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Figures are NOT in any HISTORY BOOK

"Anonymous" Baabu @ 11 June 2010 - 10:17pm.

Whichever method of calculation you try to deduce OR try to justify, using your JUMBLED LOGIC or FALSE CONTENTION - it's TOTALLY unacceptable EITHER to ME or to READERS on TCN Platform.

NO such WISHFUL figure(s) of your contention (false prachaar) EXISTS in ANY AUTHENTIC HISTORY BOOK.

If such figures (Millions, Billions, Trillions) are in your WISHFUL MEMORY or is preached @ Hindutva discourses (I mean blabbering) which are UNDOCUMENTED, UNRECORDED, or UNVERIFIABLE - please feel happy to keep those WISHFUL FIGURES to YOURSELF.

Lastly, before I conclude - my son was asked by his teacher to bring an item which they LOVE most. They brought to class and were asked to eat or take back (if it was FRUIT or TOY). The next day, the same class-teacher asked to bring a FRESH-FRUIT, the student HATED MOST. Everyone brought a different FRESH-FRUIT to class. But this time, the class-teacher asked each student to keep THAT FRUIT with them ALWAYS (even while sleeping) for next THREE WEEKS. After a few days, each student complained to class-teacher about ROTTEN SMELL. The class-teacher told them, it is HATRED. The LONGER you KEEP, the MORE BAD it SMELLS.

Good Luck to you and your hatred. Be happy and keep dreaming.

Thank you.

An Indian

P.S.:
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Earlier, I posted my comment giving an example of an Elephant and a mad-dog. My apologies, if it hurt your feelings. Don't take it personally. But I definitely love to read your comment(s) - RIGHT or WRONG, JUSTIFIED or UNJUSTIFIED, LOGICAL or ILLOGICAL, HISTORICAL or MYTHOLOGICAL, FACT or FICTION. But, I'm happy that you do visit this web-site, and maybe you learn alot. But, please refrain from spreading HATRED and FALSE-PRACHAAR. NO-DOUBT wrong comment(s) will meet with STIFF RESISTANCE.

Here is more history for you

In December 1398 AD, Timur Lane ordered the execution of at least 50,000 HINDUS before the battle for Delhi, .. and after the battle those HINDUS not killed were removed (as slaves), while some historians give number of HINDUS butchered by Timur Lane's army as about 100,000. Encyclopedia Britannica mentions that the (secular?) Mughal emperor Akbar 'ordered the massacre of about 30,000 (captured) Rajput Hindus on February 24, 1568 AD, after the battle for Chitod'. This massacre of 30,000 Hindu peasants at Chitod is recorded by Abul Fazl, Akbar's court historian himself.(More than 5 times that consisting of women and children committed SATI to prevent being captured by MUSLIMS) These two 'one day' massacres are sufficient to provide a reference point for estimating the scale of Hindu genocide. The Afgan historian Khondamir records that during one of the many repeated invasions by MUSLIMS on the city of Herat in western Afganistan, 1,500,000 Hindus were killed.

ONE OF THE ONLY PLACE NAMES ON EARTH THAT IS A REMINDER NOT OF THE VICTORY OF THE WINNERS BUT RATHER THE SLAUGHTER OF THE LOSERS- HINDUS, CONCERNS A GENOCIDE OF HINDUS BY THE MOSLEMS and that area is known even to date as HINDU KUSH - HINDU KILLER.

Hello "Anonymous" LIAR - which history?

Hello "Anonymous" LIAR @ 17 June 2010 - 9:57pm.

Whose HISTORY are you speaking about ?

There is NO-ONE by the name you mentioned - Lane ?

I believe, in your HATE - Oops I mean haste to post your comment, by Lane - you mean Lame !

I read correct history, NOT from Encyclopedia - BUT from authentic HISTORY BOOKS by famous authors. There is a mention about Timur Lame - as he was handicap ruler.

If handicap RULERS could RULE over India with JUSTICE, and 2% white-threaded minority HAVE BEEN practicing un-touchability, injustice, racism for THOUSANDS of YEARS for THEIR own SURVIVAL, and CONTINUING in Independent India, this NEEDS to be TAKEN SERIOUSLY.

I believe this is NOT JUST Muslim issue, it is an ISSUE that needs to be tackled by all Justice-Seeking Indians.

An Indian

Namaste Anonymous

Namaste Anonymous Baabu,
Here is some history for you too:
http://rupeenews.com/moins-articles/rebuttal-to-sudha-ramachandran-perse...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_Kush (Shows that Hindu Kush meaning Slaughter may be just a myth that has been promulgated by the Hindu right to suit their political purposes)
http://www.sikhspectrum.com/022008/buddhism.htm
http://mingkok.buddhistdoor.com/en/news/d/2619.

Asoka Asoka Asoka Asoka hmmm..
What religion did Asoka follow when he committed genocide before converting to buddhism?I think u know the answer.He must have realised that Buddhism was much more peaceful.

May be the hindu slaughter by Muslims were a god sent punishment for the atrocities against Buddhism when brahmanism held sway in INDIA.
Law of Karma at work.

Which hitory books have you read???

Here are details of AKBARS HINDU massacre.

1-- 1560-61 Adam Khan and Pir Muhammad khan generals under AKBAR capture Malwa. All HINDU women and children commit SATI and men are slaughtered. AKBAR sacks the generals because they retain the loot without giving a share to AKBAR.
2-- 1562 Rajputs of Jaipur give a Princess in marriage to AKBAR and become vassals on Mughals whan Akbar marched on Jaipur.
3--1564 Asaf Khan general of AKBAR capture Gondwana- All HINDU women and children commit SATI and men are slaughtered.
4-- 1567-68 Chittor fort surrounded and captured after siege of 58 days. All HINDU women and children commit SATI and men are slaughtered. But King Udai Sigh escape to hills.
5-- 1569 Rathmbore captured by Akbar, many Hindus killed but king surrenders and accept vassal status.
6-- 1572. AKBAR capture GUJARAT. All Muslims in the service of Sultan Mussaffar shah III are spared but HINDU soldiers killed.
7-- 1576 Battle of Haldigati- more HINDUS killed.
8--1585 Kashmir attacked - more Hindus killed.
9-- 1592 Orissa captured- ""
10-- 1593 Khurda captured """
11-- 1595 Pujab, Attock etc attacked
11-- 1600- Khandesh, Ahamednagar, Deccan attacked.
1605 AKBAR dies.

