSS - with its institutionalised riot systems (sleeper cells network thru India down to the Ward level) intact.
How ? Thru a silent revolution in the field of education. Thru mastering Math & Science. The revolution without noise. Ground realities must change. I want to see Muslim names in the Top 10., in medical, engg, bits, nda, upsc and so on.
Your strength and progress brick by brick, means the death-knell for RSS. Slowly but surely.
'Stereotyping' - main issue of the debate
The original comment by Kashif Sahab is quite innocuous. The main issue was, whether positive stereotyping should be treated as 'ok'? If stereotyping is basically flawed how can it be 'positive'? It is like teaching a child ‘L for Lion’ and then showing her the picture of a lion. Later in life the child will always relate to any identical picture with the first one she was shown. If I am shown a photo of a bearded man along with the word ‘Muslim’, in later life, when I see a photo of a man without beard, and yet told that “ he is a Muslim” I will be tempted to say: “He does not look like a Muslim!” How many of Muslims would accept this? But, by my comment, am I not forcing them to spot a beard and “look like a Muslim”? My question is: What a Muslim should look like? How and why stereotypes emrge? The item on agenda for the debate was ‘stereotyping’ and not ‘Muslim’.
Unfortunately, we are discussing the ‘Muslim’! And the debate has exposed something within us that should never surface in a human society. Internet and social networking sites, instead of bringing people together to debate issues, also give us an opportunity to remain faceless, nameless and vomit poison on each other. By and large we remain confined to our homes on PCs and laptops, find liberty to express even some psychopathic thoughts. Suffering from megalomania a gentleman purportedly a Hindu draws up an entire plan of action as if he has been voted as the sole representative of the entire Hindu community. Clearly, the frustration has adopted anti-Muslims language but essentially, the target of the frustration could be the vast majority of Hindus who certainly and categorically do not subscribe to such views. Also. there are comments by some purportedly Muslims criticising Hindus, Brahmins, Arayans... ignorance of historical processes is too glaring and yet there is an obvious desire to ‘set things right’ as defenders of the Muslim community by just one blog - it is farcical, if not pitiable.
Look within, for a change, friends, Hindus and Muslims! When are we going to stop playing in shallow waters of history near ‘our’communalised shores? When are we going to start living in the present?
Understanding the mentality of Indian muslims
Whenever Indian muslims are in a minority they talk about secularism and equal rights. Whenever and wherever they become a a majority, they start killing hindus. Kashmir for example.
Indian Muslims Need Reniassance
There are some adverse comments about me/my entries., but they are minor; and i dont feel the need to reply to them. Issues are important, and men are mortals and dust.
INDIAN MUSLIMS : I dont wish them bad. Islam is for the whole world and belongs to humanity. The Prophet is a light for ALL humanity, not just for muslims. That is a fact and i believe it. But Muslims world-wide must ensure that they build SOCIETIES to show-case to the world, that followers of THIS ideology can also have SUCCESSFUL societies. If they become vassals, it reflects on the ideology itself. Hence i have always felt that muslims need self-reliance from a to z. they have to go thru the cycle of total destruction and rising from the ashes / revival.
INDIAN MUSLIMS : are uniquely positioned and can lead the muslims world-wide. How ? Thru EDUCATION. A poor Indian Muslim boy is better positioned than a rich goodlooking fat SAUDI Millionaire's son !! How ? Thru mastering Mathematics and Science. Indian Muslims MUST Take to secular education (math + science.. core subjects i.e.) like an addiction ! There is no time for theolgoical hair-splitting sessions. That can wait.
Education.. Education and Education.. That is the mantra for Indian Muslims. Education is a part of IMAAN (Faith). Muslims gave up their role as scholars / innovators., and hence the decline started in their societies (with the fall of Baghdad in the 7th Century). Ever since there has been sporadic bursts of energy., but no concerted effort. There have been individual success stories (Shahrukh Khan, Sania Mirza, Azim Premji.. hohoho.. and all Indian Muslims are super rich., as the RSS would want us to believe)... but Muslims have to build "societies".. nations. There are 53 muslim countries. They should merge., and there should be 5 or 6 major ones. That is one.
