Abusaleh Shariff explodes the myth of Muslims doing better under Modi ruleAllah Hafiz vs. Khuda Hafiz
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By Almas Kiran Shamim,
I am a Muslim and I am an Indian. I was born and brought up in this country, speaking Urdu/Hindi and using terms like ‘Namaaz’* and ‘Roza’**. I have no desire to suddenly change my language because ‘some’ people find it inappropriate. I absolutely hate the de-Indianization of Indian Muslims, saying, for example, “Ramadan Kareem” instead of “Ramzaan Mubarak”, and “salaat” instead of “namaaz.”
Today, someone told me that ‘Khuda hafiz’*** is not the correct word to be used, and we should rather say ‘Allah hafiz’. The reason given was that “Parsis also use Khuda hafiz”. I have heard the same ridiculous notion earlier as well. I am very sure that a lot of people reading this also have similar views. In any case, I make it clear to anyone and everyone reading this post, that I, Almas, will not stop saying ‘Khuda hafiz’.
An auto in Delhi street with "Khuda Hafiz" written in Hindi.
Firstly, for the benefit of the readers, ‘Khuda’ is a word incorporated into Urdu from Persian (like many other Urdu words). If you do a thorough search, you will find that the word ‘Khuda’ has a very elaborate meaning – from ‘the powerful one’ to ‘the one to whom sacrifices are offered’. To keep it simple, we shall use the commonest meaning for which the term ‘Khuda’ is used, i.e., ‘God’.
When I say Khuda, I mean my God, my Creator, the One to whom I shall return. When I say Khuda, I mean my Allah. However, obviously, not everyone in the world speaks Urdu, and not everyone in the world calls Allah ‘Khuda.’ Just like not everyone in the world speaks English, not everyone in the world would call Allah ‘God’. However, I am not ‘everyone in the world’, and I do call my God ‘Khuda’. It doesn’t matter to me who uses this word for what other purposes. There are people who say that ‘Khuda’ should not be used because a lot of other people use this term for their God.
Urdu is a language, so is Persian, and anyone who speaks in this language can use ‘Khuda’ for his God. A Christian from Pakistan can use ‘Khuda’, a Zoroastrian from Iran can use ‘Khuda’. This, by no means, implies that a Muslim from either Pakistan or Iran cannot use ‘Khuda’.
When you say that ‘Khuda’ can also mean the Christian God or the Parsi God or even the Sikh or Hindu God, you are actually trying to say that there IS a Christian God, a Parsi God, a Sikh God, a Hindu God besides a Muslim God Allah.
Tell me, is this what you believe in?
Does this make you a Muslim?
Tell me, what is the most important thing to be a Muslim?
The belief in one God.
Allah.
La ilaha illallah.
There is no God but Allah.
So, when anyone says ‘God’, what should come to your mind?
Allah, because who is Allah but Allah?
There is one God who created us all, who provides for us all, whether we be Muslim or Hindu or Parsi or whatever. Then what exactly do you mean when you say that ‘so and so people also call their God ‘Khuda’?
Do you realize that a Christian Arab also uses the word ‘Allah’ but for him Allah is the father of Jesus. So, now, shouldn’t I stop using the term ‘Allah’ too? Do you realize that when Huzur (Salallaho alaihe wasallam) became a Prophet, Arabs belonging to the Jahiliya also worshipped Allah, only that they also worshipped Uzza, Lat, and Manat? So, doesn’t this also mean that I should stop using ‘Allah’?
A lot of Non-Muslims believe that Allah is some ‘other’ God, i.e, a God other than their own God. So, doesn’t ‘Allah’ too conjure images other than what we, as Muslims, know ‘Allah’ means? Now, if ‘Allah’ despite being used by other sects means Allah then I am sure ‘Khuda’ too can mean ‘Allah’ for me.
When a Christian says ‘Khuda hafiz’, he might be leaving you in the protection of God the Father. However, when I, or any other Muslim, say ‘Khuda hafiz’, we are leaving you in the protection of Al-Ilah – The God.
There are definitely reasons why you can tell me to use ‘Allah hafiz’ instead of ‘Khuda hafiz’. The best being that Allah calls Himself Allah in the Qur’an. Also, that saying the ‘word’ Allah itself brings blessings and that it binds the Ummati in a common thread. If you give me these reasons I will agree with you. However, if you give me the stupid reason that a Parsi also calls God ‘khuda’ than you are going to get a piece of my mind.
Besides, Allah created us all differently – there are Muslims with golden hair and blue eyes, Muslims with black skin and curly hair and Muslims with brown skin and black eyes. We eat different food, speak different languages and have different cultures. We are united in our belief and our belief doesn’t include us becoming Arabs. No, I don’t mean that ‘Allah’ is for Arabs alone. What I mean is that this sudden need among Indian Muslims to switch over from ‘namaaz’ to ‘salaah’ and the like, and also a sudden defilement of ‘Khuda hafiz’, have all arisen (I believe) from that same misconception that Muslim and Arab is synonymous.
It is NOT.
I live in Kerala (at present) and the Muslims here use the term ‘Niskkaram’ or ‘Namaskkaram’ for ‘Namaaz’ / ‘Salaah’. Yet, I don’t find huge forums on the Internet debating the usage of the term. Nor do I find Keralite Muslims with any sense of shame in their usage of a word that is well known to have Hindu origins (if I can call them that) to refer to the second pillar of Islam. Yet, ‘namaaz’, ‘roza’, and ‘khuda’ are so vehemently opposed. The only explanation that I can find for this absurd phenomenon is the huge population of Hindi/Urdu Muslims.
Keralite Muslims form a small population and their ‘terms’ are not so apparent to the larger Muslim world, nor are they a threat. Urdu/Hindi Muslims are a huge group of people and since we have become part of a global community the Urdu/ Hindi Muslim ‘terms’ have somehow stood as competitors to their ‘Arabic’ counterparts.
With an increasing Western Muslim population, due to an unprecedented rise in reversions, Arabic in its chaste form is being embraced as the sole language of Islam.
In such a scenario, naturally, the older Indian/Pakistani Muslims who use Urdu/Hindi in its various forms, present the single largest ‘alienation’. Thus, there is this need to extol the usage of ‘Arabic’ terms, or rather deprecate the usage of Urdu/Hindi terms that the larger Muslim World cannot understand.
I feel that this is ridiculous. Trust me, my God can understand all the languages he created. He really does. The need to de-Indianize us (Urdu/Hindi Muslims) stems from the belief that how can anything Muslim be non-Arab? It is very similar to the Urdu/Hindi Muslim belief that how can anything Muslim be non-Urdu/Hindi (within India)?
Since most Muslims in India know one or the other form of Urdu/Hindi, even if their mother tongue is something totally different (for example, Tamil), there is a common belief that all Indian Muslims speak Urdu. This is not true. I know Keralite Muslims who don’t know the ‘alif’ of Urdu and yet they are beautiful Muslims.
