Book review: Islamism and Democracy in India
Submitted by admin on 11 June 2010 - 8:00am
By Kashif-ul-Huda, TwoCircles.net
Jamaat-e-Islami Hind of today is not the same organization that Abu Ala Maudidi launched in 1941. Starting with the aim of establishing Islamic governance, its purpose and role in India has slowly changed to the Jamaat becoming a champion of secularism and democracy. Its detractors will say that this apparent change in Jamaat-e-Islami Hind (JIH) is just tactical, but researcher Irfan Ahmad’s extensive ethnographic fieldwork, archival research, and data analysis, published as “Islamism and Democracy in India: The Transformation of Jamaat-e-Islami,” proves that the JIH belief in secularism and democracy is “deeply ideological.”
The Jamaat began its life as an isolationist organization, it was an idea chosen by journalist-turned-Islamist-ideologue Maududi who made attainment of an “Islamic state”-the main goal of this organization. Striving for the Islamic state meant that Jamaat members could not participate in democracy, seek government employment, or even study in universities as these were considered helping a non-Islamic system. “Any institution that did not confirm to the Jamaat’s definition of Islam was idolatrous, whether it was run by Muslims or non-Muslims.” [p.73]
To provide alternative to its members and supporters, JIH started a number of primary schools and institutions for higher education. Jamiatul Falah in Azamgarh was founded in 1962 towards the end. Talking about the Green School, established in Aligarh to prepare future members and leaders, Irfan Ahmad, through his painstaking research, shows that “instead of transforming the society, the school was transformed by the society.” Establishment of schools brought the Jamaat closer to common Muslims. The goal of the school and parents were not aligned but it was the pressure from the masses with aspirations for their children to move ahead in a materialistic world that slowly forced school administration to seek government recognition for their school.
The Jamaat’s position on Aligarh Muslim University (AMU) depicts the process of change in this organization. AMU was originally considered a “slaughterhouse” by Maududi since in his views modern universities take away the spirit of Islam from the students. So strong was this feeling that Jamaat members and sympathizers were banned from studying or teaching at AMU. Ban on sympathizers was lifted in 1957 but members had to wait till 1960s to get admission in AMU. In 1965, the Jamaat, in a total departure from its founder’s position, defended the “Muslim character” of the AMU.
Similarly, the Jamaat had slowly come to accept the electoral democracy. It was only in 1980s that members were allowed to vote in the elections which Ahmad informs us was “a culmination of a long drawn out internal process- from 1961 to 1985- within the Jamaat” [Author's emphasis]. This happened because “Islamism,” or Islam as understood by the Jamaat, “is not frozen in discourse but is dynamic,” argues Ahmad. For Maududi, Islam was synonymous with the Islamic state but Jamaate Islami Hind came to the realization that “an Islamic state is just one among several aspects of Islam, not the foundation.” This was possible because “in the changed context of postcolonial India, the Jamaat (re)interpreted Maududi’s ideology and came to a new interpretation of Islam.” [p.190] This thinking came about because the myth that an Islamic state was just around the corner was broken, and according to Ahmad, this happened because the Muslim public rejected the Jamaat ideology by not joining in its boycott of elections, government jobs, or modern education.
Now a defender of secularism and democracy, the Jamaat refused to go along with the Republic Day boycott call issued by the Babri Masjid Coordination Committee in December 1986. In fact, a year after Babri Masjid’s demolition, it helped form the Forum for Democracy and Communal Amity (FDCA). This was the first instance of the Jamaat building an alliance with non-Muslim activists. A decade later, it invited Shankracharya to one of its meetings where the Hindu religious leader blew a conch and chanted “Om.”
Spread over 300 pages, this book fills an important gap in the research of Indian Muslims. Discourse about Islam and Muslims in India is laced with either ignorance or deliberate attempt at obfuscation. There is a lack of original research among various aspects of Indian Muslim life and history. Irfan Ahmad did a wonderful job of gathering information from original sources, interspersed with field visits and data analysis. It is social science research at its best.