Most importantly, they should take to SECULAR Education (Math and Science) on war footing. Either thru English (which is the language of science today)., or if they are talented enough., they could teach in both English and also their mother tongue, simultaneously., as we do in India. Our Professors teach Medical & Engineering in English., with a few comments in Tamil or Telugu or Marathi or Gujarati thrown in... while explaining the concept.
If Muslims dont take to education., its the end for them. One by one., they fall. They get enslaved. They become slaves of a smart conquering nation. History has no favourites. History favours the brave. Muslims have all that is needed to be powerful., but their resources are going down the gutter.
Muslims have lost ALL MORAL
Muslims have lost ALL MORAL RIGHT TO STAY IN INDIA AFTER PARTITION. Hindus and Sikhs lost 60% of Punjab to Muslims, 5 million Hindus lost Eastern Bengal to Muslims. Sindhi Hindus lost Sindh completely. Almost all Hindus expelled from Kashmir valley after 1989. Yet "SHAMELESSLY" in the name of 'SECULARISM' these MUSLIMS who are "unwanted WEEDS AND PESTS" of India continue to stay in India and ask for reservation, privileges,subsidies, special relgious laws etc. One day will come when Muslims will outnumber Hindus in India and then Hindus will consequently be expelled from India. But remember Muslims ( you unwanted pests) we Hindus will strongly resist you and if necessary we will wipe you out not just from India but from the entire Indian subcontinent.If necessary we will create the same terrible condition for you as Hitler created for European Jews. We will resort to GENOCIDAL ACTIVITIES,MASS RECONVERISON, MASS MURDER,MASS EXPULSION, MASS RAPING AND EVEN MASS STARVATION.We will never forgive you for your "crimes against Hindus" for the past 1000 years.PAY BACK TIME IS COMING AHEAD.Don't think these threats are "just threats". Pakistan and Bangladesh (two LOST parts of BHARAT) will be reunited. Then we will implement a bloody policy of TERROR AGAINST MUSLIMS WHO WILL REFUSE TO ACCEPT HINDUISM.
On Staying in India After Partition
Partition created a Hindu majority country and a Muslim majority country. Millions of Hindus migrated from Pakistan to India and millions of Muslims migrated from India to Pakistan. That was 63 years ago. Today there are 3 million Hindus in Pakistan and 12 million Hindus in Bangladesh.
The vast majority of today's Indian Muslims were born after partition. India's Muslims are full citizens of India like any other citizens. They owe full allegiance to India and they have as much right to dissent and protest and to exert their rights as anyone else. Hatemongers who question the rights of Muslims are anti-national because they weaken India by trying to alienate India's largest minority. That's why the RSS/BJP parivar should rightly be called 'pseudo-nationalist' because they create divisions and hatreds among Indians.
Whenever Hindus in Pakistan or Bangladesh are ill-treated, it is the duty of India's Muslims to speak up in their defense.
Couldn't agree with you more
Yes, it is fully agreed "India's Muslims are full citizens of India like any other citizens". All Indians are proud of Azim Premji, Azuruddhin, Khans of Bollywood and Cricket etc. The comment is directed at the small "minority" of Muslims who are unhappy in India and feel discriminated by HINDUS and such MUSLIMS must leave India as Pakistan was created for such Muslims.
India has a large section of its population below poverty line and many Muslims are also poor. But remember, even if 100% Indian MUSLIMS are poor it would be a maximum of 16-18 Crore poor Indians while if 20% HINDUS are poor it would be also 16-18 Crore poor Indians. DO NOT COMMUNALAISE POVERTY.
It is precisely because "vast majority of today's Indian Muslims were born after partition" that the present day INDIAN MUSLIMS should re-exercise their option to migrate to Pakistan as most of them are in INDIA "NOT" because of their choice but because of the CHOICE MADE BY THEIR PARENTS. Those "present day Indian Muslims" who are unhappy in INDIA and do "NOT" agree with the decision made by their parents in 1947-55 should get out of India.