While moving across India in all these attacks many Hindus inhabitants were killed by the MUSLIM ARMY of AKBAR although many of the adversary Kings were Muslims. Akbar abolished JAZIA which was re-impossed by AURANGI.

Hindutva / Sangh Parivar's DISTORTED history

As I read, and readers on TCN platform will not hesitate to endorse - Emperor Akbar's rule of all Mughal Rulers is termed "GOLDEN RULE" in Indian History.

I have not read any AUTHENTIC Indian History Book, which endorses your views. Maybe, it is Hindutva / Sangh Parivar's DISTORTED History, ONLY to lure it's BLIND followers, and to justify their ILLEGAL acts in Independent India.

That's one reason, why Mahatma Gandhi was killed by Hindutva follower - Nathuram Godse after "several failed attempts" at eliminating undisputed Father of Nation - Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi.

That's the very reason, why they launched Rath-Yathra and demolished a RELIGIOUS / HISTORICAL structure, only to come to "Dilli Ki Gaddi" but UTTERLY FAILED to fulfill their promise.

That's the very reason, why they did not hesitate to TORCH-ALIVE "Kaar-Sevaks", after ABUSING their service(s). It has been established WITHOUT DOUBT kerosene was poured in "Sabarmati Express" from INSIDE. It has been established WITHOUT DOUBT that Bogie S-6 was locked from INSIDE - as there is NO MECHANISH to lock any Indian Railway Bogie from OUTSIDE.

Wake-up from your Kumbarakan Slumber - else your generations may curse you for your "deeds" / "misdeeds". Thank you.

An Indian

History of VICTOR and and VANQUISHED will be different

History as told by the victor and and vanquished has never been same. If in doubt read the history of 1971 Bangladesh war as told by India and Pakistan. OR better, just talk to two drivers involved in car accidents just 30 minutes after it has occurred.

-- Both the drivers will give different version of the accident insisting that he was driving as per rules and the other driver caused the accident due to rash driving.
-- Any pedestrian who has seen it will give a third version.
-- The Police FIR could have a fourth version.

So "history of a car accident" already has FOUR version in just 30 minutes. So wars which lead to massacre of millions can NOT have just one version.

Inherent INTEREST and NO interest in OUTCOME

Concerning your statement OR example about "history of a car accident" and statements of two drivers AND possibly witnesses.

First:
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Two or four persons giving statement MAYBE in a CONFUSED STATE, when questioned within half-hour, one-hour, or even after a couple of days.

Second:
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The persons giving statement, have AN INTEREST in the OUTCOME of CAR ACCIDENT - so there is possible manipulation OR genuine confusion - hence DIFFERENT statements.

History of rulers, wars, killings, etc. is written by INDEPENDENT HISTORIANS or OBSERVERS, "years / decades" after the conflict / rule / legacy. And, HISTORIANS have NO LINK nor INTEREST in the CONFLICT, HISTORY, WAR, RULE, LEGACY nor in it's OUTCOME / RESULT. History is a DOCUMENTED / VERIFIABLE fact.

So, your ANALOGY or EXAMPLE is INAPPLICABLE / TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE / OUT OF CONTEXT. It is like comparing APPLES to LEMON. Please refer to my comment caption.

You are AGAIN DIVERTING from subject and going to Bangladesh (India / Pakistan) conflict.

That's why, I usually end my comment addressing you: Avoid SUCKING your foot-thumb while commenting. By your comment(s) you proved, you are NOT ONLY "naive", but also STUPID. Good Luck.

An Indian

Common sense is not so common

Indo- Pak War of 1971 has been mentioned for understanding the way HISTORY is WRITTEN by VICTOR and VANQUISHED. where does it divert from the subject?? Reading the HISTORY of Indo-Pak war of 1971, at written by INDIA and PAK, would make it amply clear to anyone how the same incident is interpreted differently by the "adversary to the conflict". Indo-Pak war of 1971 was mentioned because it happened about 40 years back. How ever if it pleases you, change it to Sino-Indian war of 1962. Read the HISTORY as written by CHINA and India to understand the difference in HISTORY as written by VICTOR -CHINA and VANQUISHED - INDIA.

In medieval times, HISTORIES of conflicts are mostly written by the VICTORS as the the VANQUISHED is generally annihilated. Common sense is not so common as evident from your comment.

Two RULES

A boss in a MULTI-NATIONAL FIRM gave two rules to his staff.

Rule No.1: The BOSS is ALWAYS RIGHT

Rule No.2: If you don't agree, refer to Rule No.1

Following above rules, "Anonymous" Baabu - please refer to my comment under heading: Figures are NOT in any HISTORY BOOK dated 12 June 2010 @ 4.33 am.

Thank you.

An Indian

The wo rules

The wo rules for MUSLIMS are

Rule No.1: The "QUR'AN" is ALWAYS RIGHT

Rule No.2: If you don't agree, refer to Rule No.1

Multinational firms just adapted it from ISLAM.

Everyone need to adapt TWO rules

For WORLD peace, everyone need to adopt TWO rules, not just Multinational Companies.

An Indian

I think the shakha system of

I think the shakha system of education must be implemented in all schools across India.Should it not be,Mr.Anony?In that way more kids can be indoctrinated with hatred against the 'others' so as to hasten the establishment of 'ARYAVART'.Great.
But one thing s certain,even if it gets established,it will be known as a hindu rashtra formed on lies,deceit,hatred for other human beings.

MADRASSA SYSTEM would be better

MADRASSA SYSTEM would be better because then MUSLIMS will start killing Muslims like it is happening in Pak and India would be a better place to live in with less Muslims.

Answer is BLUNDER - Common Sense is GAFFE

“Anonymous” Baabu @ 10 June 2010 - 2:58pm, and @ 0 June 2010 - 5:42pm.

Your comment(s), under your posting of 2.58 is a BIGGEST BLUNDER, I ever came across. Even a 5th Grader knows better math and better history.