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Book: Islamism and Democracy in India: The Transformation of Jamaat-e-Islami Author: Irfan Ahmad Publisher: Princeton University Press Year: 2009 ISBN: 9780691139203 |
This book is also a wonderful source of information on the Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) and how it became radicalized in response to a growing Hindutva mobilization against Muslims. Banned since 2001, SIMI has been blamed for terrorism in India but there is very little in public domain about this organization. Ahmad, with original literature, traces the radicalization of SIMI, but there is nothing there to suggest that SIMI ever went beyond rhetoric. Even the government, though continuing the ban on SIMI has not been able to show any evidence of its involvement in terrorism. JIH broke ties with SIMI in early 1980s.
Students Islamic Organization (SIO) was launched in 1982 and continue to function under the guidance of JIH. During the 1990s when SIMI was getting increasingly political, SIO remained apolitical and focused on its work for the welfare of Muslim students. Even after the 2002 anti-Muslim genocide in Gujarat, SIO remained responsible in its reaction. The book chronicles many showdowns that SIMI and SIO had in Jamiatul Falah. The approach taken by activists of the organizations responding to various incidents showed the much different temperament of the two organizations that share the same ideological roots.
Even outside the Indian context, this book is important in understanding why Islamists become radicalized. The Indian version of Jamaat-e-Islami evolved to become a defender of secularism and democracy, whereas the same organization in Pakistan and Bangladesh charted a different path. Ahmad gives examples of Egypt and Algeria where Islamists have become radicalized as a result of brutal state repression. In Pakistan and Bangladesh, the Jamaat took advantage of electoral democracy and participated in elections but they have been only marginally successful. While JIH contemplates participating in electoral democracy as a political party it should keep in mind the failed experiments of its fraternal organizations in neighboring countries. JIH has served Muslims of India well as a social and welfare organization and it should remain so.
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good book review, but i do
good book review, but i do not agree with the advice of
kashif to jamaat to become apolitical.
Malaysia,Iran,Turkey and Saudi Arabia.
Dear brothers,
Saudi Arabia is not an ideal Islamic nation.World's majority of Muslims do not accept Wahabi ideology of Saudi Arabia.It is your friends like United States and Israel which support the monarchy of Saudi Arabia.
No any present nation is fully Islamic.Malaysia,Iran and present day Turkey are more closer to Islam than Arab nations.
Still Saudi Arabia is far better than Gujarat as it do not burn human beings alive.In Saudi, there is no state-sponsered gang rapes as happened in Gujarat.S.Arabia is better than United States and Israel as it do not kill human beings(remember Iraq, Palastein).
Still I say Democratic India is more Islamic than S.Arabia if RSS and upper caste dominant social order are eradicated.
Malasia, Iran and Turkey are
Malasia, Iran and Turkey are not fully Islamic nations
ISLAM IN TURKEY,IRAN and Malasia
The official Islam of Turkey,Malaysia and Iran are carrying the divinity of Islam more than the official Islam of Saudi Arabia and orthodox groups of Pakistan.I think the Salafi style of interpretation make Islam dry.
KSA is thousand times better
KSA is thousand times better than Israel
I really like this website
Some hindus are idiots. They think Indian muslims are patriotic Indians and do not hate hinduism. I wish they would visit this website.I learn so much every day about what our muslim brothers think of us. I am really grateful.
Faulty defaults...
Prashant,
The default in your mind that India means Hindu need to change. How come on this earth loving Hindus must be loving India. You need to thank TCN that despite your foolish defaults, your comments are being published. You need visit to numerous hate sites run by Hindus and supportedby the Zionists and be unbiased in your analysis. I need not tell you more. The use of term 'muslim brothers' is as bad as Bajpai's argument "who started it first,,,,"
For Sameer and Haneef
According to historian Philip Jenkins, Egyptians Hassan Al Banna and Sayyid Qutb read Maududi. Qutb "borrowed and expanded" Mawdudi's concept of jahiliyya (pagan ignorance) being a modern as well as pre-Muhammadan phenomenon, and of the need for an Islamist revolutionary vanguard movement. His ideas influenced Abdullah Azzam, the Palestinian Islamist jurist, who in turn influenced the young Osama bin Laden during the anti-Soviet war in Afghanistan.