Arun - A Good example of Brahmanical terrorism
Reply to Mr.Arun; How will you react if you are called a Brahmanical terrorist as you show all traits of a terrorist/Fascist/Rascist? We Muslims welcome any move to unite all broken parts of erstwhile Mughal Empire democratically.Good Idea.FYI Majority of Indian Muslims(WEEDS AND PESTS)are converted Dalits(native Indians),who never wanted to go out from their motherland at any point of history.The idea of Partition had emanated from the narrowminded Brahmin leaders(V.D.Savarkar,Golalwker,Hegdewar,D.D Upadhyaya, J.Nehru,V.Pattel etc).Secularist westernised M.Jinnah was made scapegoat by the Brahmana/Baniya group and British crusaders.Please read Mr. Jaswant Singh's recently published book(Jinnah and Partition).So the invaded Arya Brahmins are supposed to go out.
Ironically, the contributions of WEEDS and PESTS are countless.Even now India is identified by one of their contributions(TAJ MAHAL).I do not ask you to cite any one of your contributions to Indian society as a whole.Caste system, Sati, Devadasy system, Brahmana puja, Improper dress code for Dalit women, Untouchability, Usery etc are the contributions of Brahmanical/Hindutva religion.Isn't it?
I want you to define who Hindu is.Everybody knows that the word Hindu is a trick of crooked Brahmins.You do not think that Muslims can alway be frightened by RSS thugs. That days are gone Mr.Arun.I just want to borrow Modi's saying in the wake of Gujarat Genocide.To every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction henceforth.I challenge you to pluck even a single hair from any one of us.Only mad people will promote the rapist Hinduism,which is defined and explained in Bunch of Thought, a source of Brahmanical terrorism.
Lack of authentic information
Dear Arun,
I respect your views. However, you lack truth and knowledge both. I would suggest, you should try to build knowledge, based on authentic source & soon you will know the truth.
You are an emotional person and once you know the truth you will surely seek remorse for writing such a hatred filled mail against your own Indian friends.
Best wishes,
Does ANYONE knows who is "Kalki Avtar"?
Mr. Arun @ 27 June 2010 - 4:14pm.
Your comment is WELL-READ. And, I believe India has been a land of HUMANS for thousands of years, it will remain so. Indian "Humans" need to remain HUMANS ((before getting trapped in Hindutva LIES)) OR before BLINDLY embarking on all those ANIMAL-TYPE acts. I wrote earlier: JUNGLE-RAAJ in KALYUG-Samaaj, under Hindutva Prachaar.
Everyone needs to protect India, before it gets to that stage. Anyhow, do you know:
Who is "Kalki Avtar"???
Who is "Vishnu Bhagat" ???
Who is "Somanib" in Sanskrit Scriptures ???
Here is a posting about Pandit Vaid Prakash - a Sanskrit Scholar from Illahabad University, who published a research and presented to more than eight MOST-KNOWLEDGEABLE Hindu Pundits - who accepted, his findings / conclusion - WITHOUT COMMENT.
http://www.themodernreligion.com/prophet/prophet-hindu.html
If this research been done by Dr. Zakir Naik, or any other Muslim - POLLUTED-GANGA would have been FULL of Muslim BLOOD - similar to your (Arun's) HALLUCINATORY IMAGINATION in above comment.
Anyhow, please read above RESEARCH with PATIENCE, CALM, without AGITATING - with positive thinking. Thank you.
An Indian
P.S.:
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And remember, Pandit Vaid Prakash and the EIGHT Pandits who accepted "Kalki Avtar" is not like any of those IMPOSTER Sadhus, Sandhvis, Maharshis, and Swamis. (Pragya Singh, Dayanand Pandey, Nityananda, Late Rajneesh, etc. etc. etc.)
Here is another article published in Outlook India concerning BEEF-EATING, if you have not read:
http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?213159
Please enjoy reading, and try to "shed" your hatred and venom - SLOWLY and with DILIGENCE.