We need to realize that the pulse of the Ummati, the golden thread that binds us as Muslims, is our belief and not our language. We need to understand that ‘your God and my God and his God and her God and that God and this God and their God’ is for people who believe that there can possibly be more than one God.
What makes us Muslims is our proclamation: “There is One God.”
Now, whether I call him God, or ‘Rabb’ or ‘Khuda’ or ‘Bhagwaan’ or ‘Maalik’ or ‘Parwar dighaar’, is not of as much importance as that I call Him and Him alone.
There is only One who can possibly be God
Him – Al-Ilah – The God
Wahadahu la shareek
Allahu Akbar.
*Regular prayers that Muslims are supposed to do five times a day
**Fasting
*** A common term used by Indian Muslims to say 'farwell' .
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Almas is a medical student in Kerala and blogs at http://almasshamim.blogspot.com/
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As-salaamualaikum everybody.
As-salaamualaikum everybody. What matters most is the 'niyyat' (intention) after all, as all Muslims know. Niyyat is so much stressed in Islam as we know from the Quran and the Hadith. I know when I say God', I mean 'the God', that is, Allah. When I say Khuda, I mean Allah. So nothing actually wrong in my saying Khuda or God to myself. But because the word 'god' has been long used in a loose sense to mean 'one of the gods" (God so-and-so and goddess so-and-so by non-Muslims everywhere and, for instance, in pre-Islamic Arabia), the word 'god' itself seems to have lost its reverence. For Allah is 'the' God and not 'a' god. Even the word Khuda has come to mean Allah, as it is 'mostly' used by Muslims (in Iran, Pakistan, India and elsewhere). But 'god' is used by all and sundry to mean any number of specific divinities. In my heart I can say 'God' and mean Allah, because I am a Muslim. But for one who hears me, if he is a non-Muslim, the danger is he would think Allah is just 'a god' for me. But Allah is Allah for me, not 'a god'.
khuda Hafiz
The expansion / influence of Wahabism into Indo-Pak sub continent, and their hatred of Persian (wahabi's associate Persian with Shiaism) is at the root of these changes. We the muslims of sub- continent are so gullible that we are forgetting our own heritage; which has strong ties to Persian, turkish, and many other regional languages and wonderful traditions.
He who trims himself to suit other will soon whittle himself away.
Be proud of your language, traditions and heritage.
When we speak Urdu nothing
When we speak Urdu nothing wrong to tell Quda Hafiz/Khuda Hafiz instead of Allah Hafiz. Here Khuda means no other than Almighty ALLAH only. There is only one God ALLAH, and if we stress to use this word only then it means without saying we acknowledge there is muslim God beside other. And this leads to unforgivable sin Shirk creating partners to Almighty!
Being muslim we should try to
Being muslim we should try to practice the terms given in AlQuran by Allah subhan taala.Like
Allah in stead of Khuda,
Salah/Salat in stead of Namaaz
Siam (Ramadan)in stead of Roza
Jannat in stead of Behesto
Jahannam in stead of Dujokh
Malaik in stead of Feresta
Mosjid in stead of Mosque
This is nothing for any sort of hostility to anyone's mother tongue.As we know for pronouncing any alphabet from Al-Quran we get 10 no. of sowab/neki.
We must use all our native language terms for our day to day life.
I am a Bangladeshi bangali. I feel very shocked when I see most of our maolanas are giving emphasis to say gosto in stead of mangso or pani in stead of Jol. But why? Being a Bangali why should I say gosto (a Persi word) where my mother tongue is having a good term for it.
Being Muslim we may put emphasis on learning Arabic language as it is selected by Allah subhan taala for AlQuran, mother tongue of our Muhammad(sm), and as it will be the language of Akherat and Jannat.
@ the author of this article
Let us first understand the significance of the name 'Allah'. Why do Muslims call the creator `Allah' in Arabic which is a foreign language? Isn't it enough that everybody gives him the name in their mother tongue? Like the Keralites calling him `Daivam', `Ishwaran' etc. Allah is the name that denotes the power that has created and sustained everything in this universe. Other words from other languages like Daivom, Ishwaran, God, Khuda, can also be used to introduce the creator. However, the most suitable word to denote this power which is unique and which is neutral gender wise is `Allah'. This Arabic noun word has no plural or gender difference. So there is no equivalent translation in any language for the word Allah. It is untranslatable. Words like Daivam, God, Khuda in other languages are translations of the Arabic word `Ilah'; and not of Allah. The word god has the plural form `gods' and feminine gender `goddess' like `daivam' has the forms of `daivangal' and `devi'. It is the same with other languages also. The word `god' has no serious implications of the word `Allah'. The word Allah is beyond such usage, and it has no number or gender. So for representing the nature of the Creator, the most suitable word is `Allah'. A word was essential to introduce the creator to the whole humanity, and as the most suitable word for it was `Allah' it was finally decided through the last messenger of God. However, except for prayers and other fixed forms of worship, it is not necessary that one must use Allah, to introduce or to address the creator. One may use the names in native or other world languages.
The word Allah, according to several Arabic lexicons, means "the Being Who comprises all the attributes of perfection", i.e. the Being Who is perfect in every way (in His knowledge, power etc.), and possesses the best and the noblest qualities imaginable inthe highest degree. This meaning is supported by the Holy Quran when it says: "His are the best (or most beautiful) names." (17:110; 20:8; and 7:180) Contrary to popular belief, the word Allah is NOT a contraction of al-ilah ( al meaning 'the', and ilah meaning 'god'). Had it been so, then the expression ya Allah ('O Allah!') would have been ungrammatical,because according to the Arabic language when you address someone by the vocative form ya followed by a title, the al ('the') must be dropped from the title. For example, you cannot say ya ar-rabb but must say ya rabb (for 'O Lord'). So if the word Allah was al-ilah ('the God'), we would not be able to say: ya Allah, which we do. Lane's Arabic-English Lexicon (which is based on classical Arabic dictionaries), says under the word Allah, while citing many linguistical authorities: "Allah ... is a proper name applied to the Being Who exists necessarily, by Himself, comprising all the attributes of perfection, aproper name denoting the true god ... the al being inseparable from it, not derived..." Allah is thus a proper name, not derived from anything, and the Al is inseparable from it. The word al-ilah (the god) is a different word. The word Allah is unique among the names of God in all the languages of mankind, in that it was never applied to any being other than God. The pre-Islamic Arabs used it to refer to the Supreme Being, and never applied it to any of the other things they worshipped. Other names of God used by mankind, such as "lord", "god", "khuda", etc. have all also been used for beings otherthan God. They have meanings which refer to some particular attribute of God, but"Allah" is the name which refers to the Being Himself as His personal name. The Holy Quran itself refers to the uniqueness of the name Allah when it says: "Do you know anyone who can be named along with Him?" (19:65) Arabic is the only language, and Islam is the only religion, that has given the personal name of God (as distinct from attributive names such as lord, god, the most high, etc.)There are clear prophecies in previous scriptures (the Bible, the Vedas etc.) about the man who will come and give the name of God, which in previous religions was regarded as a secret. 1. David prophesied: "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord" (Psalms 118:26). This is also repeated in the Gospels (Matt. 21:9, etc.), and was fulfilled by the Holy Prophet Muhammad whose first revelation was "Read in the name of thy Lord" (the Quran, 96:1). 2. Zechariah prophesied: "And the Lord shall be king over all the earth, in that day there shall be one Lord, and his name one ." (Zech. 14:9) All Muslims, anywhere on the earth, speaking totally different languages, recognise the name "Allah", thus fulfilling this prophecy, "his name one". (All Christians, to take an example, do not recognise a single name of God, and therefore do not fulfil this prophecy.) 3. Isaiah prophesied: "And in that day shall you say, Praise the Lord, call upon His name ." (Isaiah 12:4) So Muslims say repeatedly exactly this: al-hamdu li-llah, and call upon His name Allah.