You will find a hundred similar references on the internet describing the influence of Maududi and Qutb on both Bin Laden and Zawahiri. However, as I said before, I respect your right to have a different opinion.
But...
Ghulam,
The many things on internet should not be taken as 'Gospel Truth'. The lame duck support from internet shows what you stand for.
The Internet
The Internet does not create any articles. The articles are derived from diverse sources. It is up to the reader to pick authors with good credentials. It is the same as using a library. You can pick the best books or the worst books from the library. It is up to you. Nobody relies entirely on the internet, though it can be useful at times.
Instead of arguing the points, some people asperse the sources of their opponents, perhaps because it is easier!
Ghulam,hatred prevent us from admitting the truth.
I can give many evidences that Syed Maududi was against any idea of armed struggle and secret working style.Even strong critics like Siauddin Sardar has admitted it.
Ghulam,Dont be a western puppet.
Dear Ghulam,
In this era of US and Israel funded intellectuals and websites, you can see any number of internet links with many kinds of allegations against Islam.Some websites allege Shiite Islam is the root of terrorism.Some are against old Shia scholars but some are against modern shiites like Ali Shariati and Khumaini. Some weblinks are about Sufi connections of terrorism .Some others are alleging old scholars like Ibnu Abdul Wahab and Ibnu Taymiah and their followers called Wahabis as ideologues of terrorism.Some Westerners allege Hasanul Banna and Maududi. Dear Ghulam, what do you want?.To become a good boy of imperial powers or to be a honest human being?. The decision is yours.
Haneef's Question
Haneef asked me, "what do you want?.To become a good boy of imperial powers?"
While you and I may have different views, I do not feel the need to make any derogatory comments about you.
Islam will dominate the world
Once a child is born to Muslim parents, he is taught one thing - ISLAM WILL DOMINATE THE WORLD. Today you see this slogan being paraded in various non Muslim countries around the world. What the Muslims differ over is over the manner in which Islam is to be spread over the world. Some Muslims think the Qur'anic Path of Jihad is the correct method, the rest think Al Taqqiya is the best method. But both groups agree on the same thing - Islam should dominate the world. The second thing that Muslims are taught from childhood is that the Qu'ran and Shariah are what is good for humanity and the rest of the religions of the world and democratic systems are inferior. Most people of the world lack critical thinking and do not take the effort to examine these statements. When the Shariah means that women and minorities (dhimmis) get second class status, that polygamy is allowed, stoning to death and chopping of limbs is the Shariah compliant method of doling out punishment, women are to wear the hijab and walking on the street only after prior permission and in the presence of a male relative - this is okay to them since Islamic pride scores over giving up of one's personal dressing and moving freedom. Women being raped are the most unfortunate. I think animals (pets) in the West are treated better than women under Muslim rule.
Brothers tell this to the average Syrian, 70% of whom want to migrate given a chance to do so to the West. Even Saudi women are sick and tired of the chains tied to their feet. They have begun attacking the Muttawil (Religious police). Remember Saudi, Syria, Sudan and Somalia are either dictatorships or Police states. What is Pakistan (formerly India)? It is a military state.
Is human thinking WISER than Creators'?
"Anonymous" @ 17 June 2010 - 9:44pm.
Thank you for your wonderful heading / captioning: ISLAM WILL DOMINATE THE WORLD. There is no-doubt, and it will happen without fail.
Hindutva policy is going "down drain", as Hindutva / Sangh Parivar has ABUSED Hindu Religious Beliefs / Teachings to suit "high-caste" minority survival.
I wrote earlier, as you are AS-USUAL "IGNORANT of FACTS". The 70% Syrians you are speaking about migrating to west, are ACTUALLY DISPLACED PALESTINIANS, who want to escape from RACIAL DISCRIMINATION FORCIBLY IMPOSED by OCCUPYING FORCE.