Arun is pathetic.
What have you written. Shame on you. There is a certain thing as sanctity of the word. You write utter crap based on total nonsense. You are not human.. You are not even sub-human. You are lesser than an animal. Shame on you. This is what RSS prachaar (hateful cyanide) inject does to a human being. It reduces him to sub-human levels.. or even turns him into a beast or worst.
Both ARE TWO SIDES of SAME COIN
Dronacharya @ June 27 2010 - 7.33pm. commenting Arun is pathetic.
Mr. Dronacharya and Mr. Arun are TWO SIDES of SAME FAKE COIN. If readers are unaware, here is an ABSURD / ILLOGICAL comment by Dronacharya - and my counter-comment to LIES, spread on this platform:
http://twocircles.net/2010jun23/saudi_women_agents_change_shattering_com...
Readers may please read it - and realize how HINDUTVA is ENGAGED in SPREADING / DISILLUSIONING readers with LIES after LIES. Liberal readers also need to understand that Hindutva is doing such practices for thousands of years, and they DID NOT HESITATE to eliminate TRUTH-SPEAKING Hindus - ATS Mumbai Chief Hemant Karkare, and his two colleagues are the latest victim of Mumbai 26/11.
Hindutva DID NOT hesitate to plant bombs in Margoa, Goa - coinciding with Deepavali Celebrations in 2009. Here are two web-links of articles published in local newspapers about Margoa, Goa
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/national/was-margao-blast-goas-brush-hind...
http://www.ndtv.com/news/india/hindu_group_behind_blast_goa_home_ministe...
It is Ooperwalaa, who EXPOSED Hindutva / Sangh Parivaars' ILL-INTENTIONS, and bombs EXPLOADED immaturely instantly killing Hindutvadi terrorists.
There are many sayings, which suit this situation:
a) Least does a HUMAN realize that GRAVE-DIGGERS, sometimes get-buried in the SAME GRAVE they dig for OTHERS.
b) People playing with FIRE, die from FIRE.
c) People playing with GUNS, die from GUN-SHOTS.
An Indian
One question to ALL
One question to ALL SO-CALLED "INDIAN" MUSLIM.
Why did you stay back in INDIA (HINDU RASHTRA) EVEN AFTER PARTITION?
Because Muslims did not come from another place
Because Muslims did not come from another place as like the brahmins. The original inhabitant reverted to Islam and we the Muslims need not go any where, the brahmins are packing their bags and moving to western countries and the illegal country Israel.
Sudha Ji - please read this also
Sudha Ji !
Please read this article also, about 17 Indian Non-Muslims who attacked and killed an overseas contract co-worker. This article also proves there are many many Indian Non-Muslims working in Gulf Countries, and remitting HEFTY Phoren Exchange.
http://www.twocircles.net/2010apr07/indian_ulema_ready_intervene_17_indi...
Please CLEANSE your NEGATIVE STEREOTYPING of Muslims in India in particular, and Muslims in general across the world.
Thank you, good luck - and keep visiting / writing on TCN.
An Indian
Here is SAMPLE proof of Sudha Ji's concern !!!
Sudha Ji - Namaskaar, Pranaam, Sasriyakaal, Shuprobhat, Keim-cho, Adaab !!!
Thank you for your comment and for showing concern(s). I am sure, other readers will be giving their views CLARIFYING your concern(s). Here is a latest storey about Non-Muslims, settled and working in Middle East.
http://twocircles.net/2010may22/mangalore_crash_tragedy_revisits_chandig...
I know another Punjabi family - whose doctor husband (a non-Muslim - ofcourse) died in an unfortunate mid-air-crash of Saudi Airlines Passenger Aircraft, while on take-off from New Delhi Airport. Should you need, I can provide an AUTHENTIC PROOF of my statement.