First of all I request all
First of all I request all the muslims to go through the comment I am citing below from an article in Wikipedia named 'Muslim Conquest of Persia'
Iranians, in fact, fought long and hard against the invading Arabs," thereby indicating Persian disdain for Arab culture and influence.[2] This view furthermore holds that, once politically conquered, the Persians began to resist the Arabs culturally and maintained Persian, as opposed to Arab, culture. Regardless, Islam was adopted by many, either for political or socio cultural reasons, and became the dominant religion.[3][4]
Due to such jealousy with the Arabs the Persians from the very beggining started to distort the Quranic terms.They started with Allah subhantaala to Khuda,Salah to Namaaz,Siam to Roza, Jannat to Behest, Jahannam to Dojokh.But why sould we people from Indian sub continent follow Persians in stead of Arabic (the languge of the book from the almighty, the language of akherah and the language of our prophet Muhammad(sm). I get highly shocked for Almas for her unconcerness that crying for persians who challenged ang knowingly left behind the culture of our prophet and the sahabis. We must say Allah, Salah,Siam.Jannat and Jahannam the Quranic terms.
NICE, good number of readers
NICE, good number of readers have taken interest on above topic, and what is worrysome is why not same keenless on other important and worthy issues. Secondly there are signs that the administration might put restrictions on sites for the heck of it. See how their own people have placed Dada Gangauli, Harbazan. Raahol Mahajen, Ramdeva and thousands of others, and we are just pulling legs of each others. Nobody is Farishta, accept the lesser bad and dont leave Mir Jafar type.
tasnim
Almas -- Thank you and keep it up.
I learned and also enjoyed going through your article.
Allah Taala or Khuda or Parvardigaar or Ishwar is closer to us than our Shah Rug ( Jugular Vein )- HE knows our intentions or Niyyat or Niyyah -
Being a Muslim If I say Khuda Hafiz to you - I do not mean you to be in the Amaan or Hifazat of Buddha or Inder Devta or Ahura Mazda or Jesus Christ.. I mean the ONE and ONLY creator and sustainer of the Worlds.
All the great Muslim thinkers and Poets of the sub continent who had used the word Khuda in their writings and poems did not hesitate to use the word Khuda - They could have used the word Allah - They know and everybody knows they mean the same Allah ( arabic ) as Persian Khuda. What you believe is important.
Almas -
Allama Iqbal said
Khudi ko kar buland itna, ke har takdeer se pehlay
Khuda bande se khud puche, bata teri raza Kya hai.
Apane mahabuub kii Khaatir thaa Khudaa ko ma.nzuur
varnaa quraan bhii utartaa ba-zabaan-e-urduu
[Akbar Allahabadi]
This controversy had started of late -- after the Petro Dollar started flowing into the Wahabi land of Saudi Arabia. Our kids went for work in the ME and started getting mixed up and believing that What the Arabs do is only way and to copy them and follow them in every respect is the only right way.
I will say Khuda Hafiz and will continue to say Khuda Hafiz - My Khuda knows what I mean by Khuda - If somebody does not like - who cares - I don't - They have every right not to response to my Khuda Hafiz in return.
We have become so petty, small and narrow minded and start believing it that Allah Subhan o Tala will not like if you call HIM by a name in another language.
Biggest SMS group
Salam,
I run a news SMS group named MUSLIMINDIA through google service. I send news concerning muslims in Urdu (Roman script). It is the biggest news SMS group. It has 20000 members across the country running regularly since 2008. Send following message from your mobile phone to join this free news group.
ON MUSLIMINDIA
and send to 9870807070. Dont forget to leave 1 space after ON.
(Molvi) Iqbal Bokda
Godhra
Mr.Iqbal Bokda you would do well to send your SMS in English
Salam,
Mr.Iqbal Bokda, it is quite intriguing that you chose this specific news for promoting your SMS campaign. You seem to be pretty very ambitious.
Nevertheless, I would like to give you a suggestion. Like... why can't you consider sending your SMS's in English?
And why don't you create a group for 'Tamil Muslims' and 'Keralite Muslims' and 'Marathi Muslims' to send across you SMSs after translating them appropriately.
More than that please as well do send as many SMS in English, to every Muslim even if he does'nt know English.
Because English is the language of the Science and Muslims ought learn English and Arabic both Global languages.
Hope my suggestion would be thought 'provoking'!!
M.M.D.Khan,
Editor, Tamil.Unity Media News
Author's 'Urduwala' arguments stinks of 'Urdu' fanaticism
The author doesn't want to 'De-indianize' Islam and wants to replace 'Urdu' words for Islamic words and asserts it to be her right. This is how 'Chrisitanity' got mutilated into 'Greek', 'Latin', 'Anglican' and as many languages the world has 'Churches'. And today every church follows a 'Separate Religion of its own', making it pretty hard to define 'Christianity', itself.
Interestingly, the author is not the first person to claim such nonsense, as 'Kamal ata turk' preceded her argument in 'Turkey' in favor of 'Turkish' language which he eventually ended up giving an 'European' script.
Today as everybody know 'Kamal ata turk' is kicked into the 'Dust bin' of history and is considered a 'Scondrel' of the worst kind, by majority 'Muslims' in 'Turkey'
Now, I wanna ask the author, would she be using the translated 'Quran Verses' in her prayers? Again will she also argue for the call for prayer from Mosques to be changed to 'Khudha bahuth bada hain'? instead of 'Allahu Akbar'.
If she cannot bring herself to do the above, then what she is talking is fanatic 'Urduwala' non-sense, period.
The author thinks herself to be intelligent, when she drags English Speaking 'American Muslims' into the picture blaming them for siding with 'Arabs' and leaving 'the 'Older' Urduwalas in the lurch' (How old are you girl? As old as 'Hindi-cinima' perhaps, is what urdu language is, flourishing in the courts of 'Mughal' rulers, wasting themselves in Wine, Opium and Girls, of course excepting 'Aurangazeb Alamigir'.