In your “sheer” RAGE to prove yourself correct, you wrote ONE BILLION, conveniently MULTIPLYING your earlier figure by TEN. Since you DON'T even KNOW the DIFFERENCE between METRIC System of Measurement, and U.S. System of Measurement - I'm @ loss HOW to EXPLAIN or CLARIFY your DOUBT(s)!!! Here is a fine web-link to know how many ZEROS are there in a BILLION:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1000000000_(number)

http://www.answers.com/topic/billion

Anyhow, F.Y.I. and for some readers on TCN platform, a CRORE has 100 lakhs, and a BILLION has 1,000 Million. Since you are IGNORANT to know the difference between CRORE, MILLION, and BILLION - I should not be RESPONDING your B... S... But, since you are trying to MUDDY clear waters, I have to clarify to readers.

"Anonymous" Baabu - your comment is like the 5th Grader, who wrote at end of Hindi Language Answer Sheet:

MAARKOON KII CHAABI AAPKEY HAATH MEIN HAIN

AGAR PAAS KAR DIYE TOO KYA BAATH HAIN !!!

To which the examiner OR evaluator wrote on answer-sheet:

KITABOON KII CHAABI AAPKEY HAATH MEIN THI

AGAR PADH KAR PARIKSHA DIYE TOO KYA BAATH THI !!!

“Anonymous” Baabu, go-back to school, re-learn math well, and don't be ashamed to sit with a 5th grader. But, this time not at Ekal Vidyalaya OR Sangh Parivaar managed school, but a better school – where you can learn math, the Komti / Bania and maybe better, but proper math.

It is like, I am playing FLUTE for a BUFFALO – which does not know how to dance NOR does understand OR enjoy the tune.

Poor MATH is probably one of the reason, why there are mid-air crashes, and passenger aircraft disasters in India.

http://www.askcaptainlim.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&i...

Read above, whose GAFFE was it to loose 349 precious lives, including majority Indians. I'm sure most readers on TCN platform know the recent air-crash at Mangalore airport in Karnataka and loss of innocent lives. If not, read this:

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-447350

Regarding, ALL YOUR other B… S… babbling(s), I don’t even need to respond, as your BBB i.e. Basic Building Blocks are BLUNDERS of GIGANTIC SIZE.

Take time, take a “deep breathe”, and please go-back to drawing-board – redraw your sketches, give some finishing touches to your HISTORY. Good luck in promptly attending your Continuing Education Classes - but this time sit in FRONT BENCH, unlike at LAST BENCHES, where NOTORIOUS students are identified.

Thank you.

An Indian

US arithmitic for you

US arithmetic for you
Thousand 1,000
Million 1,000,000
Billion 1,000,000,000
Trillion 1,000,000,000,000

Three ZEROS increasing at every stage. Happy

India, Pak, Bangladesh, Part of Afghanistan, Iran and Central Asian republics had HINDU population and it would be about HALF a BILLION (500,000,000) or 500 Million or 50 Core and in a period of 200 years 7-8 generations would pass as in olden times people married young and produced children when they were 16-17 years. So in 200 years of Mughal rule 3.5 to 4 Billion people could have lived in India. So killing ONE BILLION HINDUS in 200 years is possible especially when AKBAR could cause the death of more than 200000 HINDU men, women and children in just two days at CHITOD.

If still in doubt calculate the number of people born in a family in 200 years if the first couple married at 17 years and their progeny also married at 17 years itself and at each generation produced 10 children each. Assume also 40% death of the above at infancy itself due to natural cause.

Common sense again

"Dim wit" like you think in terms of MUSLIM waking up every day morning and killing precisely 274 HINDUS. But if like what Akbar did while capturing CHITOD (RAJASTAN) when 35, 000 HINDUS were killed in TWO days and four times that, WOMEN and CHILDREN committed SUICIDE (SATI) so that they are not captured and converted to ISLAM the total death comes to 35,000+ (4x35000) = 175000 HINDUS killed in TWO days. To meet the target of 274 Hindu kill per day AKBAR did not have to kill for the next 638 days OR about ONE YEAR and 10 MONTHS.

Cann't blame you for your inability to grasp facts and is the precise reason why reservation is being demanded by you

Wishful common sense and Wilful mischief

An Elephant is RARELY EVER "bothered" by barking of a mad-dog, hayena, or cunning-fox.

TCN readers are aware, there are some stray-dogs roaming the streets, carrying rabies virus. The persons passing-by those stray mad-dogs, need to be protective, and exercise caution.

That's my only caution / advise to readers on TCN platform - kindly ignore FALSE PRACHAAR of SANGH PARIVAAR.

An Indian

Kasab cartoon reminds of...

Cartoon by Yusuf reminds me of an article, published earlier on another platform. For interested readers, here it is - especially scene THREE, FOUR, and concluding scene FIVE are interesting reading.

http://www.countercurrents.org/sagar040909.htm

Enjoy reading, and recall Naradh Muni - the famous mythological MONK, depicted in Hindu Religious Scriptures, who is an expert in TONGUE-TWISTING, and is capable of making Bhagwaan(s) fight among one-another.

An Indian

Here is the answer

Wasn't Mahmud of Ghazni a Mohammedian? Or was he Buddhist? Does it change the fact that he was the first Muslim Invader to attack India? Prove me wrong here, and I will change the period of Islamic invasion back to 400 years (the figure of Mughal rule in India).

You say my history is poor (I'm not a historian. Anyway the Mughals and the bloodthirsty Muslim invaders belong to the religion of peace which makes them Islamists which you and I will both agree), then you say my math is poor (just because I expanded the period of Islamic invasions in India), but I am absolutely sure that you are intellectually challenged because of the bigot that you are (your denial in accepting the bloodbath your religion of peace barbarians indulge in).

Do you state that there have been zero attacks and zero killings in the name of Islam over 1400 years?

thereligionofpeace.com keeps a track of body counts arising out of deaths in the name of the religion of peace.

Why go to history when there are verifiable facts easily available to both of us? There have been over 15000 jihadi attacks in the name of Islam since 9/11 (the biggest jihadi attack).

If you truly read history you would have been disgusted with the blood thirst displayed by your 'brothers' (that's what you call them, right?).

TONGUE TWISTER

“Anonymous” Baabu commented first LYING, there were more than 100 Million killed during Mughal Rule. LOGICALLY, I disproved with NUMBERS / LOGIC. He LIKES my LOGIC – but having mastered in TONGUE-TWISTING, he turned back saying instead of Mughal Rule, he says MUSLIMS ruled over India for more than 1,000 years. Let me agree for AGREEMENT SAKE.

Now, even going by “Anonymous” Baabu’s TONGUE-TWISTING LOGIC – to kill or eliminate 100 Million Indians in 1,000 years, let's do the maths, following Bania or Komti-hisaab.