Do you know PALESTINIANS carry either JORDANIAN, SYRIAN, LEBANESE, or EGYPTIAN Passport - as they DO NOT prefer CARRYING "occupier-issued" Passport(s).
Now, let's get back to our own turf "India". Mahaan Bharat ! Kalyug Bharat ! Shining India !
We are speaking of RACIAL / CASTE / SOCIAL / RELIGIOUS discrimination inside India, which is in practice by HIGH-CASTES against LOW-CASTES for thousands of years. Those converted, including MUSLIMS and CHRISTIANS in India are grateful to HIGH-CASTES; and they escaped from THOUSAND-YEAR bondage.
Stop your JHOOTA-PRACHAAR (RUMOUR-MONGERING) that Muslims KILLED Non-Muslims !!!
You are CHANGING your preaching(s) / practices BECAUSE they were WRONG from the beginning.
Christians are changing to suit their whims / wishes, as their scripture is also CORRUPTED. Original Testament, First Testament, Second Testament, Third Testament, Bible written by Mark, John, Lucas, Tom, Dick, Harry, Larry, Gauri, Hari........
Do you think you are WISER than your Maker and His Wisdom ???
Pick any BOOK from the FACE of this EARTH, and prove it can be LEARNT BY-HEART - verbatim, except Quran ? That's the MIRACLE of QURAN. It is not written by TOM, DICK or HARRY. It is authored by the Maker.
If you can show any such book that can be learned by-heart VERBATIM, I will show you APPLES growing on LEMON-TREES !!!
Thank you.
An Indian
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I think anonymous baabu is
I think anonymous baabu is in complete agreement with the Manusmriti's position on Shudras and Women.
http://indianhomemaker.wordpress.com/2009/01/23/some-gems-from-manusmriti/
Bark bark bark.This is what u can do.
JAMAATE ISLAMI- THE ISLAMIC CHANGE.
The changes in Jamaate Islami are not the changes in the basics, but it is allowed changes in a changing environment.Raising voice for human rights, environmental activism, Pro-Dalit activism and other moves for the protection of Indian democracy, secularism and culture of tolerance are Islamic activism itself.Justice, peace and democracy are really Islamic values.
JAMAAT:ISLAM AND MULTICULTURALISM
Jamaate Islami taught Indian Muslims how to be a religious, social,political organization in a multicultural society without compromising Islamic values.
Bekaar baaten chhoro.
Time to discard all that is "discordant". Uthaa kar phaink do baahar gali mein., VIVAAD kay anday hain gandey. I dream when young muslims just talk / discuss about Math., Physics., Chemistry., Political Science., Language (French / Chinese). Yeh hai kaam ki baat.
Islam and Islamism
In Western books and media, the words Islamism and Islamist refer to religio-political ideology which seeks political power and supremacy, e.g. establisment of sharia laws or revival of the Caliphate. Islam on the other hand is a religion. Islamism is to Islam what Hindutva is to Hinduism or Zionism is to Judaism. The implication usually is that religions are good whereas religio-political ideologies are bad.
Maulana Maududi and Sayeed Qutb are the fathers of modern day Islamism. Osama bin Laden and Ayman Zawahiri are their children. On the other hand, Maulana Wahiduddin Khan and Maulana Waris Mazhari teach true Islam.
Mr. Ghulaam Check your facts
Mr. Ghulaam
Check your facts before u lament noted scholers of Islam. I pity ur knowledge on Islam and ur comparison. U like people are curse of Muslims...if you dont agree with me then u r in hell or kafir...or at least a terrorist...stop this kinda attitude.
By the way world knows well who born to whom.....
Mr.Ghulam ..you need to learn 'To agree to Disagree'.
Finally its not a nice idea to see everything through the 'WESTERN GLASS'...man grow up.
With prayer...
Sameer
Reply to Mr.Mohammed Sameer
I expressed my views. They are also the views of many progressive Muslims. You of course have a perfect right to have different views.
Dear Mr.
Dear Mr. Ghulam...Salam.....