Her above statement clearly underscores the fact that, when 'English speaking Americans' convert to Islam they readily accept the language of 'Al-quran', in the process even to an extant are ready to 'relinquish' and 'accommodate' a 'Global language' with about 2000 years of history, for the sake of 'Allah', 'Islam' and 'Arab' language, the language of 'Al-Quran' and our beloved Prophet.
But our 'Urduwala' fanatic 'Altamas' cannot relinquish a 500 year old 'Urdu' language and is ready to take cudgels dividing 'Islam' and 'Muslims', on the basis of her funny language, used by the worst people in 'Hindi Cinema', to acquire more and more 'ill-gotten' wealth.
These 'Uruduwalas' are divisive forces, in that, where ever they live, they bring 'Chaos', 'Division' and 'Strife', be it in 'Pakistan' or in 'England' or in 'US' or in 'India'. (Twocircles.net has previously clearly stated this, in one of its news editions as to how this "Urduwala" mentality has done great harm for 'Muslim' progress in USA).
I personally have been a victim of this 'Urduwaala' mentality, in 'Government Service', 'Tabliq', 'Jamate-Islaami', even in 'JAQH', as these '500 year old language fanatic 'Scums' divide, scuttle and spread 'canards' about their 'Tamil' speaking, 'Malayaalam' speaking 'Muslims', behind their backs and that too to their non-muslim friends, there by earn their ill-gotten favors from 'Government' and its agencies by all means.
The best example would be that of 'Indira Gandhi' supporting 'Urduwalla Tableegi Jamaat', while imprisoning 'Jamatae-Islami' leaders, as the then 'Tableegi Jamaat' leader wrote a book titled "Fitna-e Mawdudiyyat". For the sake of staying in the good books of 'Indira Gandhi, that 'Urduwalaa Tabliqi' leader never hesitated to 'Stab' a fellow Muslim organization in 'Cold-blood'. That is the 'Typical Urduwalla, Tabliqiwala' fanatics creed.
Today 'Urduwala Fanatic Tableeqi Jamaat' does this turn-coat tactics around the globe, to promote its 'Unislamic and noxious sufi' philosophy and take control of 'Mosques' using a lot of unscrupulous means, so much so that in Chennai Mosques are know to have banned 'Tabliqi' activities in their premises and at least one of them has stated so, in a 'Wall writing'.
The author says she is in 'Kerala' and drags 'Kerelaites' into her 'nonsense' argument.
As history records and vouch for it, keralite Muslims are direct descendants of 'Arab Muslim Traders' dating back to the days of Our beloved 'Prophet Rasoolallah' himself.
Keralite Muslim are far more 'Generous', 'Staunch' Muslims than this 'Hindi Cinema' and 'Tele-serial' eating, Urduwala 'blistering barnacles', who would dare to even substitute Kuran in 'Mosques' as the Sufi 'Tabligiwalaas' do using their 'Amalae Saalihaat' filled with 'Unislamic concoctions'.
'Almas' incidentally cryptozoologically means 'Wild Man', a hominid cryptozoological species reputed to inhabit the Caucasus and Pamir Mountains of central Asia, which is a fitting description of this 'Doctor' (I wanna kick that fellow, who allowed 'a Urdu Fanatic Scum' into a Medical College?) and that of all 'Urdu Fanatics', whom our beloved "Prophet Muhammed" has promptly disowned as not belonging to his people, who fight for their 'Language' and other sectarian causes, dividing Islam.
And the author, 'Urdu Fanatic Scum', choose to use 'Al-quraan' Verses in 'Arabic' and 'English' for her 'Vomit' of an argument is filled with 'Contradictions', which incidentally is one of the main root cause of 'URDUWALAH' strife, where ever these 'Wild' species live.
I have an advice to this 'girl' doctor, who probably should have managed to get admission with some 'Urduwala' tact - 'Physician heal thyself, Stop being a 'Urduwalaa Fanatic' and start becoming a Mulsim', and NOW.
And, I am personally ashamed to be so harsh on her, but after completing her course, the author would know by experience that 'it takes a 'Surgery' to cure certain maladies'.
May Allah guide this 'girl' to see the truth and accept all language speaking 'Muslims' as 'Equal' and to love 'Arab' language for the sake of Allah.
Masalaam.
Khan - this shair fits you like a glove ( You understand urdu?)
Wow - I read it again your vicious, full of venom comments.
You are one of those who belittle others to gain height.
You are so full of yourself that you don't even realize that
how much you are going against the teachings of our Deen.
Read this Qatah written by Yagna yaas Changezi -
Khudi ka nasha chadha, aape main raha na gaya
Khuda banay thay Yagana, magar bana na gaya
Sab terey siwa kafir, Aakhir iss ka matlab kya
Sar phira dey insaan ka, Aisa khabt-e-mazhab kya.
Dear brother 'Ashfaq' please turn to 'Al-quran'...
Brother 'Ashfaq' even while ridiculing me you are quoting a 'Shair' of some 'Urdu' 'Changezi'.
Why don't you turn to 'Al-quran' and find something to 'chide' me with?
This world at least has about 2 billion or 200 crore Muslims. You know what? Of this 200 crore Muslims at the most there are some 2 crore 'Urdu Speaking Muslims'.
Now, we all know that all 200 crore Muslims, to the least would know about Al-quran and should have some form of access to it in their own language.
And above all 'Al-quran' is the world of 'Immortal Allah'.
Against this your 'Yagna yaas Changezi' and his 'Qatas' at the most might be known to just 1% of the total Muslims, in this world.
Now even if you want to 'argue' with please do so with 'Al-quran', the word of 'Allah' who created you and me, given in 'Chaste Arabic' and today is available translated in most languages.
I simply see what 'Allah' and his 'Prophet' and 'Islam' has to say on a certain thing.
If somebody consider 'Persian' and 'Urdu' as superior a language, somebody else would consider their language and culture to be far too 'Superior' than these languages.
For instance my language 'Tamil' has got 3000 years of history, so much so that one 'Anthropologist' at least to my knowledge claims the first man and womna, 'Prophent Adam' and his wife 'Havva' to have been here in 'Tamilnadu' citing 'Adam's Bridge' between 'Srilanka' and 'India' for his argument.
All these arguments based on language, nationality, culture and race are highly divisive. The more we become 'divisive', the more we 'divide' Islam, and Allah and his Prophet has forbidden that.
Now let us come to your accusations:
1. I read it again your vicious, full of venom comments.
Well what for were I venomous? For the sake of Islam and to ensure that the right perspective is presented, when something as 'UnIslamic' as that of 'Kamal-ata-turk' is presented in a public forum by a 'Physician' who could have directed her 'energies' against far bigger 'evils' that are afflicting 'Muslims' today.