Divide 100,000,000 by 1,000 years i.e. 365,000 days, the answer is 273.97 OR rounded to nearest decimal 274

That means, instead of RULING – Muslims were MISRULING or were ONLY involved IN KILLING 274 PERSONS, EVERY SINGLE DAY. Clap. Clap. Clap. Ha Ha Ha !!!

Wake up “Anonymous” Baabu – before your own folks, friends, supporters START LAUGHING at your LOGIC.

Yes, it is possible 100 Million Indians CONVERTED WILLINGLY, to ESCAPE from CASTEISM, RACISM, SOCIAL-DIVIDE, INJUSTICE, ATROCITIES, etc. etc. etc.

Lastly, we need to question WHETHER 100 Million were CHICKEN, CATTLE, or 2-Leg HUMANS - only "Anonymous" Baabu's authored HISTORY BOOK, can tell the truth ?

An Indian

P.S.:
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Since I labeled the title of comment TONGUE-TWISTER, I will write a really funny one. There you go:

BETTY BOUGHT SOME BUTTER, BUT THE BUTTER WAS BITTER. SO BETTY BOUGHT SOME BETTER BUTTER TO MAKE BITTER BUTTER BETTER BUTTER.

Repeat TEN TIMES and, if you REPEAT without STUMBLING or MISTAKE and WITH SPEED, you are a WINNER.

Daily effort NOT essential

"Muslims were MISRULING or were ONLY involved IN KILLING 274 PERSONS, EVERY SINGLE DAY. Clap. Clap. Clap. Ha Ha Ha" !!!

"Dim wit" like you think in terms of MUSLIM waking up every day morning and killing precisely 274 HINDUS. But if like what Akbar did while capturing CHITOD (RAJASTAN) when 35,000 HINDUS were killed in TWO days and four times that WOMEN and CHILDREN committed SUICIDE (SATI) so that they are not captured and converted to ISLAM the total death comes to 35,000+ (4x35000) = 175000 HINDUS killed in TWO days. To meet the target of 274 Hindu kill per day AKBAR did not have to kill for the next 638 days (175000/274= 638.6)OR about ONE YEAR and 10 MONTHS.

Cann't blame you for your inability to grasp facts and is the precise reason why reservation is being demanded by you.

TWIST your tounge by all means - An Indian

Kill 30000 thousand in two days as what AKBAR did at Chittor and he did NOT need to kill for next 109 days to meet the target set by you - 274 kill per day. Not a very difficult task. The population of HINDUS were not restricted to the present geographic boundary of present day India but included present day Bangladesh, Pakistan, Afghanistan, even parts of IRAN and the Central Asian republics. But again the "mentally challenged state that you are in" is your handicap.

India from north to down south upto DECCAN had become an ISLAMIC Country by 1707- death of AURANGI. But the resurgence of HINDU power under MARATHAS and SIKHS resulted in large scale liquidation and migration of MUSLIMS from India between 1720 to 1840. IRANIS, TURANIS, and the AFGHANS Muslims ran back to their respective countries. The liquidation of MUSLIMS was completed by the BRITISH after 1857, when for 4-6 years BRITISH did nothing but exterminate MUSLIMS in Gangetic plain and Punjab, resulting in more exodus of MUSLIMS from India to Iran, Afghanistan and Central ASIA.

Total population between 110 to 130 Million

"Anonymous" Baabu @ 4 June 2010 - 6:01pm.

First, you say 100 Million killed during Mughal Rule. Then you went back from Mughal Rule to Muslim Rule, expanding from 300 to 1000 years (or more than 300% or three-fold increase). You expanded number of years, maintaining your 100 million figure. Did you fail in maths during your schooling? I'm sure no Komti or Bania will accept your calculation.

Do you know Jewish population, never reached beyond 13-million, although they are one of the oldest Abrahamic religious, which is continuously in existence for over 3000 (three thousand) years ? If you wish to take liberty of diverting towards Holocaust, I have MANY MANY MANY points (with authentic references) to DISPROVE, even the Holocaust figures !!!

If total population of India during Mughal Rule was between 110 to 130 Million, how can this figure multiply to become ONE billion, in a period of 200 or so years ? Please take time to find JUSTIFICATION or use your usual TONGUE-TWISTED LOGIC !!!

Authentic HISTORY says - the total population of India, when it was ruled by Mughals was as captioned. Here is a web-link, unless you DENY, "abusing" your usual practice of TONGUE TWISTING.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughal_Empire

Have you anything more, to JUSTIFY your usual TWISTED LOGIC - Naradh Muni-style ?

An Indian

Common sense dear sir

"total population of India during Mughal Rule was between 110 to 130 Million"

Basic my dear Indian Basic.

The Hindu inhabited India of Mughals included whole of present day India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, parts of Iran and Central Asian republics. So the population would have been much higher than 130 Million and would have been above HALF BILLION (500 Million).

Mughals ruled India from 1526 to 1707 till AURANGI and then the weakened Mughals ruled for for some more time. Assuming even a 180 years of Mughal rule, killing ONE BILLION is not an impossibility considering the fact that in those war torn times life expectancy would have been not more than 30 years and so in 180 years almost SIX generation would have lived in INDIA. Thus SIX X HALF BILLION = 3 Billion out of which ONE BILLION were killed. The ONE BILLION were killed over 180 years and not in ONE YEAR. Understood dim wit.

Ancient EGYPTIANS invented ZERO

"Anonymous" Baabu Sir - Common-sense ka prachaar karney waaley Sir @ 10 June 2010 - 2:58pm.

First try to know the value of ZERO, who invented it, and how you are ABUSING it by adding THREE MORE ZEROS to your ORIGINAL FIGURE of 100 Million to make it a BILLION - conveniently, ignorantly, and in "flagrant" VIOLATION of BASIC PRINCIPLES of MATHEMATICS.

Ha Ha Ha !!! Go back to school, and sit on FRONT BENCH this time. I thought Brahmins, Komtis, and Banias are CLEVER and good at mathematics. But you are not one among the 2%. Good Luck and Thank you for being NAIVE.

An Indian

Did Ashutosh Gowariker miss the historical fact?