Its not the case of expressing views but the attitude of some Muslims towards their fellow muslims. U simply call Maudoodi like great scholars father of Osamaas, even FBI did not think that way, simply because u don’t agree with his views. That's ridicules and uncivilized way of disagreeing. If this is the way we Muslims deals each other...then I am afraid except bigger punishment from almighty ALLAH.
With Prayers
Sameer
Why call upon Allah
Why call upon Allah to give Ghulam sahab punishment, when your mujahideen decide to take the matters into their own hands? Isn't that what you meant Mr. Sameer? It sends a chill down my spine when muslims use the word punishment. We the informed know what that means. It means death. Thankfully Mr. Ghulam can safely speak his mind without madmen coming to his home bearing an axe in hand to hack him and his family to death.
Islam will dominate the world
Have you heard of this statement Mr. Sameer? If this is not political, then what is it? Wake up to the coffee.
Islam will dominate
Islam will dominate Inshaallah.SUCH A DOMINATION HAD HAPPENED IN THE PAST ALSO.IN THAT DOMINANCE, JEWS,CHRISTIANS,athiests, non-religious people,whites,blacks,scientists,artists,philosophers...all were happy.PLEASE READ THE HISTORY.PRAY FOR SUCH A DOMINANCE Of Islam in which there will not be any genocides like Gujarat.No Dalits will be killed just because they are not born for Brahmin or Baniya.In such a dominance , Brahmins also will have all rights.But torturing lower-caste people will not be allowed.Anonymous Babu,in such a dominance, groups like RSS will not be allowed to kill poor Hindus and take political mileage out of it as happened in Godhra.THE DOMINANCE OF ISLAM WILL NOT BE A POLITICAL ONE, BUT IT WILL BE A CULTURAL ONE.IT WILL BE DOMINANCE OF GOODNESS.
Islam perpetrated the biggest genocide
Islam perpetrated the biggest genocide. The only place name ON EARTH THAT IS A REMINDER NOT OF THE VICTORY OF THE WINNERS BUT RATHER THE SLAUGHTER OF THE LOSERS, CONCERNS A GENOCIDE OF HINDUS BY THE MOSLEMS in the area of HINDUKUSH. The Afgan historian "Khondamir" records that during one of the many repeated invasions by MUSLIMS on the city of Herat in western Afganistan, 1,500,000 HINDUS were killed.
Which culture and which goodness?
Culture followed by Saudi Arabia? Stoning to death? Women being asked to identify who is the man walking with them on the street? Or is it chopping of hands?
Why do 70% of Syrians want to escape Syria and migrate to the West? The reason is they are normal people who do not want to live in hell on earth created by Shariah.
Which Goodness are you talking about?
Bride stealing in Pakistan? Kidnapping of non Muslim girls? Or making women forcefully wear hijab in 45 C?
Or Acid throwing on women because their hijab slipped?
Hello Mr. Religious. OPEN YOUR EYES and take a look at what is happening in the world in the name of Islam.
Culture and Saudi Arabia??
These guys must be smoking some other air!
Culture and Saudi Arabia -- gibve me a hoot! music is banned there, theater, movies...no wonder they become terrorists..
They neither read (joking) or write books - A recent UN report in fact talked about the cultural deficit among Arabs -- the number of titles published in Arabic language (including translation) was only 400 in 2005 the last year when stats is available. Compare that to any Indian languages!
Now, talking about publishing, just look at India. In each of your language, count how many Muslim authors are there?? I bet they can be hand counted while contributors from otehr minority sects far outweigh Muslims.
what is the reason? Are they born less creative or are they made like that by early religious study, controlled environment etc..
Discover and enjoy the Islamic culture, your birth right
Reply to Anon bros; Islam spreads a culture, which anybody can accept and practice irrespective of nationality and geography.That is how it unites the mankind across the globe.Nevertheless the cultural pattern varies from Morroco to Malaysia due to the ways Islamic teachings are interpreted and understood, the global Islamic communities are united by many commonalities.NO OTHER IDEOLOGY CAN CLAIM THIS UNIQUENESS.We Indians are one of the societies, which has received countless benefits from the Islamic culture,by which India is known and identified even now.