2. You are one of those who belittle others to gain height.
'Urduwallaahs' has been doing this to all non-urdu speaking Muslims all the while and when somebody returns your favor you start 'Wailing'.
3. You are so full of yourself that you don't even realize that how much you are going against the teachings of our Deen.
This is really a serious accusation. My intention was to convey the Islamic Idea that 'All Language' speaking Muslims are 'Equal', in that an 'Arab' is not superior than an 'Ajam' and vice-versa.
As accused by you, had I been full of myself, I seek refuge with 'Allah' from the promptings of satans. I also beseech 'Allah' to forgive me, and guide me in the path of righteousness.
Allah says 'O Humankind verily We! We have created you Of a male and female, and We have made you nations and tribes that ye might know one another. Verily the noblest of you with Allah is the most God-fearing of you; verily Allah is Knowing, Aware" (Al-Quraqn, Al-Hujraat Verse 13)
And may Allah bestow upon all Muslims the noblest of Characters, the 'Fear of Allah', for those who 'Fear Allah' fear none else.
So much hatred
So much hatred really surprises me and kills the very purpose of Islam. Difference should be tried to be sorted out with more interaction and dialogue.Then just developing prejudices
The root cause of 'Hatred' is 'Vanity' and 'Pride'...
@anonymous. Your 'generalized' accusation of 'hatred' is unjust and shows a 'particular' lack of interest in 'dialogue' or 'interaction', as you have failed to address or respond to the 'Persiano-urdu' issues 'raised' in the article of the 'Author', whom I think has 'Shiite' roots and leanings.
And this is exactly the root-cause of the problem, as I see it. Because a whole lot of people with differing ideologies tend to use 'Urdu' as a 'Shield' and 'Elevator' to consolidate and elevate their status in 'Society', so much so as to become 'Unmindful' of 'Islam' or 'Arabic'. (These days when somebody who knows Tamil well, ask me 'Urdu Maalum hai'? I simply retort them with 'Do you know English'?)
These people fail to understand that 'this world is but transient'. And the worst thing is this is the case with many a learned 'Scholars' of different schools of thoughts.
Though I can be branded as a 'Salaafi', we admire 'Komeni', 'Ahmedinejad' and 'Iranian' progress, for the sake of 'Allah' and 'Islam. But in turn what we get is, an effort to 'divide' Muslims on the basis of 'Language' and 'Sect', and a self-righteous 'sermon', to justify a 'divisive act', that has no basis in Islam and is against the preaching of Islam itself.
I am not saying, me or for that matter other 'non-urdu' speaking Muslims are without fault. But even to allow an 'introspection' of one's own fault, the pre-condition should be that the other party should be 'considerate' and should be filled with 'good-will', rather than this, 'I am superior than Islam' attitude.
In Islam 'Fear of Allah' is the only basis, that makes a person 'Superior' over the other.
And any dialogue and interaction between Muslims with different viewpoints would become beneficial to 'Islam' and righteousness, if we 'Muslims' to whatever background we belong, start approaching issues, 'Fearing our Maker' (Though it should not become a reason for 'inactivity' and 'idleness).
And you have also missed my 'Penultimate' point completely regarding the 'necessary Surgery', that rather is resorted to as a 'Goodwill' measure rather than the superficial 'Hatred' you witnessed from a certain viewpoint.
And moreover a 'dialogue' between opposing views would be better if it is 'Frank', rather than a 'Flowery back stab', which instead of leading to 'reconciliation' would 'aggravate' issues.
I beseech Allah to Guide us all in Righteousness and Forgive, all our 'Sins', and bestow us with knowledge, prosperity and success, here and in the hereafter.
Honest Comment
I think now there is hope of the reform in the muslim community of the country. Stress on education is the only way for development of the community
Author's 'Urduwala' arguments stinks of 'Urdu' fanaticism
The author doesn't want to 'De-indianize' Islam and wants to replace 'Urdu' words for Islamic words and asserts it to be her right. This is how 'Chrisitanity' got mutilated into 'Greek', 'Latin', 'Anglican' and as many languages the world has 'Churches'. And today every church follows a 'Separate Religion of its own', making it pretty hard to define 'Christianity', itself.
Interestingly, the author is not the first person to claim such nonsense, as 'Kamal ata turk' preceded her argument in 'Turkey' in favor of 'Turkish' language which he eventually ended up giving an 'European' script.
Today as everybody know 'Kamal ata turk' is kicked into the 'Dust bin' of history and is considered a 'Scondrel' of the worst kind, by majority 'Muslims' in 'Turkey'
Now, I wanna ask the author, would she be using the translated 'Quran Verses' in her prayers? Again will she also argue for the call for prayer from Mosques to be changed to 'Khudha bahuth bada hain'? instead of 'Allahu Akbar'.
If she cannot bring herself to do the above, then what she is talking is fanatic 'Urduwala' non-sense, period.
The author thinks herself to be intelligent, when she drags English Speaking 'American Muslims' into the picture blaming them for siding with 'Arabs' and leaving 'the 'Older' Urduwalas in the lurch' (How old are you girl? As old as 'Hindi-cinima' perhaps, is what urdu language is, flourishing in the courts of 'Mughal' rulers, wasting themselves in Wine, Opium and Girls, of course excepting 'Aurangazeb Alamigir'.
Her above statement clearly underscores the fact that, when 'English speaking Americans' convert to Islam they readily accept the language of 'Al-quran', in the process even to an extant are ready to 'relinquish' and 'accommodate' a 'Global language' with about 2000 years of history, for the sake of 'Allah', 'Islam' and 'Arab' language, the language of 'Al-Quran' and our beloved Prophet.
But our 'Urduwala' fanatic 'Altamas' cannot relinquish a 500 year old 'Urdu' language and is ready to take cudgels dividing 'Islam' and 'Muslims', on the basis of her funny language, used by the worst people in 'Hindi Cinema', to acquire more and more 'ill-gotten' wealth.
These 'Uruduwalas' are divisive forces, in that, where ever they live, they bring 'Chaos', 'Division' and 'Strife', be it in 'Pakistan' or in 'England' or in 'US' or in 'India'. (Twocircles.net has previously clearly stated this, in one of its news editions as to how this "Urduwala" mentality has done great harm for 'Muslim' progress in USA).
I personally have been a victim of this 'Urduwaala' mentality, in 'Government Service', 'Tabliq', 'Jamate-Islaami', even in 'JAQH', as these '500 year old language fanatic 'Scums' divide, scuttle and spread 'canards' about their 'Tamil' speaking, 'Malayaalam' speaking 'Muslims', behind their backs and that too to their non-muslim friends, there by earn their ill-gotten favors from 'Government' and its agencies by all means.
The best example would be that of 'Indira Gandhi' supporting 'Urduwalla Tableegi Jamaat', while imprisoning 'Jamatae-Islami' leaders, as the then 'Tableegi Jamaat' leader wrote a book titled "Fitna-e Mawdudiyyat". For the sake of staying in the good books of 'Indira Gandhi, that 'Urduwalaa Tabliqi' leader never hesitated to 'Stab' a fellow Muslim organization in 'Cold-blood'. That is the 'Typical Urduwalla, Tabliqiwala' fanatics creed.
