Creativity as resistance, an interview with Rafa Al-Nasiri

By Martina Sabra, CGNews,

Rafa Al-Nasiri is one of the best-known contemporary Iraqi artists on the international stage. His work is deeply influenced by the culture of Arabic script, and also by his intensive encounters with artists in China and Europe. Martina Sabra interviewed the artist at his home in Amman, Jordan.


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Arabic script occupies an outstanding position in contemporary Arabic art, and also in your own work. Does calligraphy play a similar role in Chinese art?

Al-Nasiri: I’d go even further than that. Comparing Western, Arabic and Chinese art, I find Chinese calligraphy the most expressive. Western artists draw the word – it is more a question of the correct application of the craft than expressing an idea. The Arabs are similar – they idolise beauty, but they are ultimately also craftsmen. Chinese calligraphers, in contrast, are free. When they put the ink on paper, their whole bodies go along with it, even their breathing. The link between the hand and the spirit, between the hand and the soul, is a key element of Chinese art theory.

What can we learn from China in artistic and intellectual terms?

Al-Nasiri: I think we can learn a great deal. Chinese philosophy propagates balance and harmony: the unison of the individual with himself and his environment. This way of thinking can help us to develop and become more creative. And Chinese society is going through many changes: when I was a student in Peking almost fifty years ago there were strict boundaries that one wasn’t allowed to cross. Now, Chinese art outshines everything else in the Far East, in terms of both content and sales.

Let’s talk about your creative development as a painter and artist. As a young artist, your work was strictly figurative. Why and when did you make the leap to abstract painting and graphic art? And what fascinates you about acrylic as a material?

Al-Nasiri: In my last year in China, I had a teacher and tutor who pursued entirely modern ideas in the middle of a communist environment. The Chinese regime insisted on realistic painting – but my teacher secretly painted abstract pieces. That encouraged me to become more and more abstract myself, to free myself from figurative work. Later, during my two-year stay in Portugal, I then started to follow the new Western art movements. Modernism caught up with me – with Mao, mini skirts and long hair. The main reason I came to use acrylic was because I was allergic to the smell of oil paints. But the material suits me as an artist as well. It is fluid, you have to work quickly with it. That encourages personal expression.

Have you been influenced by German artists or German art?

Al-Nasiri: You might not believe me, but I was in Germany as long ago as 1965. We were driving through 24 countries by car from Baghdad at the time, over two months. We stopped off in Hamburg, Frankfurt and Munich. It was a great time. But German artists have actually influenced me more that that journey. Otto Eglau was very important for me. I was his assistant in Salzburg in 1964 and 1965. I’m still in touch with his family. And then of course Käthe Kollwitz. She is the most important graphic artist of all time for me. Naturally, we studied Dürer and Rembrandt at art school in Iraq. But Käthe Kollwitz was the guiding principle for us.

Your most recent exhibition in Kuwait at the end of 2007 was entitled “Light from Darkness”. Is that a reference to Iraq?

Al-Nasiri: Yes. There is a deadly darkness at the moment. Perhaps art can bring light into this darkness. As artists, we only have one means to offer resistance in this tragedy, and that is our creativity. Even if we are surrounded by death and horror, we can put these experiences into our art, and try to find an expression for the suffering. Using art to help strengthen the Iraqi identity, to give our best, to stay on the international level – that is the only true resistance for me.

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* Martina Sabra is a freelance journalist based in Germany. This abridged article is distributed by the Common Ground News Service (CGNews) and can be accessed at www.commongroundnews.org. The full text can be found at www.qantara.de.

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