Mr.Anonymous claims that Muslims perpetrated genocide in Afghanistan against Hindus.This is a highly invalid claim as the religion Hindu/Hindutva was not existing that time.The word Hindu does not represent a particular religion/faith.In fact,the word Hindu was linked to the Brahmanical religion in order to cover up the ugly face of it and to make a smoke screen of majority in Independent India.As I understand, Budhism was the majority religion in Afghanistan before the advent of Islam.Budhists were persecuted and oppressed by the Brahmanical religion, eventually majority of Budhists embraced Islam as a way of salvation.By this time, majority of Budhists were wiped out and their places of worship occupied by the Brahmanical forces in India.So Brahmanical religion should be held responsible for the Genocide against Budhists.
Mr.Anonymous Babu must understand why the crime rate are very less in nations,where Islamic shariah is adopted, when compared to that of India or other western nations.In fact, Shariah is meant to protect the Islamic society from all evil tendencies and not to persecute or punish innocent people.If anybody misuses it,Allah's wrath is awaiting him.
As far as Hijab is concerned, it is a dress code/system stipulated by Allah almighty in order to protect the dignity and chastity of woman.FYI,dress code is stipulated not only for woman, but for man as well.In the western world,women are being taught to be sexy and more sexy.Jeodo-Christian Hollywood and Brahmanical Bollywood are invariably exploiting the womenhood.Why do not you critisize them? Is hypocrisy the hallmark of your society?
So anonymous baabu,this
So anonymous baabu,this implies that laws in manusmriti and the Indian culture(bride burning,dowry,sati,etc.) are perfect,aren't they?
Go sir,please read Manusmriti and laugh at yourself.
'70% of Syrians want to escape Syria'
-Searched the net and couldn't find any reference.
'Kidnapping of non Muslim girls'-fault of muslims and not ISLAM.
'Acid throwing on women because their hijab slipped? '-Islam didn't allow this.If some muslims do it then they have punishment awaiting them from GOD.
'Stoning to death? Women being asked to identify who is the man walking with them on the street?'
-atleast they are not forced to do NANGA_NAATCH as in your brahmin dominated BOLLYWOOD.Have you forgotten devdaasi culture?
Hindus accept their imperfections and are..........
Hindus accept their imperfections and are willing to change. SATI, Dowry, castism etc etc are IMPERFECTIONS of HINDUISM which is - slowly but surely changing. Most HINDUS have never ever read MANUSMRITI. But MUSLIMS insist what is written in 7th Century scripture- QUR'AN to be the ultimate which can NOT be changed. Even in 21st Century SAUDIS carry out "stoning to death" and "cutting off" hand.
The resistance of MUSLIMS to change with time has been the biggest bane of ISLAM making them backward- a religion which ruled the world has reached a stage of being bullied by everyone- even ISRAEL kicks the collective ARAB MUSLIM BUTT. All their time and effort are wasted on "mugging up" QUR'AN and seeking FATWAS while the rest of the world is rapidly progressing leaving the MUSLIMS behind. So wake up Muslims and commence educating yourself.
Ignorance makes you say wrong things
Reply to Mr.Anon;I would like to tell you that when you make suggestions, you must have knowledge about all aspects of that. Let me hear from you on what basis/standard/yardstick Muslims should change themselves.Change with time is a good thing but changes should come from the right authority, I mean from our creator and his messengers.Islam is complete and still stays as a catalyst everywhere.For example;Islamic banking system is being studied and implemented in Europe and USA as a foolproof financial system.Islam brought changes wherever it could go.Islam caused empowering of oppressed sections(lower caste and down trodden)in India.Islam caused research work in sceince and technology.Women were not allowed to wear proper dress in India before the advent of Islam.If you study the history thoroughly, you will find Islam as a motive force behind all good changes happened across the globe.