"Anonymous" Baabu @ 4 June 2010 - 6:01 pm

Apart from reading authentic history books, I watched the movie "Jodha Akbar" produced and directed by Ashutosh Gowariker, especially with a view of finding any HISTORIC DISTORTIONS or BLUNDERS - but could not find any, except the usual BOLLYWOOD-MASALA additions i.e. love-scenes, songs, music, etc.

The producer / director of famous BOLLYWOOD MOVIE "Jodha Akbar" - which won several Indian and International Awards, seems to have missed "Anonymous" Baabu's highlighted facts. I believe, such DISTORTED HISTORY LIES are only taught at Ekal Vidayalas (NCERT prescribed textbooks) / Sangh Parivaar's private discourses - which are UNWRITTEN and UNDOCUMENTED.

Is it also possible, historians have "successfully" and COMPLETELY blacked-out the HISTORICAL facts (highlighted by Anonymous) from all AUTHENTIC history-books ?

Anonymous Baabu - did you miss reading an article published on TCN with authentic reference(s) from history books, written by Editor-in-Chief of TCN - Mr. Kashif-ul-Huda? Here is the web-link, if you missed

http://www.twocircles.net/2010mar01/babur_and_sons_babur.html

Good luck, sweet hallucination with expert display of TONGUE-TWISTING mastery. Really, I like reading your EXPERT comment(s) - whether LOGICAL or ILLOGICAL, CORRECT or INCORRECT, RELEVANT or UNRELATED, VERIFIABLE or UNVERIFIABLE, ON-COURSE or OBSCURING, INTELLIGENT or NAIVE.

An Indian

I like your logic

Finally I meet someone who answers my questions logically. Your math is absolutely perfect. But the Muslim invasion began in 1000 AD starting with Mahmud of Ghazni.
So your 400 years of Mughal rule don't hold water. Mahmud was a Muslim invader.

Here are the Answers

1) 100 million hindus -
The Islamic Invasion (1000 A.D. starting with Mahmud Ghazni -1739 A.D by Nadir Shah) confirms with the Oxford DIctionary definition of Genocide of Hindus who are and were a national group. From 1000 A.D. to 1525 A.D. the Hindu population decreased by 80 million (op. cit. Konrad Elst, Prof. K.S. Lal), and an estimated 20 million were killed during Mughal Rule. The Muslims were the only invaders who used Taqqiya in war since Taqqiya can be used to spread Islam. Remember Mahmood of Ghazni? He betrayed the forbearance of Prithviraj Chauhan by begging Chauhan to release him, and once he was released he returned with a larger army and captured and defeated Chauhan. Once he captured Chauhan he blinded Chauhan with hot iron rods. How Chauhan craftily killed him is history celebrated by the Hindus.
Nadir Shah made a mountain of hindu skulls he killed in Delhi alone. Babur raised towers of Hindu skulls in 1527, and repeated it when he captured Chanderi fort. Akbar killed 30,000 Rajputs after he captured Chittor in 1568.

Lets forget history.Let us talk verifiable facts.

Please come to the present there have been 15,000 islamic mini dar ul harb invasions since 9/11/2001 (thereligionofpeace.com).

The Rwandan Holocaust happened in 100 days where 800,000 were killed (8000/day). So your figure of killing 6,850/day can be achieved.The figure per day will go much lower if you begin history from Mahmud of Ghazni and will be easier to achieve.

You may want to read ‘Islamic Jihad: A legacy of forced conversion, imperialism and slavery' by M.A. Khan. It is noteworthy to state that M A Khan the historian decided to leave the theology of the PBUH and became an aethist after he witnessed the thirst for blood amongst his 'brothers' and bloodshed that the theology left behind.

YOUR REPLY AWAITED. I HOPE YOU REALISE YOU HAVEN't EVEN TOUCHED THE OTHER POINTS. HOW ABOUT THE MASSACRE OF Banu Qurayza? Do you want to discuss this now?

Sorry Indians !

Sorry Indians !
In this way our nation will be full of 'kasabs'. Maoists, Ulfa, IMs, masscares in (J & K, Gujrat, 1984,1947,1990-92 and many more). But as far as Ajmal Aamir Kasab is concerned, its an international issue and we should give a united answer.
Others are our family matters. These can be solved only when we come to light by getting holistic education, knowing our religions well and by respecting others religion as well. TO BE GOOD AND TO DO GOOD FOR ALL IS ALL ABOUT RELIGION. RELIGION NEVER TEACH US REVENGE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME JUSTICE IS NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN SOCIAL HARMONY.
SINS AND HOLINESS DOESN'T HAVE ANY CASTE/RELIGION. GOOD ARE GOOD AND BAD ARE BAD.
THE ONLY ANSWER TO ALL THESE (SAID)FAMILY MATTERS IS HOLISTIC EDUCATION, EMOTIONAL AND TRADE BONDS BETWEEN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES IN NATION AND MOST IMPORTANT 'LOVE FOR NATION AND ITS RESOURCES INCLUDING HUMAN RESOURCE'.

'WE MAKE TRADITIONS FOR FUTURE, FUTURE IS NOT BOUND TO DO WHAT ARE WE DOING'
SO WE ARE NOT BOUND TO FOLLOW ALL OLD TRADITION. EVERY GENERATION HAS DIFFERENT PROBLEMS TO FACE AND THERE IS NOT A SINGLE FORMULA TO SOLVE PROBLEMS OF ALL GENERATION. THINK RATIONALLY AND LOGICALLY, THEN MAKE NEW TRADITION.

JAI HIND

Forgot the Qasabs who massacred the Hindis

Why has the cartoonist forgotten the massacre of the Hindus? Kashmiri Pundits? Kashmiri Pundit massacre Qasab -V is Yasin Malik. Don't u think?

Indian Soldiers running amok to rape minors

With many many many HATE-FILLED comments SPILLED by "Anonymous Baabu" on TCN platform, I thought it is worthwhile to show a MIRROR-REFLECTION of our Honourable Indian Army's NOTORIOUS ACTION(S), abusing their WARDI (uniform) POWER. Here is a wonderful article, with photos for interested readers.

http://twocircles.net/2010may27/soldiers_run_amok_assam_village_try_rape...

I don't need to emphasize NOR write - the situation is ANY DIFFERENT in KASHMIR valley. I have no IDEA, as to who is behind such actions - INDIAN MILITARY HIGHER OFFICIALS or POLITICIANS or COMBINATION of BOTH (whether Bhajpa or Kaangress) - but I'm positive, "white threaded" 2% "so-called" HIGH-CASTE are involved.