It was the famous Saudi/Air Kazakhstan MID-AIR-CRASH of November 12th 1996 in which 349 people perished, including a Punjabi Indian Doctor - who was employed in Saudi Arabia with Ministry of Health Hospital in Khamis Mushayt / Abha. An UNFORGETTABLE mistake he did was, INSTEAD of PURCHASING a WORLDWIDE Personal Accident Policy, he wantedly OR by mistake purchased a Saudi Arabian Territory ONLY "Personal Accident" policy. For this simple mistake, his family COULD NOT take benefit from a PERSONAL ACCIDENT policy.
Kindly (please, please, please) remove your NEGATIVE STEREOTYPE mentality and BIAS about Indian Muslims. Thank you for your understanding.
An Indian
Official demographics of Bangladesh and Pakistan
Sudha Ji - Namaskaar !
Kindly GOOGLE and find out for yourself, but for SPOON-FEEDING - here are the official statistics:
Bangladesh:
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9.2% Hindus living as of date. These are officially recognized statistics. You know UNOFFICIAL figures are FAAAAAAR greater in numbers, and they are living happily, without PRESSURE, SUBJUGATION, or MACHOISM from MAJORITY COMMUNITY.
Pakistan:
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Official statistics shows: 3.2 Million Hindus, and
2.8 Million Christians - living as of date. They are happy. Any untoward incident will is strictly dealt by Government UNLIKE in India where there are SHAM RIOTS, incessant killing of innocents, desecration of religious places of worship belonging to minorities, including those of Christians.
Our "lilliput" Varun Gandhi publicly gave "hate-speech" and got elected as MP on Sangh Parivaar ticket. This is the STATUS of DEMOCRACY in India. If you want to join politics and become famous, just HATE minority, give HATE SPEECHES in public you get either a "political" recognition - or could easily become an Imposter Sandhvi.
Sudha Ji - please FEEL FREE to verify YOURSELVES, before SPILLING obnoxious / HATE-FILLED / BIASED COMMENT. Thank you.
An Observer
Jhoota Prachaar OF Sangh Parivaar !!!
It depends how a person perceives at others. I have seen a major part of Indians working, and earning in Gulf Countries, are NON-MUSLIMS.
I have seen a MAJOR percentage of NON-MUSLIM Indians DOING SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS in Gulf Countries, are NON-MUSLIM Indians.
Richest person in India - Anil Ambani's late father Dhirubhai Ambani worked in Aden, Yemen. Earned there in SILVER COINS - invested in India and became richest person. If you have any doubt(s), just google and verify.
But, I still see ALOT of negative comments coming from Indian Non-Muslims, especially complaining about other countries.
Is it because of NEGATIVE PREACHING / PERCEPTIONS:
Jhoota Prachaar of Sangh Parivaar ???
An Indian
Does Muslims follow diversity, seculairsm?
Yes, Muslim exist in Indian diversity.
But does Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists exist in Islamic societies of Pak, Bangladesh?
Also in Kashmir?
When Muslims in minority, they take name of secularism, minority rights.
When in majority or close to it, it throws out everybody.
For your information, all
For your information, all the middle east countries are Muslim countries. Can you show any other place where people from all over the world, religions and races, who are not even the citizens there, live peacefully with all their rights respected and deriving the most material benefits, and nobody even making any claims made about that?
Sudha ji, Yes
Sudha ji,
Yes hindus,christians ,etc.do exist in Pakistan and Bangladesh.In pakistan,the minorities also get 5% reservation in all GOVT. jobs.In Bangladesh 11% of all govt.employees are non-muslims.Do muslims have reservation in INDIA?no.Even if they demand it,then we know the reaction of people like u.
Ofcourse minorities in these two countries face problems,but so do minorities in India.
And in Kashmir too they exist madam.And the culture of kashmir is of secularism.The circumstances in 1989 led to unjust expulsion of Pandits from there.Muslims,if they did it,committed crime.But then muslims are not solely resposible for that as u people have been brainwashed to believe. Blame goes to Jagmohan and GOI equally for creating fear psychosis among Pandits AND continuously rigging elections RESPECTIVELY.A part of blame shld be put on some section of Pandit community,as they were supporting the deployment of Army in Kashmir to suppress Muslim protests against Riggings.
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