Ofcourse, Muslims including me are lazy nowadays, they do not work hard(ahsanu amalan)as they did previously in all fields.So we are supposed to get some kicks on our face.I accept that.As far as Israel is concerned, that is not a normal state but a WAR MACHINE invented/assembled by UK, France,Germany,Poland,Russia and USA(as Helen Thomas said at White House).These countries will eventually dismantle this machine or few scud missiles of Hizbullah can do way this cancer in ME.
Your answers are unimpressive
Instead of accepting that it is Shariah which allows for stoning to death and the subjugation of women, you say it is unislamic. The internet has english translations of the Qu'ran available. It is perfectly Islamic.
NANGA NAATCH in Brahmin dominated Bollywood? I didn't know all the Khans were Brahmins.
Atleast you accept that women should be kept in check. Can't blame you. You were taught that by the society you grew in. Women will always be inferior for you.
Oh come on Anony bhaiyya,I
Oh come on Anony bhaiyya,I don't post comments to impress you.
While its true that You REQUEST me to post comments and I oblige,but not to impress you.
The Syrians are expelled Palestinians
"Anonymous" Liar @ 17 June 2010 - 9:38pm.
The 70% Syrians you are speaking about are ORIGINALLY PALESTINIANS, who have been EXPELLED from their ANCESTRAL LAND. Majority of Syrian Passport-Holders, Jordanian Passport-Holders, and Lebanese Passport-Holders are ORIGINALLY PALESTINIANS. They have been FORCED to CARRY neighbouring country's PASSPORT, as I have yet to see a "VALID" PALESTINIAN. I salute these people, for BOLDLY rejecting occupier's nationality.
If you don't know - just shut up; and STOP spreading LIES - jhootay, makkaar !!!
An Indian
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I have taken an OATH to make you SHUT-UP, until you SPEAK (I mean write) TRUTH on TCN Platform.
Bollywood Culture "Anonymous" Baabu
We are speaking about "Bollywood" Culture - "Anonymous" LIAR.
Don't you know, we have:
a) Shahrukh Khan, who married Gauri - whose wife later became Khan
b) Aamir Khan, who married Reena Dutta. He left her, and is now married to Kiran Rao
c) Salim Khan, who married Helen (Sushila Charak) and has produced three KHANS
d) Salman Khan is still a "bachelor baabu"
e) Arbaaz Khan, who married Malaika Arora Khan
f) Sohail Khan, who is married to Seema Sachdev
g) Mohammed Azharuddin, who is married to Sangeeta Bijlani
Of-course there is a SHINING example of
Farah Naaz married to Vindu Dara Singh
In your comment of 17 June 2010 - 9:38pm. YOU are JUST SPEAKING about cultures / customs ! Above are SHINING and LIVING EXAMPLES !!!
Do you want some more SHINING examples from our CENTURIES OLD Indian Culture ? There is NO NEED for crossing our borders for EXAMPLE(s) !!! We have many in our OWN BACKYARD(s) !!!
An Indian
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Oops don't you know Dodi Fayed and Princess Diana AFFAIR - who met with a FATAL ACCIDENT a'la Franco-English CONSPIRACY ??? DON'T YOU KNOW, they were going in a bullet-proof MERCEDES-BENZ, and were killed - even though they were passengers sitting on back-seats ??? DO YOU KNOW Princess Diana was pregnant and was give an off-spring, who could / would have become a Muslim Heir to English Throne ???
DON'T YOU KNOW Nicolas Sarkozi (French President) who is having an AFFAIR with Karla Bruni (the famous ex-TOPLESS model) ???
Mr. Anony... First
Mr. Anony...
First thing....Who care for slogans now a days.....this kinda slogans are useless. Muslims has to stand for justice ,peace and last but not least prosperity to all sections of the mass, specially the oppressed and marginalized classes in our nation and world in general. I know this requires real commitment and hard work from its followers. If u stand with peoples cause sure people will stand with u. India needs a party which has people friendly approach. JI can definitely do that coz Islamic values drives JI. And we know what Islam can contribute to this world if we follow it the right way.