It could be ONE REASON, why the aging OCTOGENARIAN Member of Parliament (famous leader of Rath Yathra Chariot), preferred for walk-out from parliament, when question of "head-count" of Muslim-representation in Indian Army was raised.

Good Luck, wise thinking, happy surfing internet - without HATE-FILLED comment(s) please. Thank you.

An Indian

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If any reader is interested in reading MORE ACHIEVEMENTS of our ARMED FORCES, please click and read this, especially there are some INDECENT photographs which some readers may wish to avoid. Here you go, if you are of legal age:

http://www.fractalenlightenment.com/2009/01/ugly-side-of-indian-army.html

My sincere apologies - if I hurt any reader's feelings. But I am being instigated to write like this, SOLELY due to HATE FILLED invitation-comments by a RSS-Wallah "Anonymous Baabu".

If any reader want's to read SOME MORE ACHIEVEMENTS of our RSS-Wallahs, please click and read this latest ((fresh from the oven)) article:

http://www.countercurrents.org/epw250510.htm

"Anonymous Baabu" enjoy reading, keep dreaming - and don't forget to write back. I am "Indian", I wish to read Indian Articles (shuddh Indian press). Thank you.

Power corrupts

Brother all this is power/war atrocities and is in-significant of religion and caste. Give a reason(brain wash) and mix it with chance and power everyone will do it.

Please consider the victims a person to whom justice was denied; religion doesn't count here.

RECENT arrest in J&K

Arrested people for the recent FAKE ENCOUNTER are Bashir Ahmad, a former J&K special police officer, his accomplice Fayaz Ahmad and Abbas Hussain Shah, a jawan of the territorial army. All KASHMIRI MUSLIMS.

Where is the involvement of "INDIAN MILITARY HIGHER OFFICIALS or POLITICIANS or COMBINATION of BOTH" in the incident.

NEW DIVERSION TACTIC

I gave you an authentic web-link with photos (unadultered and unedited), which are undeniable and irrefutable. You are writing JUST SOMETHING out of your own FANTACY / ILLUSION.

If you read SOMETHING / SOMEWHERE, it could be miniscule, COMPARED to Indian Army's ABUSES. Anyhow thank you for SPILLING your USUAL lies. Readers on TCN platform KNOW PRETTY WELL about AUTHENTICITY of your comment(s).

An Indian

It is the Jan Sanghis !!!

Sorry "Anonymous Baabu"

It's not Yasin Malik but the Jan Sanghis and Uniformed Indian Army personnel, imposting as Yasin Malik's gang - who did majority of the atrocities in Kashmir Valley. Do you want to read about HONOURABLE ACHIEVEMENTS of our Indian Army? Read this:

http://www.fractalenlightenment.com/2009/01/ugly-side-of-indian-army.htm....

Did you forget during Mumbai 26/11 - court martial proceedings of Srikant Prasad Purohit (PRO-HIT) was to take place in Mumbai? We know Sangh Parivar provded COVER and PRETEXT to lodge Mumbai 26/11 with "hand-in-glove" collaboration with LeT. It's well known Sangh Parivar goons eliminated ATS Chief Hemant Karkare, Vijay Salaskar, and Ashok Kamte. If in any doubt, ask their families or three widows, especially Kavita Karkare who "slammed the door" and refused One-Crore Rupees BRIBE from Naari-Hatyakaari Gujarati Baabu.

Oops, I forgot about the CLASSIC SUPARI-STYLE elimination of Advocate Shahid Azmi from heart of Mumbai. Everyone knows who benefited from this young and budding advocate's "silent elimination" - even if Sangh Parivar tries to HIDE their SHAMELESS CRIMINAL BEHAVIOUR.

And if you want some more UNADULTERED / AUTHENTIC web-links, I will be pleased to post in my next posting, if you ask for. Thank you.

An Indian

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Look again thoroughly - there are thousands of Sangh Parivar goons hiding behind Kasab-II, III, and IV - on rear side of podium in the cartoon.

Ha ha ha

I can't believe this comment.

Kashmiri Pundits were driven out by the INDIAN ARMY.

Then you will say

9/11 was done by the Israeli Jews.
Madrid bombings were done by Spanish agents
Ben Quraiyza happened because the Jews broke the pact.
Bali bombings were done by the CIA
The Taliban are true muslims
Osama bin Laden became a terrorist because of the CIA.
Indian Army soldiers only come to rape civilians.
The Mughals never killed 100 million hindus. The Mughal era was a golden era.

Of course you can blame the entire world except yourself. Qasab is as innocent as hatyaari Narendra Modi. So if Narendra Modi is walking free even Qasab should walk free. Yasin Malik never did anything, he is falsely framed.

Your logic is absolutely correct here.

Lastly I thank twocircles.net for allowing me to air my views. Generally I have noticed Muslim websites block any Qaffir material.

100 million waaley - wake up !!!

"Anonymous Baabu" - wake-up !!! Here is the enlightenment OR eye-opener.

You say, and I

Quote: 100 million Hindus killed by Mughals. Unquote:
Your comment of 28 May 2010 - 1:36am.

To start with, first:

Literal meaning of GENOCIDE as per Oxford Dictionary is:

"the systematic killing of all the people from a national, ethnic, or religious group"

Second:
A million has SIX ZEROS (Mr. Chekkay). And you say 100 Million. That means 100 followed by six zeros. And that figure is 100,000,000

Third:
Mughals ruled India for approximately 400 years, plus OR minus. There are 365 days in a year. Multiply 400 by 365 = 146,000 days

Fourth:
To eliminate 100 Million Hindus - every day there should be elimination of 6,850 persons PER DAY. Yep, Anonymous Baabu - there should be killing OR elimination of six thousand eight hundred fifty PER DAY.

Fifth:
Were Hindus, Indians, and the world SLEEPING when 6,850 persons were killed PER DAY ???

Jhootey loogon key saath rahoogey - to jhooth hi sunoogey, aur jhooth hi boologey. Aakhri mein, jhooth (lies) kaa hi prachaar karoogey - jhooth kaa hi sahaara loogey !!!

Lastly, RECENT killing of LESS THAN 1 (ONE) million Rwandans in Africa created an uproar in the world - and U.N. had to intervene to STOP the KILLING.

And you speak of 100 Million Killed ???

Wake up and STOP your JHOOTHA PRACHAAR to justify your INJUSTICE(S).