Today 'Urduwala Fanatic Tableeqi Jamaat' does this turn-coat tactics around the globe, to promote its 'Unislamic and noxious sufi' philosophy and take control of 'Mosques' using a lot of unscrupulous means, so much so that in Chennai Mosques are know to have banned 'Tabliqi' activities in their premises and at least one of them has stated so, in a 'Wall writing'.
The author says she is in 'Kerala' and drags 'Kerelaites' into her 'nonsense' argument.
As history records and vouch for it, keralite Muslims are direct descendants of 'Arab Muslim Traders' dating back to the days of Our beloved 'Prophet Rasoolallah' himself.
Keralite Muslim are far more 'Generous', 'Staunch' Muslims than this 'Hindi Cinema' and 'Tele-serial' eating, Urduwala 'blistering barnacles', who would dare to even substitute Kuran in 'Mosques' as the Sufi 'Tabligiwalaas' do using their 'Amalae Saalihaat' filled with 'Unislamic concoctions'.
'Almas' incidentally cryptozoologically means 'Wild Man', a hominid cryptozoological species reputed to inhabit the Caucasus and Pamir Mountains of central Asia, which is a fitting description of this 'Doctor' (I wanna kick that fellow, who allowed 'a Urdu Fanatic Scum' into a Medical College?) and that of all 'Urdu Fanatics', whom our beloved "Prophet Muhammed" has promptly disowned as not belonging to his people, who fight for their 'Language' and other sectarian causes, dividing Islam.
And the author, 'Urdu Fanatic Scum', choose to use 'Al-quraan' Verses in 'Arabic' and 'English' for her 'Vomit' of an argument is filled with 'Contradictions', which incidentally is one of the main root cause of 'URDUWALAH' strife, where ever these 'Wild' species live.
I have an advice to this 'girl' doctor, who probably should have managed to get admission with some 'Urduwala' tact - 'Physician heal thyself, Stop being a 'Urduwalaa Fanatic' and start becoming a Mulsim', and NOW.
And, I am personally ashamed to be so harsh on her, but after completing her course, the author would know by experience that 'it takes a 'Surgery' to cure certain maladies'.
May Allah guide this 'girl' to see the truth and accept all language speaking 'Muslims' as 'Equal' and to love 'Arab' language for the sake of Allah.
Masalaam.
Khan -- Are you for real ?
You are not a mature person - Almas (you changed her name to Altamas - Shame on you ) had put her thoughts on paper - She has every right to do that. You also have every right to oppose her views. But being childish and name calling like Urduwala Fanatic Altamas and also commenting that she thinks herself to be intelligent, asking how old is she?
The problem with people like you is --What you feel and what you think is right - My Way or the Highway - Mere siwa sab Kaafir.
You may not agree with somebody because of your stubborness or ego but also you should not insult the other person.
You have seperated Aurangzeb from the other Mughal Kings - Why because Alamgir Killed his Brothers and jailed his father to occupy the throne? Murder is not a big crime in your eyes but Wine, Opium and Girls are.
Ashfaq - read my reply to you above and decide..
Brother Ashfaq please consider my replies to you and others apart from 'Author Almas', before jumping into conclusions.
When it comes to something 'Anti-Islamic' and 'Dividing' the 'Islamic Ummah', Prophet Muhammed (Pbuh) has clearly shown an example by becoming angry and chastising people appropriately.
In one instante Prophet Muhammed (Pbuh) was saying, "He is not one us who calls for `Asabiyah, (nationalism/tribalism) or who fights for `Asabiyah or who dies for `Asabiyah."
" ...People should give up their pride in nations because this is a coal from the coals of hell-fire. If they do not give this up Allah (swt) will consider them lower than a lowly worm which pushes itself through khur (feces)." [abu Dawd and Tirmidhi].
Can you understand the seriousness of trying to raise oneself on the 'Pedestal' of 'Persian' or 'Urdu' superiority over other 'Muslims' or trying to divide 'Muslims' on similar 'Nationalistic' lines?
If I had been attacking 'Almas' personally, it was because to show that such 'non-sense' would not go unchallenged, as these days of 'free-for' all internet has given an opportunity to 'vested' interests who had manage to learn English with some 'rotten' English fiction.
Against how Our beloved Prophet railed against such people as the above stated Hadhees vouch for, mine is nothing.
Initially I thought 'Almas' were a 'Hanafi Urduwala Fanatic' and hence my 'blistering barnacles' attack.
But eventually upon seeing her 'blogs' I realized that her background along with that of you guys is 'Shia' and that restricted me from saying more. Because, the more I say anything, you guys are gonna display more tantrums and become more furious and hence more alienated, which I don't want to happen.
That is the reason why, myself being a 'Salafi' I revealed our goodwill towards Imam Khomeni, Iran and Ahmedinejad, though we have difference of opinion in many aspects.
My stance is this. You can mount any amount of personal attack on me. I won't care or retort. Because the more I am disgraced unjustly, I would be rewarded in kind from 'Allah', whose compassion I rely for my salvation.
But at the same time, I won't stand idle, seeing somebody harming the 'Righteous' path of Islam and misguiding others, while in the process knowingly or unknowingly harming themselves as well.
As a 'Muslim' it is my duty to assist them. If I over did it, I am sorry. But my intentions were as stated above.
Again, I never called anybody a 'Kafir' all through this discussion, as my intentions were to bridge 'Shia-Sunni' divide rather than to aggravate existing situation.
And then, Your accusing me of stubbornness and ego is because of your 'vested' interests, which incidentally I haven't acquired such 'interests' due to my upbringing, and which also is the reason why you accuse 'Aurangazeb Alamgir' the only 'Indian Ruler' who lived on the proceeds of his own hard work, in copying and selling Al-quran.
As to why 'Aurangazeb' did what he did with his father and brothers is something I don't want to delve in detail here as a 'Journalist' and as a 'Student' of History, for the fear of 'Allah', lest I may go astray on flimsy grounds.
But for your information 'Humayun' who became a 'Shia' under the pressure of the 'Persian' ruler in return for the latter's support for his war effort to regain his lost crown too, had not had so good an experiences with his brothers and it is said tha without his knowledge, one of his brother was tortured in captivity and blinded by branding.
And incidentally Wine, Opium and Girls do lead to 'Murder' invariably, though I accept 'Murder' is relatively a far too bigger a 'Crime'.
So in conclusion, it would be evident by now that, I am being accused of the 'shortcomings' of you guys, while I stand corrected in a few respects, in not giving the respects due to a 'Muslim Lady Doctor'.