With Prayers
Sameer
Ghulam, led by the hate-culture of modernism
Sameer, What you said is very correct.People like Ghulam are controlled by modernism which is a culture of hatred.They brand all people with whome they disagree as terrorists.
Actually people like Bin Laden are product of shallow modernist culture.They have no relation with any school of Islamic thought.
Maududi, Qutb and Bin Laden
Haneef says, "Actually people like Bin Laden are product of shallow modernist culture.They have no relation with any school of Islamic thought."
Maududi and Qutb too are the results of or reactions to modernist trends especially Communist hegemony and American materialism respectively. In my view, Islam is more consistent with better modernist trends e.g. liberalism, poly-cuturalism, tolerance and scientific thinking.
Ghulam, your malice and
Ghulam,
your malice and hatred towards Islamic scholars is evident when you associate them with Bin Laden.Still I may respond.
You pls read Islamic History.In the election of first Caliphs, you can see earliest form democracy.It is not a modern value.You then read about the golden era of Islamic civilization.You will understand that ,religious harmony, multiculturalism and tolerance are Islamic, not modern.The starting point of scientific thinking is also Islamic era.
What modernism brought?.Chauvinistic nationalism,Communalism, materialism,racism,anti-religious,valueless,western secularism,Demoralized politics....Islamic scholars like Maududi criticized this valueless civilization.His soul may not expect appreciation of modernists like you.But the survival of Islamic values are through such scholars.Allah may reward him.
The hollow words
ASAK,
I cringe whenever I hear the words like Islamist, Islamism, Jihadism etc.
Let's take Islamist. A cyclist is one who rides a bicycle. A physicist is one who studies physics. A motorist is one who drives a motor vehicle. By analogy, then anyone who practices Islam, is an Islamist. But we already have a word for that- Muslim. Islamist, to me, is a disparaging word for Muslims.
In any democratic nation,
In any democratic nation, the main form of social activism is political activism which include electoral politics.withdrawing from active politics make an organiation away from people, which produce a feeling of mystery.if JiH Needs to become a party with recognion among people, so that it can become more transparent, it should come to the field of electoral politics.it should not make a muslim-only party.IT should form a all people-party with broad islamic ideals.organisations with religious agenda only are carrying a darkness of opacity around them.People , especially non-Muslims have fears and doubts about such groups.JIH should be ready to accept indian style of democracy and secularism with broad mind.
what is Islamism?
The book name "Islamism and Democracy in India" reflects that Author of the book Mr. Irfan Ahmad doesn't know Islam or might be he is acting like non-Muslims, Because Islam is a complete religion and it is not "ism" like other false religion, the book name simply should be "Islam and Democracy in India' ....
The Jamaat Today
It is good to know that the Jamaat is not static and has shed some of its most retrograde teachings. However an organization which is one step behind its followers is not very useful in these fast moving times.
What a wonderful work from
What a wonderful work from Dr.Irfan. Jamaat inspite of being getting increasing accomodative with each passing day is unable to attract huge masses to it. However, the situation is changing especially in Southern India where throngs of people are following Jamaat. What Jamaat needs now is charishmatic relationship and support from political leaders as well as the accomodating class of Non-Muslims. Jamaat seems not only the future of Islamic Movement in India but a liberator of Muslim community in India.
WELL WRITTEN; WELL SAID
ONCE UPON A TIME, NOT LONG AGO, JIH WAS A CENT PER CENT ORGANISATION BY, OF & FOR MUSLIMS WHAT IT IS TODAY, ONE CAN KNOW IF ONE READS IF NOT THE BOOK AT LEAST THE REVIEW BY TCN. READERS WILL ALSO KNOW WHETHER THE CHANGE IS FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE.
PARDON ME FOR SAYING SO, MAULANA MAUDUDI SAHEB MUST BE TURNING IN HIS GRAVE IF INFORMATION REACHES HIM ABOUT THE CHANGES HIS SUCCESSORS-IN-OFFICE HAVE MADE IN THE CONSTITUTION AND IDEOLOGIES OF HIS BELOVED ORGANISATION.
S.M.PASHA
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