Lastly, don't forget to NAIL DOWN the meaning of GENOCIDE in your DUMB-HEAD.

Thank you.

An Indian

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100 Million could be SHEEP (Bakrey) for SLAUGHTERING and CONSUMPTION. That is possible, as Mughals loved, enjoyed, and invented MUGHLAI CUISINE or FOOD - which is FAMOUS TODATE - WORLDWIDE. Ha Ha Ha !!! Ha Ha Ha !!! Satyamey Vijaytey.

Neither as breaking news on TV

"RECENT killing of LESS THAN 1 (ONE) million Rwandans in Africa created an uproar in the world - and U.N. had to intervene to STOP the KILLING"

Thank god you didn't say that such atrocities did NOT appear as BREAKING NEWS on TV. Just shows your intellectual capability and the reason why reservation is being demanded by MUSLIMS. They are so stupid that they can NOT compete on even terms with HINDUS.

hahah/Muslim conspiracy theories

Yes, many believe that. In fact, Hamid Gul, ex chief of Pakistani ISI (heard about that group??) maintains that 9/11 was an inside Americamn/Jewish job!
They also maintain that the latest atttempt to bomb New York (by this Pakistani Muslim) is another story.

For Muslims, what is ahppening in PAkistan is a story.. Arrests of Madani and boys from Kannur is a story.

Muslims , either grt along with the program, or leave the country to their favorite sdestination, may eb afghanistan

HIGH-CASTE obfuscation / diversionary TACTICS

Raju Kurien / "Anonymous Baabu"

Keep your DIVERSIONARY / OBFUSCATION tactics to yourself. Try some new METHODS, if possible. Readers on TCN platform and across India, even in forests have become wise, and have taken LAW into their OWN-HANDS - being disgusted from Sangh Parivaar AGE-OLD METHODS.

Q) Is any common-man gaining either from GOI or Sangh Parivaar tactics ?
A) Absolute NO

Q) Are GOI or Sangh Parivaar working for benefit of common Indian citizen ?
A) Absolute NO

Q) Has GOI or Sangh Parivaar launched OPERATION GREEN HUNT using their own funds ?
A) Absolute NO

Q) Has GOI or Sangh Parivaar lost in anyway from OPERATION GREEN HUNT ?
A) Absolute NO

Q) Will GOI and Sangh Parivaar benefit from "SUCCESSFUL" elimination of Maoists?
A) Absolute YES

Now, it is for readers on TCN platform or common Indians to decide, whether they accept your position OR not.

Good Luck!

An Indian

This is the ungrateful man talking

I could prove to you MOST (not all) Muslims in India are ungrateful to what India gives them. I could understand a Muslim could hate the RSS, but I don't understand how could a Muslim hate the GOI.

The GOI has provided Hajj subsidy to Muslims.
The GOI has given Article 370 to Muslim Kashmir.
The GOI has given J&K Quota seats to MUSLIM Kashmiris in every course of every college in India. There is one quota seat for every 60 seats.
The GOI has allowed Muslims to marry 4 women without divorcing. Of course the actors and politicians who are hindus and exploit this loophole are another issue.
That Sanya Mirza and Shoaib Malik married in India because India's Shariah laws are more liberal than that of Pakistan! Shoaib had a first wife and in India he does not have to take her permission to marry Sania. But in Pakistan a permission is needed.

RSS has launched Op. Green Hunt? - NO
GOI has stolen/borrowed funds to launch Op. Green Hunt? - NO
Will GOI and RSS benefit from a successful elimination of Maoists? - YES. Even Muslims will benefit! Remember what the CPI Maoists did to the Muslim women in Nandigram? Who raped whom?

Please prove me wrong here, these are publicly verifiable facts.

Is criticism sole right of opposition party?

"Anonymous" Baabu - commenting on 31 May 2010 - 1:22am.

My question to "Anonymous" Baabu - is OPPOSING "GOI" policies the SOLE RIGHT of OPPOSITION PARTIES?

Don't the INDIAN CITIZENS have a RIGHT to CRITICIZE or OPPOSE "GOI" policies - if it's wrong?

How many times SHALL I TELL YOU - STOP COMMENTING with your FOOT-THUMB in YOUR MOUTH?

An Indian

NOBEL Prize Committee

Thank you Mr. Raju Kurien, "Anonymous Baabu" for EXCELLING in DIVERSIONARY TACTICS. NOBEL Prize Commitee need to add a new category / subject for: DIVERSION / OBFUSCATION / POLITICAL MANIPULATION / RELIGIOUS CHAUVINISM / RIOTS / MOB-VIOLENCE.

I am sure Sangh Parivar OR their supporters will NO-DOUBT win this PRIZE - year-after-year, and every year; and "that too" UNOPPOSED. And surely, the NOBEL Prize Selection / Awarding committee, will have NO DIFFICULTY in FINDING a DESERVING and FULLY-QUALIFYING candidate(s) in Indian sub-continent.

I am writing and seeking answers about Mumbai 26/11, and "behind-the-screen" elimination / killing of ATS Chief Hemant Karkare, Vijay Salaskar, and Ashok Kamte - especially:

a) who gave death threats to Hemant Karkare days, weeks, months before his UNTIMELY DEATH

b) who benefited from his UNTIMELY DEATH

c) who called him "desh-drohi" days, weeks, months before Hemant Karkare's death and made U-turn in by calling him a MARTYR, HONEST, all those eulogy TERMS / WORDS.

d) who offered Kavita Karkare ONE-CRORE Rupees after killing her husband?

e) who absconded (or diluted) in bye-lanes of Cama Hospital after KILLING and ENSURING Hemant Karkare

f) which bullets / pistols were used in killing - as the ones used by "so-called" outside terrorists were latest weaponry AK-47 and the like. How and from where the OUTSIDE TERRORISTS got hold of Mumbai Police ammunition???

And you are CLEVERLY DIVERTING with your EXPERT TACTICS of DIVERSION. Please stay on-course. Thank you.

An Indian

Nobel; comittee/Indian

@Indian

Even in that category looks like that Muslims will not win a Nobel prize!!!!

2 billion Muslism/Arabs and tell me, why are Msulims not winning Nobels? Well, must be the discriminatory worldview/nobel committee view of Muslism.

Will u get a life and make ur people progress?

That's RESERVED for anyone in 2% category

Raju Kurien !