Allah-hafiz vs khuda hafiz
Although there is no wrong in saying khuda hafiz but saying Allah hafiz is always better.It not a matter of being adamant to saying something that u feel like being imposed by somebody.As a muslim u cannot deny the fact that Quran is the word of Allah.Allah is the Quranic name of God mentioned by Him itself.Nowhere wud u find khuda as a name for god in Quran.As regards ur question of dis liking de indianization of Indian Muslims, let me tell u that true islam being a complete code of life does not advocate nationality hence there is no point in saying an indian muslim as far as faith and conviction are concernen.Muslims for that matter are one ummah.A sincere advice is to shun the prejudice and the go off the pride.Allah shows the truest way to one whom He is pleased with.
Great post
great post, but you got messed it up to make it long, too long to read. in this electronic age we usually dont find time to read so long, keep it simple and descriptive and to the point. please. by the way, i hav read it whole. :)
allah hafiz or khuda hafis
i think there is abig problem in using khuda .. Allah is the arbiv god and allah knows only arbic
so if you khuda hafis then eventhough we know alla and khuda are same but allah may not understand we amy not get protection
so use ALLAH HAFIZ only
ALLAH Hafiz 3 times
Allah-Hafiz/Khuda Hafiz
Allah knows everything. He knows every language. So there is no matter to say Allah Hafiz or Khuda Hafiz.
ARABIC EXPRESSIONS PREFERABLE
ACTIONS ARE TO BE JUDGED BY THE MOTIVES WHICH PROMPT THEM, HENCE, WHEN ONE BIDS FAREWELL, BY SAYING "KHUDA HAFIZ" WHAT THE PERSON MEANS IS "MAY YOU BE UNDER THE PROTECTION OF ALLAH." THUS, BOTH "KHUDA HAFIZ" AND "ALLAH HAFIZ" MEAN THE SAME THING. BUT BETWEEN ARABIC EXPRESSIONS, WHICH WERE USED BY OUR HOLY PROPHET (s.a.w.s) AND THEIR EQUIVALENTS IN OTHER LANGUAGES, MUSLIMS SHOULD PREFER THE FORMER.
S.M.PASHA
Nationalism and chauvinism
This article epitomises the disease in the hearts of Many Muslims; Nationalism and chauvinism for one's language. There is absolutely no issue with Saying Khuda, though it is appropriate to say Allah. Just like in the days of Jahiliyah the arabs used to greet each other 'Good morning,' and then after the advent of Islam, the Prophet used Assalamu-Alaikum, as the greeting epitomises Islam.
Pity, you got stuckup with
Pity, you got stuckup with small issue. This Allah Hafiz is creation of our neibhours. I might be wrong. Consult a learned person instead of Neem Hakeem khatrey jan. When it is said that over 70 firkeys will be there, so why fuss is there. Arabic was chosen as a standard and to unite muslims throughout the world. Dua should be in local language, so that the devotee understands and it comes from their hearts. But I just love to learn more and more languages. Try to say :sutto-sutto to a Sindhibhai and half of your job is done... I dont know why I poke my nose everywhere.. Maas-salaam, fee aman Allah, Kullo aam antum bakhair, Khuda Hafiz.
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Allah Hafiz vs Khuda Hafiz
Its better to use the word which Allah SWT had used for himself in Quran. He used "Allah" in Quran and its unique so should be better. This is my personal opinion. I have no problem with Khuda Hafiz. A little bit problem Kaashif bhai with "Bhagwan Hafiz or Ishwar Hafiz". These words are identified with a specific religion which is different than Islam. So will prefer not to use. Second thing, ALLAH is a unique word and Allah SWT used in Quran for himself
sure.. thanks....
sure..
thanks....
What is there in naming?
Almas,
why all this long humbug discussion. I called it 'Ahmed-Giri'! One Mr.Ahmed I knew was speaking too much , showing him more smarter as you are trying to prove yourself!
You yourself is admired calling God as Allah instead Khuda in one of your finest para.
The religious litrature of Islam in subcontinent is basically in Urdu,
Persian and Urdu are sister languages, Muslim period in India ruled by Moughals used Persian as their official language, hence they used Khuda instead of Allah and latter it is opted by Urdu speaking Muslims.
Accordingly there is no harm or wrong calling Allah as Khuda.
Mr. Abdul Kader quoting your
Mr. Abdul Kader
quoting your words
"You yourself is admired calling God as Allah instead Khuda in one of your finest para."
and
"Accordingly there is no harm or wrong calling Allah as Khuda."
the exact message of my humbug discussion---- Allah and Khuda are the same. so, why stop me from using 'Khuda'?
Thank you
2nd Mr. Ahmed.:)
An 'Ahmed-Giri' by sister Almas!
Dear sister Almas,
The same thing you are referring as I.
I fully endorsed you, there is no harm calling Allah as Khuda for we Urdu speaking people in sub continent.
I have objection on your 'Ahmed-Giri', unnecessarily, while everybody is submissive, you are raising the minor issue with great enthuthiasm.
My brother..by the comments
My brother..by the comments does it still appear that all are submissive ??
:P
Khuda hi Hafiz
To, Almas Kiran Shamim : a hurried note, glanced yr subject effort.. encouraged to suggest :
1. These are very small things to engage in, ALLAH SWT knows before we utter words. He is all knowing but His listening and speaking and seeing is beyond our apprehension- systems.. that is why He is unique ( AHAD), no one is like Him. When we say I can see the wall, means I can see up to the wall and not beyond BUT when He looks at our requested wall: whole universe with all creations so far and beyond summons along with the wall ( in question). To tell you the truth, even this explanation is so week that I am ashamed of even daring this explanation with human-sense perception..... To His reality, I can be 100% wrong. Why : It took ages for saints like Maulana Romi to understand this reality but some times it takes seconds as well, the condition is : ILLA-MASHA-ALLAH ! I quote Hazrat ALI rATa “ Jis nai Khud ko pehchana, us nai KHUDA ( ALLAH swt ) ko pehchana.”
2. When you say Khuda Hafiz, you are using 50% Persian and 50% Arabic.
3. Its strange in our subcontinent along with Iran, majority of our great saints and Ulamas have used the word KHUDA, even in Quranic translations ?
4. We must use words and deeds based on the Sunnah only.
M Jawed Shervani
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yeah sure!!! :)
yeah sure!!!
:)
Khuda Hafiz Almas
Almas has got it all wrong.
its all due to ignorance about Tauheed(oneness in all aspects).She should contact
a salafi alim in her area to understand Aqqeday Tauheed.
Allah is a proper noun.Allah is the personal name of our creator Allah(swt).
for eg.I cannot change your name Almas kiran shamim by translating the
meaning of these three words into other languages.
llah is unique word.no one can play games with this word by adding suffixes to other langiage
words like Goddess,gods,godfather,godmother etc.
better for her to research in medical feild like gtnaecologist where muslims are being
systematically targeted for Ceasarean operations by Govt backed RSS encouraged
ethnic cleansing in the mothers womb.