Touba Touba - Muslims can never compete in that NOBEL PRIZE CATEGORY. There is no QUESTION of WINNING - when they don't QUALIFY.

That NOBEL PRIZE (for spreading LIES) is RESERVED for 2% CATEGORY - Raju Kurien. Good Luck and thank you for your comment.

An Indian

Raju Kurien and "Anonymous" forgot OR maynot have

I believe Raju Kurien, "Anonymous Baabu" and all Sangh-Parivaar supporters are EITHER UNAWARE or WILLINGLY / WANTEDLY trying to ignore many facts. I'm NOT a believer of conspiracy theories, but when government's assume their subjects are naive, those theories DO MAKE a LOT OF SENSE.

I will endeavour to highlight a few of those facts, which remained unanswered:

a) Hamid Gul, ex chief of ISI undertook training and worked closely with U.S. Secret Service Agencies. In his first telephone interview, while the 9/11 was being telecast live worldwide, a reporter questioned Hamid Gul's view to which he replied: Where are U.S. Secret Service Agencies? And then he continued, if U.S. SPY Satellites can catch a small "PEPSI-CAN" anywhere on the globe, how come they are unaware of what's happening in their own backyard?

b) President Husni Mubarak - a retired Egyptian Airforce Pilot, said on record during a TV interview in U.S. And President Husni Mubarak said on record:

I watched the repeated telecast of two commercial jetliners hitting WTC. I'm a retired Airforce Pilot of 25-year experience, but I wonder about the "efficiency and experience" of those Pilots who crashed COMMERCIAL-JETLINERS fully-loaded with passengers, cargo, and JET-FUEL with laser-sharp ACCURACY into twin-towers. I cannot make a maneuver piloting a SMALL 2-seater AIRFORCE LIGHT-WEIGHT AIRCRAFT which is designed for "dog-fight". At this point, the interviewer or TV directors "UNPLUGGED" the program, and there was BLACK-OUT of PROGRAM for a few seconds, only to be continued on a totally different subject.

c) U.S. Government revealed a FAKED / DOCTORED video-clip of the most wanted terrorist ACCEPTING RESPONSIBILITY. But the video was immediately taken-off TV when FAULT on part of those responsible was DETECTED.

d) Now, here is a latest EVIDENCE of "EVIDENCE FUDGING" (or DISTRACTING) as I may say, by those responsible for those attacks. Please click and read, view photos, get some comfort, and think OR engage your reasoning-power (gifted by Ooperwaala to anyone - regardless of his/her caste, creed, religion, race):

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34894217

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/19/gaspar-llamazares-spaniar_n_428...

The above (two web-links) maybe useful for many of our Indian insider "imposters" to learn, and maybe clone for their future plans.

An Indian

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I have many many many evidence in my pandora-box and would like to give to those interested. Mr. Raju Kurien, "Anonymous Baabu", and others - please don't try to MUDDY clear-waters. Thank you.

BELIEVE IT or NOT - Prove it's WRONG !!!

"Anonymous Baabu", I can prove you WRONG any NUMBER of TIMES - because you DWELL-ON, and ALWAYS try to SPILL / SPREAD LIES.

Instead of DIVERTING (your USUAL tactics), try and prove, whatever I wrote is WRONG.

I am an "Indian" and wish to willingly ACCEPT and HONOUR, if you write about any JUSTIFIABLE HAPPENINGS, inside India.

I hope, you, AND readers know pretty well: TWO wrongs DO-NOT equal ONE RIGHT. It's that simple.

Thank you.

An Indian

"An Indian" must abstain from spreading lies

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Mr FALSE INDIAN, Purohit can not be Court Marshaled for the offenses he is charged with as the co-conspirators are NOT from Army and the alleged victims are also not from ARMY. Don't spread TAAQUIA on issues which will make you "butt of ridicule". In a form like TCN dominated by your comments ( as pointed out earlier 7/10 comments were by you on a specific day) and where you are protected by TCN by editing out comments challenging your claims, you may get away by repeatedly stating your TAAQUIA but for rest of the country you will remain a "FROG in the well". CROCK CROCK - this is what happened- if in doubt read retired IPS Muslims book. Rest agree- Crock crock - An Indian is great.

You are again WRONG

Sorry "Anonymous Baabu"

You are ABSOLUTELY WRONG. And this is not the FIRST TIME, you have perpetually been SPREADING and SUPPORTING LIES.

Check with any LAWYER, ADVOCATE, a practicing Indian ATTORNEY, in liaison with ARMED FORCES Knowledgeable Person. They will give you some WISE words of WISDOM, clarifying your DOUBT(s) or ILLUSION about COURT MARTIAL procedures.

After verifying above facts, you need to TAKE-BACK your WORDS, or TENDER an APOLOGY for your willful, wanton, malicious MISCHIEF in TARNISHING my IMPECCABLE IMAGE.

An Indian

Can always be PROVED WRONG !!!

As "Anonymous Baabu" lives-on, and spreads LIES, I can always prove him WRONG.

"Anonymous Baabu", court-martial proceedings is for any of the three ARMED FORCES i.e. Army, Air-force, Navy - whenever they are involved in violation of their rules. COURT-MARTIAL is APPLICABLE - even if a staff VIOLATES EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT - not NECESSARY a civil crime.

If any staff, from any of these three UNIFORMED FORCES are found to be in violation of their CODE-OF-CONDUCT or RULES, they can be COURT-MARTIALED, instead of a case being lodged in a CIVILIAN COURT. Please VERIFY this BASIC DIFFERENCE from "any informed" UNIFORMED FORCES or LEARNED ADVOCATE(s), ATTORNEYS, PRACTICING LAWYERS in India - maybe RAM JETHMALANI; but he charges Crores for even small consultancy.

You won't find COURT-MARTIAL procedures in any VEDAS / PURANAAS or Taaqia. It is from LAWS / GUIDING PRINCIPLES of INDIAN ARMED FORCES. And there is NO NEED for a co-conspirator(s) to be from UNIFORMED FORCES.

Ha Ha Ha !!! I can always PROVE you WRONG, because you live-on SPREADING LIES. "Satyamey Vijaytey" !!!

An Indian

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A new word is SEAL combining all three forces' expertise. If you are unaware, full-form of SEAL is: Sea, Air, and Land i.e. NAVY, AIR-FORCE, and ARMY.

Thank you.

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