Salafi B/AQ Khuda-Hafiz!
'Bud-Aqidah' Salafi,
This is not the forum to propagate your Salafi brand of Islam.
How you dare to advice Almas to contact and take the advice in this regard from only Salafi 'bud-Aqidah' so called Alim.
If really you wanted to spread and serve Islam sincerely, you may advised her to contact some learned Alim instead Salafi, you are having bankrupt narrow mentality, spoiled the true spirit of Islam , thus Muslims are been killed like animals all over.
May Allah help us. Ameen.
just two things one - the
just two things
one - the moment you mention that i need to contact a salafi aalim to learn Tauheed, i know that we live in two different realms of the world.
two- Almas Kiran Shamim is my proper noun, the common noun being 'human'..... homo sapiens- a species.... a species that has lots and lots of members...
now if you call 'Human, come here'. it could mean any human in the billions of humans who exist. Thereby, makin a proper noun essential.... and so we have names.
Allah Paak is not 'one of the members of his species' my friend. Allah Paak khud mei ek zaat hain. He is the one sole Creator in the species of Creators. One Creator of all... transcending language, culture and even religion. Callin upon the Creator will always call upon the one and the same entity- THE CREATOR. THE GOD. THE KHUDA. THE ALLAH.
If i dont come across to you, I'm sorry, but, I tried.
Thanks, all the same.
Salaf means Sahaba
Salaf means Sahaba Karam(raziallahanhuma).No true muslim can ever
distance himself/herself from the way of salaf.
like Quran translation can never be claimed as orginal Quran in arabic ,
similarly the word Allah cannot be expressed truely in translations like
God,Eeshwar,Bhagwan etc
Its only and only islam which is truely monotheistic religion.All other
religions are polytheistic ideologies.Their concept of God is totally contradicting
with concept of Allah(swt).
so many human beings are frequently being referred to as God like some
people believe Ram Krishna Jesus and even Sachin tendulkar as god of cricket etc.
hinduism believes in an omnipresent God thus everything like you and me snakes
become gods.now if in such ignorant stupidity if you donot take care
to explain the concept of Allah (swt)to these non muslim audiences then
danger is that unknowingly we too will endorse their concept of God.
ultimately they will never be able to truly grasp the true concept of Allah(swt).
hope this explains the motive behind insistence on using Allah.
Allah Hafiz
Salaf means Sahaba
Salaf means Sahaba Karam(raziallahanhuma).No true muslim can ever
distance himself/herself from the way of salaf.
like Quran translation can never be claimed as orginal Quran in arabic ,
similarly the word Allah cannot be expressed truely in translations like
God,Eeshwar,Bhagwan etc
Its only and only islam which is truely monotheistic religion.All other
religions are polytheistic ideologies.Their concept of God is totally contradicting
with concept of Allah(swt).
so many human beings are frequently being referred to as God like some
people believe Ram Krishna Jesus and even Sachin tendulkar as god of cricket etc.
hinduism believes in an omnipresent God thus everything like you and me snakes
become gods.now if in such ignorant stupidity if you donot take care
to explain the concept of Allah (swt)to these non muslim audiences then
danger is that unknowingly we too will endorse their concept of God.
ultimately they will never be able to truly grasp the true concept of Allah(swt).
hope this explains the motive behind insistence on using Allah.
Allah Hafiz
Allah Hafiz vs. Khuda Hafiz
assalamo alaikum,
brother i agree vth ur saying dat allah doesnt require languages 2 understand his beleivers allah even not requires word he knows d heart and things going in once mind .he iz all hearer,all knower and there iz none comparable unto him.but for d topic i want 2 say dat calling khuda iz not wrong but its better we call almighty by word allah since dis word contains all attributes of d creator for example if we call almighty by d word rabb it state only one attribute dat of a sustainer and in same way d arabic word "rahman" and "rahim " translated "most gracious" and "most merciful " are both intensive forms referring to different aspects of allah attribute of mercy.
may allah bless us and guide us so dat we keep walking in light of allah's grace.
quoting you ""calling khuda
quoting you
""calling khuda iz not wrong but its better we call almighty by word allah since dis word contains all attributes of d creator ""
totally agree...
thanks..
Good point sister. I even
Good point sister. I even want to add that some of our Islamic scholar say dont say God because it will add as gods & godes etc. I feel every one who say god is refer to his GOD which he or she worship. We need to be open minded. Since my business is translation I dont find any difference between God, Bhagwan & Allah its all depends to people who they worshiping.
:) When someone says 'God
:) When someone says 'God created the World'..... i wonder what picture comes to the mind of ppl who are against the use of the word 'god'. :)
Word Allah used in Qura’an 2698 times
Unnecessary article; without any reason, author says that he will says Khuda, so he has right to say Khuda.
Word Allah is best than word Khuda, because word Allah selected by Allah Himself. Muslims in India can say Khuda, but saying Allah is more comprehensive.
Word Allah used in Qura’an 2698 times.
Read whole Qura’an and then say to me that which word selected by Allah himself, Khuda or Allah.
Ulema in entire world agreed that Allah is best word to use for Allah, because this name selected by Allah himself.
Skip-Reading
Apparently, a lot many readers have skipped the folng para--
""There are definitely reasons why you can tell me to use ‘Allah hafiz’ instead of ‘Khuda hafiz’. The best being that Allah calls Himself Allah in the Qur’an. Also, that saying the ‘word’ Allah itself brings blessings and that it binds the Ummati in a common thread. If you give me these reasons I will agree with you. However, if you give me the stupid reason that a Parsi also calls God ‘khuda’ than you are going to get a piece of my mind.""
The question is not about the supremacy of the word... the question is about the permissibility of the word.
appreciation
Went through the POST and enjoyed the intellectual presentation. Congratulations!
It should also be borne in mind that advocates of using 'Allah' , 'Salah/Salat' or 'Saum' instead of 'Khuda' , 'Namaz' or ' Roza(h)' are also sincere in their belief , but they haven't attained the intellectual sublimity already attained by Almas.
May Allah (I mustn't be acused of not using Khuda) guide us!
Thank you..
Am sure they're sincere in their beliefs....that's what beliefs are.. it cant be a belief if we rnt really sincere bout it...
khuda hafiz
well expressed and i fully agree with you.
thank you..
thank you..
allah hafis or khuda hafis
Dear lamas beta
assalam alaikum
i read your complete email. and I would like to say here only one thing. please do not take any offensive or defensive on the subject of Allah hafis, and khuda hafis. Since you are medical student you should have very brought way of thinking. you are our future representative of Muslim Ummah. And we should be more strong and more flexible in practicing Islam. I would suggest here do continue what is very appropriate to you.But at the same time try to accommodate the values from the logical views. I hope my small suggestion will help you in future for you to solve lots of different small issues of Islamic school of thoughts.
jazakallah khair.
shahnawaz mohammed
Toronto- Canada.
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